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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Sun 20-Jul-08 14:22:14
OK girls - time to get positive now on a brand new thread for the summer!!! grin

bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Mon 21-Jul-08 21:35:48
Great idea bb, look forward to being involved, i have decided to be more positive how long it lasts i dont know but im in
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Mon 21-Jul-08 21:37:16
Good for you mumtoo3 - cos it is only fear... not life threatening or anything!!!

<<I know that is easy to say!!!>>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Mon 21-Jul-08 22:22:56
Now there's an idea, BB!

As I have mentioned, I am trying to be more positive, but find it all too easy to become anxious and gloomy about this phobia, so it will be interesting to see how this works!

Maybe this will be the emet thread for positive thinking, and the other thread can be for "aaaaargh, I have yet another irrational worry that means I can never go to a branch of Debenhams again as long as I live"?!

I was struck on the other thread by the very sensible comment that we spend years of our lives worrying about literally days of sickness. That does act as a kind of reminder to keep this in proportion...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Tue 22-Jul-08 14:34:15
Hey, what a great thread bb..i'm all for positive thinking, it definitley helps. I agree with Dot though, it's all too easy to get down about this phobia.

Thanks for starting this thread bb! xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By annoyingdevil on Tue 22-Jul-08 14:45:50
I think it's a fab idea to have a 'positive thoughts' thread. Perhaps we can keep the other one open for our 'irrational, negative musings' At the moment, I am clinging on to the fact that 'V' bugs are pretty minor and short-lived. Your DC will 'V' a few times - most of it will be water (except the first). WE CAN AND WILL COPE. THE REALITY IS NEVER AS BAD AS THE EXPECTATION
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Thu 24-Jul-08 22:14:44
Had my last session today girls!!! Think I am cured!!!!
bbxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Califrau on Thu 24-Jul-08 22:19:56
I didn't make a single appearance on teh other thread cos I knew it would be a fear feeding downer. This one has a much better title!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Califrau on Thu 24-Jul-08 22:21:48
hurrah Bun! I really hope you are.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Niecie on Thu 24-Jul-08 22:27:58
I posted on the other thread in the early days but like Califrau, I found it was winding me up rather than helping me look at things positively. Comparing encounters with the dreaded v got a bit much for me and I had to leave it. This might be a much idea.

How long did your course of treatment take BB? Do you know for sure that you are cured or are you waiting to be 'tested' by RL events before you know for sure?

Great to hear of somebody who is finding a way of dealing with it. Well done.smile
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Fri 25-Jul-08 09:03:48
I know what you mean about the fear feeding and I tried (where I could) to inject some positive into that previous thread but I think that people with this phobia often need a place to let it all out without people thinking they are complete nutters!! That thread served that purpose but I need another way through this now so I hope this thread will take another route.

I have had 16 sessions of CBT, Niecie (over 3 months) - about half focussing on emet and the others on health anxiety. It has been amazing (and I didn't have to v as part of my therapy Califrau wink). I now have a 'script' for what to do when I am challenged, particularly if dd gets a bug. She will get one one day soon. I may too but I may not. CHances are that at some stage when I have small kids I will come onto very close contact with one. It will be terrifying but the choice is mine as to how I move on with this. I will meet up with the therapist again in the autumn for a follow up meeting before I am discharged - she wants us to go on a rough ferry ride together. JOY - can't wait grin!

We will see - but it takes up far less of my time now. I am much calmer and if dd wakes at night I don't get that 'OMG what if she's...' thought as I walk into her room.

Hold strong girls!

bbxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Tatties on Fri 25-Jul-08 09:27:48
I will check in here too (was also too scared to look at the other one!)

BB you sound great, the CBT seems to have been very thorough, and it has clearly had a very positive outcome for you!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Niecie on Fri 25-Jul-08 16:16:58
The words 'rough ferry ride' have started a chain of thoughts now!

Perhaps I should get me some therapy pronto!

Again, well done BB.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 25-Jul-08 19:14:47
well done BB, thats great news, i have my initial assessment on 13th august, but they said it may take a while for cbt to start, but at least i am on the right track
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By DumbledoresGirl on Fri 25-Jul-08 19:26:22
Would like to add my support here as a fellow sufferer. I used to periodically read the other thread but I never posted on it because, well, not to be mean ladies, but I do enough worrying by myself without wanting to share other people's worries. I hope that does not sound rude.

While I am here..... dh went on a course (for work) the other week. Lots of psychological exercises. One of the people running the course is a therapist living nearish us and dh told her about his emetophobic wife. She recommended NLP (which dh has wanted me to do for ages now) and she has since got in contact with dh to give him a list of suitable practitioners working relatively near us. Dh wants me to contact one and start therapy. No way do I want to do this, but it seems such a negative response for me to have. I know everyone will say "go for it" and I really don't want to so I don't know why I have posted this, but if I can't mention it to fellow sufferers, who else can I mention it to?!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Fri 25-Jul-08 20:16:02
Mumtoo3 - great news!!! Well done for taking that first step. I was told 6 mths but it only took 3 in the end.

