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Spiritual practice ENDED 7 years of mental illness...

(73 Posts)
flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 11:35:26

Hi all,
I used to talk on here many moons ago (2005-2007), as I was very very mentally disturbed and found every day a struggle. After 7 years of suffering I found out the cause of my pain was spiritual. Daily prayer and listening to Qur'an bought me out of it in 6 months. Bare in mind I did the drugs thing for 7 years and in a cyclical pattern had times when I felt I would not survive one more day without tranquilizers e.g diazepam. The cause, for me, was negative spirits... I am just throwing it out there for you all to consider, as now I have not been on medication for a year and feel like ME again, I feel normal. (grin)

BLOO3Z Sun 17-Mar-13 11:38:57

Negative spirits! tell us more, was it the place you where living in?

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 12:19:05

Hi BLoo32,
Gosh, I will try to keep it short and sweet. You know, spirits/the unseen are around us all the time? So, no, not necessarily the place. I became possessed in August 2004, five months after having my daughter... I should say partially possessed; but at the time that it happened I did not recognise it for what it was and was diagnoised with post-natal psychosis, depression, schizo-effective disorder. I was open to possession because I was weak and had experienced many years of loneliness and after a few years isolation became traumatic for me, I guess like it does to many people.

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 12:21:17

Anyone that is interested I can email my manuscript.... it is nearly finished, don't know why I just don't finish it?

nenevomito Sun 17-Mar-13 12:42:05

In general, I'd say thinking that you are, or have been posessed by evil spirits doesn't exactly point to mental health.

MrsWolowitz Sun 17-Mar-13 12:48:38

I'm glad you're feeling better flake but please don't suggest that all mental health is down to possession or suchlike.

I have bipolar. I do not have demons or whatever.

To suggest otherwise is at best ignorant and at worst offensive and damaging.

noisytoys Sun 17-Mar-13 12:53:00

I have Bipolar too. DD2 has ASD. I am a devout Christian. To say me or DD are possessed is, quite frankly, bollocks!!

It's great that you're feeling better. I think it was the leprauchauns wot done it. Or the men from mars. Or the aliens in the coffee.

Just as much chance of that as being possessed by spirits.

Let me guess - you have a book to sell? Or a church to fill with worshippers?

<cynical>

fuzzpig Sun 17-Mar-13 12:55:55

This is very similar to what a few of my friends said about themselves.

We were in a psychiatric unit at the time.

TheAccidentalExhibitionist Sun 17-Mar-13 12:56:12

Flakecake you don't sound as well as you think you are.
Can you discuss your current thinking with your mental health team?

MrsWolowitz Sun 17-Mar-13 12:57:18

noisy couldn't agree more. I'm a Christian and in no way at all do I think that my illness is due to a spiritual void or suchlike.

I'm very fulfilled spiritually and if anything when bipolar is crapping in my face, my faith gets me through it more than anything else.

colditz Sun 17-Mar-13 12:59:27

With all kindness and respect, you need to go back to your doctor. Your faith will not end if you get an illness treated, nobody will take your spirituality away from you, but you do not sound at all well.

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 13:20:26

Wow! Did you all not read the post?!

Never mind, as I said, it was just something for people who have been unwell for a long time to consider a spiritual aspect. As for doctors, they did not help me, my final healing came directly from God, through prayer and fasting. If you are dissing what I am saying and yet still calling yourself a Christain, then you need to seriously think about whether you are a true believer or not? Look up what Jesus Christ says about human illness. In 7 years no doctor bought me back to full health. I have been off meds for a year and no one I know/meet daily thinks I am ill. Gosh, forget it! Stay in your illness

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 13:23:59

Colditz: that's your disbelief; your very secularised. You obviously missed the bit where I said, I had taken meds for 7 years. And no, no church to fill, I pray at home, don't need to go into any particular building as if God is contained in one!? and I am a Muslim

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 13:25:46

So, what diagnosis would you give Jesus Christ if you met him today? Think about it, carefully

MrsWolowitz Sun 17-Mar-13 13:32:27

Jesus didn't have a mental illness OP.

I'm glad you feel better but I do think it could be an idea