Hi there DDG - only you will know if and when you are ready to do something about this, if ever. It HAS to be your decision. Quick question though - why are you so anti? {{}}

bb xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By DumbledoresGirl on Sat 26-Jul-08 10:01:17
No offence to you or anyone else, but I do not believe in a cure, not for me anyway.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Sat 26-Jul-08 10:06:05
No offence taken AT ALL - just wish you could find some relief from the endless cycle of checking, scanning, panicking and avoiding, that's all. Who knows if I am 'cured' or not. Life is easier at the moment though and I hope it will continue to be so, for future pregnancies, for dd for all of us really.

I certainly think the first step to a cure is believing in it anyway, so your dh is wrong to push you when you don't believe in it.

Take care.

bbxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Sat 26-Jul-08 11:56:03
Of course it could be said that you have nothing to lose by giving it a go, as it is not going to work anyway wink smile.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By DumbledoresGirl on Sat 26-Jul-08 19:29:23
Totally agree with everything you say BB. From reading the other thread, I know I am not as badly affected by some situations as some other emetophobes are, but that is just making excuses isn't it? Me trying to pretend I am not "bad" enough to need treatment.

There would not be any money for treatment right now, so I do have another excuse.

I think it is a huge leap of faith going in to any one of these therapies. For me, I just see endless sessions confronting something I would rather not confront, with no gain at the end.

I am delighted that you feel so much happier and positive about the whole thing BB, but personally I would think I was cured until I had endured an "episode". Dh agrees with you though, that just to feel better in between times (which you have certainly achieved) is worth attaining.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By DumbledoresGirl on Sat 26-Jul-08 19:30:37
that should say "personally I would not think I was cured until....."
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Sat 26-Jul-08 20:53:46
Hi everyone!

bb - you sound fantastic, you give us all hope! I can't believe the difference in you, it's great!

As you've said you did try to inject positive stuff on the other thread, which i for one found a massive help. You do inspire me. I really hope that one day i can face the therapy and get my life back. I am so very pleased for you. xxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Sat 26-Jul-08 21:36:36
Thank you wiggleit! I'm so so glad it helped. I admit I did find that other thread a bit frustrating at times - I don't have all the answers by any means but have thrown myself into this head first and don't really have an alternative! I have to believe in it.

But I also know full well how important it is to be able to let it all out when you are feeling anxious. Non-emets do not understand - I am beginning to recognise just how different our way of thinking is and I'm not surprised dh thought I was a nutter grin. It will take a long time for me to break out of that habit and for him to see me differently!

DDG - completely with you on the 'enduring an episode' thing. We have rehearsed it in session but it will be terrifying in real life. That will be the crunch as to whether or not the therapy has really 'cured' me.

bbxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Fri 01-Aug-08 19:54:24
All very quiet on these threads. Hope all ok with everyone!

bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 01-Aug-08 21:36:22
Hi bb,

how have you been? i have been checking in but i suppose no news is good news wink

mt3 x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By misspollysdolly on Sat 02-Aug-08 23:52:38
Can I join this thread...?

Would appreciate having some people as barmy as I am around me - especially as we approach the new school year/winter (you know, as in '...vomiting virus'?!). There will be point between now and, say, October half term, where I may well totally melt down thinking, oh God, the vomit is coming! The walls are closing in and one of us, if not all of us going to get it AARRGGHH AARRGGHH AARRGGHH! Do you know what I mean?

I'd love to be able to touch base with other people who really 'get' what this phobia does to you...

Thanks - and for anyone who read my 'health' threadm earlier, so far the night has passed peacefully...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Sun 03-Aug-08 21:01:25
Hi everyone! Tis quiet on here but usually that is a good sign!

Welcome misspollysdolly---How are things with you? i haven't read your health thread.. what was that, i'll read it?
Hope all is well with you.

Hi bb! Miss you! How's things with you hun? xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By misspollysdolly on Sun 03-Aug-08 23:31:39
Thank you for letting me come and play...! Will be good to feel supported by people 'in the know'.

If you have read my Health post and were wondering, everyone here seems fine after DS's vom incident yesterday. Found myself stressing a bit about it tonight - felt a bit iffy - but it has now passed am I feel calmer. DS is fine - no idea what his big V was all about yesterday - just something he does occasionally - but boy I wish he wouldn't!!

However, it is proving to be an important reminder to me that my kids are only human - having adopted a DD who is rarely ever ill and too totally non-sicky babies I was allowing myself to live completely in denial that somehow I would never have to deal with the emetophobia in relation to my kids as they were clearly never going to be sick...! Well, now I'm learning ever so slowly that life(with kids)'s not like that.

Have you all heard of the book about Emetophobia by someone called Nicolette Harris?? It's v good - I would recommend it if only gain reassurance or to hand to family/friends/DPs to read.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Mon 04-Aug-08 09:03:26
Hi MissPolly!!! Glad your ds is better and that the rest are ok too - quite possible that you feeling iffy was panic, no?

My dd rarely v's also [touch wood emoticon] - in fact not since Feb '07 and she is only 2.9... but I know that it really is only a matter of time and that it is quite possible that I will get something from her.

I try to think along the 'OK, what will I do if...' plan of action sort of line rather than the 'OMG I hope I don't get it... I will never be able to cope' sort of line. Does that make sense? It is not at all easy and I still await a bit test following my CBT!!

Off on hols on Friday for a couple of weeks. Can't wait to get away and enjoy some fresh air in the hills.

Hope everyone else is ok.

<<Hi wiggleit!!>>

bb xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Mon 04-Aug-08 12:55:22
Hi all,

welcome miss polly

hope you enjoy your holiday bb.

i have my meeting with the consultant on 13th aug, about getting help with this, but not sure what they will suggest yet.

is everyone enjoying our lovely summer!!!! mine want to just go in the garden and play they hate being stuck indoors

i saw a friend this morning and she said her and her kids all have 'd', but i am trying to stay calm because i did not go in to her house, and i did not pick anything up or touch anything, and she said they were at a bbq yesterday and its all of them! so i am trying to be calm (big deep breathes just typing this)
X
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Mon 04-Aug-08 21:20:40
Hi everyone <<waves and blows a kiss to bb>>

How are you all on here?

mt3- It sounds like your friends kids are suffering from something they'd ate at the bbq, try not to panic too much. My DD has d again..she's been like it on and off for months now, trying to find out if it's some sort of food intolerance.She's just been again! Mare! I have to hold my breath while i wipe her bottom and then bleach everything in the bathroom!

Misspolly - how's things with you? I hope you are all ok.xx

bb - have a fab hol babes. Get in touch when you get back hun! xx

Hi to everyone else! <<waves>> xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By misspollysdolly on Mon 04-Aug-08 21:34:54
Thanks for asking...we all seem to be fine today. Am feeling good for having coped so well this time. smile
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Tue 05-Aug-08 10:44:45
thanks

misspolly - glad things are okay, you should be proud how well you coped

wiggleit - my older 2 both were milk intolerant as babies, dd1 had the most fowl smelling toxic nappies going, with awful colic, but she grew out of it by abour 4 but she still does not like milk. my ds is 2.5yrs and is still milk intolerant and we know when hes had it lets say wink. Intolerances are very hard to work out and they do a 7 year cycle, its a process of elimination and work from the most obvious down.

bb - enjoy yours hols
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Tue 05-Aug-08 21:49:16
I've been really interested to read this thread, and to hear from other emets who weren't keen on the other one!

As I've said before, I'm so full of admiration for BB. I've thought about this a lot, and presumably there does just come a point when you realise that you have to do something about this phobia. I occasionally think it's time for me to seek help, but then find excuses not to do it. I am just hoping that, one day, the moment will come for me!

BB: "I am much calmer and if dd wakes at night I don't get that 'OMG what if she's...' thought as I walk into her room." I would give anything to feel that way - but in that case, why don't I do something about it?

I suppose I'm partly afraid of DH thinking I'm even more of a nut than he already thinks I am grin; I'm also embarrassed about appearing silly in front of the GP; I also can't see how I could fit therapy sessions in with looking after the children. I am also very scared that I'd potentially pay a lot of money for something that made no difference. But those all sound like excuses when I write them down!

I really do hope I find the strength to tackle this. BB does give me hope that it's possible, and that therapy of whatever sort can work!

I personally find the other thread very useful as it's my only opportunity to fret and flap without feeling ashamed/silly, but I shall be following this one with great interest as well (and I shall keep it positive if I write anything!)
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Wed 06-Aug-08 11:16:12
Right - need your support now girls!!
Because of cost and my 'completing my therapy'.... We are going to take the ferry over this year and not the shuttle. shock It will save us £160. Aaaaagh!

I know it will be fine and I have never been sea sick before but this is a really big test. Weather forecast for Frday is ok but I have no way of knowning what it will be like to come back in 2 weeks time.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Wed 06-Aug-08 14:26:48
bb - breathe, it is not like being on a cruise, dover - calais is only 1hr 20 ish, i use to take joyriders before going on the ferry just in case and they really help, i know i am an adult but you can still take them, give them to the kids as well wink, were in august i know it does not feel like it now but its not like january with all the cross winds, it should be calmer this time of year not much help i know i am sorry x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Wed 06-Aug-08 15:58:28
Hi everyone!

bb - you have come such a long way, listen at you going on a ferry!!!!! I wouldn't even consider it an option!Like mt3 i'm sure if you went to the chemist and got something to take for you and the lo then that should help just in case there is a rough sea. Go girl! I'm so proud of you and full of admiration! smile xxxx

Dot - Hi, glad to hear you survived your trip to France! This thread is good, but i agree with you that i get something out of the other thread too coz you can go on there and not feel embarrassed or stupid about how we deal with certain things. I'll keep checking on both.

Hi to everyone else <<waves>> xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Wed 06-Aug-08 16:10:50
BB: you will be fine. You have never been seasick before so there's no reason why you should start now; this is the best possible time of year to go on a ferry from a 'rough seas' point of view; it's only a short trip and will be over before you know it.

You are doing so, so well - I wouldn't even contemplate ferries - so put your bravest face on and go for it. *You will be fine*. Remember that the vast majority of people are absolutely fine on ferries. I went on a ferry with ex-bf (who did get quite badly travel sick), and even he managed a four-hour crossing in August without any mishaps.

Well done you for agreeing to it!!!

xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Thu 07-Aug-08 10:51:59
Well the tickets are booked, so send some calm seas vibes in the channel direction at 9.15 tomorrow morning. I have fallen back into the reassurance seeking by scanning the met office website blush which is not good for me.

Anyway - the forecast for the moment (but will keep being updated over today and overnight) is that there will be slight to moderate seas - they are expecting some rain between 10 and 1pm which will bring some stronger gusts of wind but from what I can see the wind will be around force 3/4 when weather is clear (but occasionally 6 shock).

I am TERRIFIED!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Thu 07-Aug-08 12:03:20
bb - please dont worry, when was the last time you went on a ferry? what are exactly worried about? sorry if i sound blunt, blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Thu 07-Aug-08 13:45:09
bb - sending you loads of calm sea vibes hun! And even more anti-v vibes!!! grin

I'm sure you will be fine, like other people have said if you haven't been seasick before there's no reason why you should start now. It's a bit like travel sickness in cars or buses isn't it, you either get sick or you don't.

I do appreciate where you are coming from though hun and will be thinking of you on your journey tomorrow.

I have never travelled overseas so don't know what i would be like. I know when i first went on a plane i was worried about that but i was fine, even through some turbulance when DD was saying 'my tummy feels funny, i feel sick!' shock

I don't think i would ever be brave enough to go on water. That does scare me. Good on you for even considering it! wink

Hi to everyone!! xx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ladystardust on Thu 07-Aug-08 15:09:50
Hey bb - hope you have good holiday.
I would definitely take travel pill and give them to all the family aswell.
On a ferry I always sit outside, away from the engine - even if it's cold and windy and try not to move!
Someone told me sitting on newspaper helps (don't ask me why) - also sitting with crossed legs.
That may be old wive's tales but the crossed legs thing actually does help dizziness and nausea.

I'm sure you'll be fine with enough drugs!

Good luck.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Thu 07-Aug-08 15:16:39
BB - I'm sending all possible calm-sea vibes your way!!

Remember that checking the forecast won't make any difference to your experience (easy for me to say - I'd never even step foot on a boat!!). The weather will be as it will be, and you will deal with it just fine.

I don't think I'd go for drugs personally(too afraid of being sick to take any drugs, even anti-emets!!! How hopeless is that?!), but you do whatever you need to do to make the situation bearable, and to feel that you are in control of it rather than it being in control of you. Remember that you are a very strong person, and you will not be defeated by a poxy ferry!!!

I shall be thinking of you, and have everything crossed for you!

xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Thu 07-Aug-08 20:04:07
Dot - you are a bit hopeless really aren't you when it comes to drugs??grin (i rely on my anti-emets!)

Personally i would take the drugs just as a prevention. At least if you do start to feel a bit queasy you'll already have something in your system and it won't take so long for something to work.

I've heard it said too that you should sit in the middle of the boat coz you will feel the least motion there..????Don't know but i would try anything if it was me travelling!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By nicand2 on Thu 07-Aug-08 20:53:15
Can I join this thread too?

I've had this phobia for ages at varying levels, it almost dissapered about 6 years ago but at the moment it seems to be getting a grip again. Misspollysdolly - I know EXACTLY what you mean about the walls closing in etc!

Anyway I've had enough of it, it's ruled my life for long enough so I've contacted a hypnotherpist who has experience of dealing with this and I'm just waiting for pay day to start treatment. I am almost certain mine is a learnt behaviour and apparantly the success rates of hypnotherapy are really good in re training your brain not to be irrational about it.

I think the worst of it is I have actually experienced life when I had control of this phobia and life with me or 'it' in control is so vastly different I am determined not to let it get a grip again (difficult some days) ...fingers crossed.

BB I did a ferry last year and was really worried but it was fine and you will be fine. When you have a scarry thought tell your brain 'thank you for that interesting thought' and then forget it, I've been trying this for a while and it does make you feel a bit more normal and in control?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Thu 07-Aug-08 21:19:46
Welcome nicand2! Let us know when you start your hypnotherapy and how successful it is. I tried it years ago (have tried most therapies) But i had no success and the therapist said that the fear was too deeply rooted (just an excuse maybe???)

I suppose it depends on where you aare at with the phobia too though coz at the time of mt therapy i was really bad. Maybe now my brain would be more susceptable to new positive thoughts? I still have a severe phobia but years ago i was housebound with it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By nicand2 on Thu 07-Aug-08 21:33:57
Hi Wiggleit,

I am fairly hopeful it might work as I have such varying degrees of anxiety with it, interestly after my first husband walked out on me 6 years ago it almost entirely dissapeared which i can only put down to the fact that i threw myself into life and really 'faced my fears' I have had over 5 years now where my phobia was really under control but after a long period of stress last year it has come back. Also I am convinced I know what the triggers have been for me developing such a fear so I'm hoping the hypnotherapist can go back to that and sort me out!

I have never been housebound with it although I can totally understand where you are coming from on how debilitating it can get. I was at my worst at age 15 and my parents thought I was anorexic as i lost so much weight by only eating 'safe' foods I was really underweight.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Fri 08-Aug-08 04:34:31
Hi all - sounds like I was a combination of wiggleit (I was housebound) and nicand2 ( I was also anorexic - hello btw)! This was in my teens though - had 2 years out of school with it sad.

Anyway - many thanks for all your positive vibes. Not sleeping much tonight but the weather looks ok so confronting that fear is what I'll be doing!!!! I always used to take drugs but I am on the 2ww as we are ttc (hoping to come back with a BFP wink) so not sure that would be a great start for a bean!!!

Love to all - have a great couple of weeks. I may check in from hols!

bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 08-Aug-08 07:44:53
Hi all

welcome nicand2, i hope your therapy works, it would be great to know what happens

i use to go on ferries lots as a child, going on holiday to france, and on the annual 'booze run' wink, but i did take joyriders, that bit is not so bad for me, it is more schools, and small spaces of contact! lucky i dont have any children in school, but my ds starts preschool in january ahhhhh, my dd1 is HE, so thats something

sorry to ramble on blush
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Wed 13-Aug-08 08:05:20
Hi all

Just wanted to let you all know, i am off too see the consultant today, so am a bit nervous as not sure what they are going to say!!!

will post later with what happens
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Wed 13-Aug-08 20:01:54
Hi mt3..how did your sesh go today hun? Hope you got something out of it? What did they say?

Hi to everyone else! xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Thu 14-Aug-08 15:43:08
Hey

i was going to post yesterday but i needed a bit of thinking time, the doctor i saw yesterday was lovely, and kept reassuring me i was not going mad i have been put down for group therapy within the next 2 months and individual therapy within the next 5 months, i know theres a wait but at least i am on the right track

she was very helpful in saying that the thoughts and behaviour i have, are perfectly normal and logical, and that i am going to have to delve back to when this all began, even though i dont remember! she explained things in a logical manner, and thinks theres hope for me.

has anyone tried hypnotherapy, i thought this may help piece the puzzle together?

how is everyone else feeling?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Fri 15-Aug-08 20:03:14
Hi mt3..sounds like you are getting somewhere(or are going to get somewhere) with your therapy.

I tried hypnotherapy years ago and although it never got to the root of my phobia, it did really help with positive thinking and helping me deal with things better.I'd give it another go.

Let us know how you do get on when you start your therapy. xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Thu 21-Aug-08 07:52:02
Hi all,

just thought i would post and say hi to see how everyone is?

has anyone had any recent anxieties and if so how have you dealt with them? what are your strategies on dealing with 'the fear'?

mt3 x x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Sat 23-Aug-08 20:06:03
Cooooeeeee - I'm back! Ferry was fab and mountain air delightful.

Glad everyone ok. Keep us posted with the therapy Mt3. I was told 6 mths but got a letter in 3. It is really worth it but I have to say that Ihave been sorely challenged whilst away. Mind going walkabout and lots of 'what if' thinking. It is still a battle! I will be listening to my therapy tapes over the next few days.

bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By eekamoose on Sat 23-Aug-08 20:13:25
Hello fellow nutters! If anyone wants to know how I am doing please look on Chat under Help Help Help Help Help Help Help Help right now!

Thanks xxxx eek
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Sun 24-Aug-08 09:56:42
Hello BB - glad you are back, and that the ferry went well!!

You are an example to us all.

I shall now see what eek has been up to...
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bagsforlife on Tue 26-Aug-08 12:35:54
I have lurked on this thread for ages but didn't want to join in, in case I scared anyone. I was obviously emetephobic (didn't really realise there was a word for it until coming on here!)but have been 'cured' to a certain extent by my DC3 age 12 who, since a baby, has randomly vomitted all over the place all his life. I have had to get so used to it (other DCs only vomitted the normal number of times). I used to live in absolute fear of anyone vomitting anywhere, myself included but since having DC3 I have faced some absolutely horrendous situations, the one I am most proud of was only recently when DC3 vomitted on a funicular railway which had just started, and we could not possibly get off and we had nothing to catch it in....whipped off my jumper and caught it all it there. Felt SO SORRY for other people on train, including one big man who jumped on his seat to get out of way and looked like he wasgoing to pass out (I would have done the same - pre DC3 vomitter). I just can't believe how it has cured me really, not that I would really recommend it to anyone (by the way DC3 completely unphased by vomming, he won't become an emetephobe!). This phobia really can rule your life, and I wish lots of luck to all the sufferers out there in getting it 'cured'. (By the way, still not so keen on myself vomming, but just have to think of DC3 and how brave he is).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Wed 27-Aug-08 08:26:55
hey ya all

i did have a message all typed up until my laptop broke down

bb - glad you had a good holiday

dot - how are you feeling now?

wig - hows you me dear?

bfl - welcome its great to hear your story, sorry to hear about your dc not being well has it made it easier for you to cope with you being sick?

hi to anyone i missedm out
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 05-Sep-08 21:48:10
hey all
hows everyone now the kids are back at school or going back to school? how is everyone feeling now?

weve had a pretty sh*t week, dh's cousin died, my nan is back in hospital, but on a good note we started HEing again this week and it went really well dd1 is swimming all week and my emet is bad again hand washing again
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Sat 06-Sep-08 17:27:58
The start of term gives rise to such panic that I shan't post on the positive thread!! I shall save my wittering for the emet-anxiety one...

Sorry you've had a bad week - I hope things get better for you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Wed 08-Oct-08 16:44:07
Hi everyone! Not been on here for a while but this time of year gets my anxiety levels right up there! shock Not feeling very positive sad

It would appear a lot of us are still on the other thread, not much positiveness around us lot is there! grin

anyway i have posted on the other thread as well just to keep in touch with my buddies..hope everyone is ok.

No doubt now we will all be logging on a bit more now that noro season is upon us! sad sad
Summer didn't last long did it?pants or wot? angry

Lotsa love to everyone xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Wed 08-Oct-08 16:46:47
You can tell i haven't been on here for a while can't you..What's with all the smileys etc. i ask myself!?? grin grin (off i go again!) x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Wed 08-Oct-08 20:11:22
I can't believe Dottoressa nicked the last post on the other thread!!! Very upset!!!
Dottoressa :-p
bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Wed 08-Oct-08 22:02:10
Dot how dare you nick the last post on the other thread when bb so obviously deserved it! shock

Are we going to continue on this thread then with our tales of woe, need a life-line somewhere! xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Thu 09-Oct-08 20:23:33
OMG!!!!!

I had no idea - I thought it only went up to 1000, and that BB had had the last word as number 1000, as was so rightly deserved blush blush blush blush

I wrote the 1001st, then thought that it wouldn't actually have registered as they don't go over 1000.

I have just spent ages trying to find this thread to say that I have started another one (in 'feeling depressed') - and now I find myself full of horror and remorse.

BB - if I have robbed you of your last word, I can only apologise profusely to you (and everyone else). You deserve a medal, never mind the last word!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Thu 09-Oct-08 20:26:17
I do actually feel really upset by this. I have come to rely on MN for reassurance that I'm not a complete loon, and I feel that I have through ignorance of how MN works (my emet post was my first one) managed to upset everyone who has helped me. sad sad sad

As I say, I am very, very sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Thu 09-Oct-08 21:23:16
Oh Dottoressa - I was taking the p*ss!! Please don't be upset - you have NOT offended me in the slightest!!!!! I have no more right to anything on these threads than anyone else!!

But I'll fight you for the last post on this one wink!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Thu 09-Oct-08 21:28:56
Oh, BB, thank you!!! I have been moping into my chicken curry at the thought of having offended you and the lovely emet gang. I couldn't really explain to DH why I was gloomy, as I thought he'd think I was even nuttier than usual.

I hereby promise to stop posting once this thread gets to 998, just in case!!!

Thank you, BB. I can now manage a smile!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Thu 09-Oct-08 21:31:10
You daft bint!! Well done you for having a curry though - take away??? or home made???
bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Dottoressa on Thu 09-Oct-08 21:43:08
Ooooh not takeaway (too much scope for anxiety there...): made by my own DH's fair hands. I did resist the temptation to remind him that the chicken has to be thoroughly cooked, as I feared he might find it offensive grin

This does remind me that I have to go and sterilise the work-surface, though!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 10-Oct-08 08:28:10
hey all

how is everyone?

just got back from lanzarote and we survived grin had a scary moment ds spiked a tempreture on the last day and even after calpol still would not go down but he was fine dh was brill on holiday and went around with antibac wipes on all door knobs cot etc he is really understanding this phobia which is such a help and i found out a few weeks ago he has some weird ocd with clothe pegs and hanging the washing out grin!!!

mt3 x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Fri 10-Oct-08 09:54:22
Great news mt3!! Really glad you had a good time. Holidays can be really scary can't they? I would always prefer a self catering number but used to lie awake worrying about what I would eat for weeks before leaving - needed to come home for a rest as it was such a stres LOL!!

We have been through an awful time lately with DH's job but are now coming through it. I think that somewhere in all the panic he has understood how I feel both physically and emotionally when very anxious.

Glad ds ok!

bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Fri 10-Oct-08 15:53:53
Hi everyone!

Dot - i too was only taking the pee about you nicking the last post off bb!!You silly sausage! smile

How is everyone doing? Missed all my emet mates! But we back together again (phew!).

I'm a little anxious at the mo because my DH wants to take me on holiday.... abroad (Arrrgghh!) but i have agreed to go (can't live in a bubble can we?). It's just that i hate being stuck on a plane and hate being away from home! (Right miserable cow aren't i??) grin

I am looking forward to the sun but it's getting there that's the prob..and the risks while there. He wants to go all inclusive shock Well at least i might lose a few pounds while i'm there! I'll be packing my own food that i know is safe to survive the hol!

Isn't it a shame i can't be excited about it like 'normal' people?

Anyway i'm going to go for it and hope for the best, we don't even know where we're going yet, haven't booked anything as yet but dh wants to go pretty soon so we'll probably get something last minute. I'll let you know the destination as soon as i know.

xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Notalone on Fri 10-Oct-08 21:01:50
Hi Everyone. I am so sorry I have been absent for so long. I started uni 3 weeks ago as a mature student and everything is so full on at the moment.

Wiggleit - sorry for being so crap at texting back hon - pleeaassse forgive me. I have assigments coming out of my ears and I have kept meaning to text you back. You can give me a virtual slap if you want smile. I understand the excitement / anxiety holiday thing I really do. Are you thinking long or short haul? Love your very rubbish mn and rl mate xxxxx

How is everyone else getting on? Its been ages hasn't it? I had my first Hep B vaccination today (can't get on placement orcontinue my course without it for uni - need 3 altogether) and the major side effect is V. All my uni mates have been fine with it but I am doing dutch courage tonight (and on my own - how sad am I?) to take the edge off the worry. Wish me luck! Oh and Ds says he saw a pile of V in the playground on Mon and anothe pile yesterday in the toilets only his year group use. AArrgghhhh!!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Sat 11-Oct-08 20:54:45
Hey Notalone! Lovely to hear from you...(at last) grin grin

Hope all is going good with your course. Must arrange that night on the pee soon!

Went out last night actually with one of my friends into Doncaster, went to the loo and heard someone v'ing..then when we got outside someone was v'ing..(great!) I was ok actually because i knew it was prob drink related but still not a pleasant thing to see/hear.. yuk!

How is everyone else? All ok i hope xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Notalone on Sun 12-Oct-08 23:46:52
Definitely Wiggleit! Am looking forward to it! Ugh at the V when you last went - its par for the course for some people isn't it hmm When were you thinking to doing it? xx

Am ok so far with my jab so fingers crossed I have not had any side effects. Thank bloody god!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Mon 13-Oct-08 08:06:20
hey all,

well it happened to me saturday night, but i am alive to tell the tale which is more than i thought was possible 6 months ago! dh sat with me just hoping no one else gets it

how is everyone else
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Mon 13-Oct-08 16:16:52
Hi mt3..omg!!!! U v'd sat nite and feel ok?? Well done you! God, there is definitely something going round then? Have you been mear anyone whose had it or did it just come out of the blue? Wana know all the ins and outs of it...you know what us emets are like? What area do you live? Was it just once or several times?

Soz to go on but i need to know all the gory datails! shock

Hi Notalone! Glad you not suffering any horrible side effects from your jab, think you'll be ok now. How's things with you hun, i take it there's something going round at your ds's school if he's seen a couple a piles of v around? oh no! shock Hope all is ok with you.
As for our night out, i will let you know coz dh trying to organize a hol for us pretty soon so my social life depends on that really........grin at 'social life'.

Hi to everyone else! How are we all? xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Mon 13-Oct-08 17:56:30
dont know anybody else to have it, yet!! so fingers crossed my family will escape

i thought it was a kidney infection but the dr said no, started out with really bad back and a bit of nausea, then about 7 and half hours later was sick then again about an hour later, sorry to go into detail blush we live in east berkshire but my children do not go to school!

hope your all well x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Mon 13-Oct-08 18:13:07
sorry should have read 9 and a half hours cause started at 2pm and was sick at 11.30pm, but cause was feeling sick had not eaten thank god iyswim x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By belgianbun on Mon 13-Oct-08 19:06:34
Mt3 - well done you! Glad you are feeling better!

Just goes to show you can protect yourself all you want and it doesn't mean you won't get it. Luck of the drawer and immune system! Sounds like it wasn't half as bad as the anticipation though... easy for me to say!!! LOL

bbxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Notalone on Mon 13-Oct-08 19:34:12
MT3 - well done! You sound like you coped so well!! Did you panic at all or were you calm?

I am so angry at DP atm. He said last Fri that the mate he had just been to see had been Ving as had his entire family (DP and 2 kids) but it was "definitely food poisoning" because they had been round to his DP's nans house and she had accidently undercooked the chicken. He said only those who has eaten chicken were affected and their GP said it was definitely food poisonning too.

Fast forward to today and said mate pops over with his 18 month od DS. First thing he talks about is the v virus they have all had which apparently everyone they have come into contact with has also caught. DP says "oh, wasn't it the chicken then?" and his mate just gave him an odd look. I said to DP that his mate had to go and DP has just basically told me to shut up and stop being ridiculous. They are all sitting outside now and the DS has his hands all over DS's toys. DP knows how I feel and has completely ignored my panic as ridiculous. Also I think he may well have lied which means he has put our family at risk and not told me. He did this once before when I begged him not to take DS to go and see a mutual friend who had just had noro as had her family and he promised he wouldn't. Said friend then dropped him in it and said how lovely it had been to see him and DS.

I know to someone who doesn't suffer emet I may sound very unreasonable but all you emet sufferers will know how I am feeling right now. DP knows how I feel and has still chosen to ignore it. I never stop him going out, he is out more than he is in these days, so you would think he would have done that one thing for me and not gone to see his mate just while he was contagious
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Tue 14-Oct-08 20:05:43
oh Notalone...really feeling it for you atm. I totally get where you are coming from hun. We all do!

I remember you told me before when we met up about your DP going to see your friend who had just had noro...Poor you. It is the mistrust thing that is so bad here isn't it? I am lucky that my DH is very supportive and understanding of my fears to the point of sending his staff home if anyone in their family is ill!

I really don't know what to say babe except that it has been a week so you'll probably all be ok. Your DP didn't have any direct contact with v...but i do know how stressed you will be feeling atm and how angry you are. Try and put things into perspective though, it has been a week, DP is ok, and he is the one that was there. I know he could be carrying the bug but i would think by now some symptoms would have appeared. Please try and stay calm chick (she says knowing i would be acting exactly the same!)

Sending you a massive hug! smile (will meet up very soon)

Hi mt3, thanks for answering all my questions! (sorry blush ) I am a bit neurotic at times (only ALL the time! blush ) You sound like you coped really well. You have given me hope. Hope all the rest of the family escape it. Good on yer girl! x

Hi bb...how's things with you my little mentor and tower of strength! grin xx

Hi to everyone else! xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Notalone on Tue 14-Oct-08 20:29:44
Ah thanks Wiggleit xx. You are right, it is the mistrust thing which gets me and also the fact that he just doesn't get it no matter how much he says he does. If it were him I would never do that to him but hey! We are (so far) still ok so am keeping everything crossed that it will continue. I went outside and sprayed anti bac all over DS's toys in the garden and today it has rained loads so hopefully no germs now.

Have you any idea where you are going on your jollies yet then? <<jealous emoticon?>>smile xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Tue 14-Oct-08 20:48:14
Notalone - it is difficult to get people who aren't phobic to 'get' us. It's just not such a big deal to them is it?

DH wanting to go either Egypt (shock), Canaries or somewhere exotic with loads lf diseases! grin (that ain't happening! hmm) Probably end up in the Canary islands somewhere, 4/5 hr flight (that's more than long enough for me!)

Will let you know asap. We can go for a night out when we get back if you want (When i'm all brown and gorgeous....well brown anyway!heehee!) xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Wed 15-Oct-08 08:43:20
hey all

how is everyone doing?

i seem to be really down at the moment, now i have a cough so feel rotten still , but wanted to share with you all this, when i was sick last time i was pregnant with dd1 and had a bug, dh had to hold my hand and be right by me all the way, i would not even let him go to work! but on saturday he stood next to me the first time and sat out on the box about 6 ft away from me the second time, i feel that is progress not to say i want to be sick or am cured but i am proud of myself and dh support with this (use to be scared of getting the poops, and he did the same and i am fine with it now of a fashion!!!) hope you see what i mean and if it helps anybody great
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Notalone on Wed 15-Oct-08 19:33:45
Sounds like you are kind of doing your own cognitive therapy Mumtoo3 and it sounds like it is working. You are doing well!!!

Wiggle you do realise if you are gonna be all brown and gorgeous you will have to wear baggy tracksuit bottoms and a shapeless jumper to compensate. I refuse to be the really white invisible one lol grin. Not that I will be jealous of your lovely tan or anything, it is just that you will be so used to the lovely hotness of the canaries you may be cold so I want to make sure you don't suffer hmm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Thu 16-Oct-08 14:55:44
Notalone,i'm touched by your thoughtfulness and how caring you are about me feeling the cold etc hmm hmm
Do you think i'm blonde or something?(no offence to any blondes out there but let's just say it has to be used to our advantage at times don't you agree?grin)

I was going to wear baggy tracksuit bottoms anyway actually, but was thinking more of a tank top kinda thing rather than a baggy shapeless jumper..but i know you are only thinking of me when you suggest that..hmm grin angry heehee!! xxx

mt3 - sorry you are still feeling rotten babe, how are you today,any better? Hope so. Am impressed by your diy therapy sesh you did while you were ill on saturday..you are making progress and that is brill..well done! xx

Hi to everyone else! xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 17-Oct-08 08:31:13
hey how is everyone feeling?

Notalone, didnt think of it as diy therapy shock, dh is just so supportive and he knows i have been like it since forever

Wiggleit, still feeling sh*t, not helping that dd2 is refusing to sleep in her bed and still wakes for feeds in the night and she is nearly one!!! the icing on the cake is dh has a cold now! and the cherry on the top is both dd1 and ds woke this morning with snotty noses

so with all this happening we are staying in all day and cooking, dd1 is only doing a bit of english and maths today as i am just yuk and the thought of science or history today is almost unthinkable, so off to cook up some comfort food now x x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Fri 17-Oct-08 13:44:13
Hi mt3, sorry to hear you are feeling crap still, plus the rest of the family too. There is a lot of cold around atm..my dh has had it all week and he never gets ill, my dd has it too so i'm just waiting for me to start with it!

What comfort food did you end up doing? I love marmite on toast when feeling rough. How are you all doing now? Just take it easy today mate. You've had a rubbish week haven't you? sad

Hi to everyone else! xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumtoo3 on Fri 17-Oct-08 15:59:51
yeah so so, dh finishes work at 1.30pm on a friday so hes been here to help, which is great, i got so pi**ed off with dd1 and maths dh has just taken over, but i had to explain more than and less than!!!! just trying to rest my voice at the moment, and to top it all off the toilet has backed up and we are waiting for a plumber (this happens a lot here end of the line!) lucky our house is grace and favour so it wont cost anything

hope everyone else is having a better week x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By wiggleit on Fri 17-Oct-08 17:23:05
Oh mt3, you're not having a good week at all are you? sad

Hopefully all will be well next week! Hope you have a good weekend too. smile xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By annoyingdevil on Fri 17-Oct-08 20:04:13
Aaaaagh am not having a good day!!!!

DS v'd twice last night, DP did most of the mopping up, showering etc, while I slunk away to sleep on the sofa.

What are the chances that it doesn't pass to the rest of us? I'm terrified DD will be next.

Hope everyone else is OK! xx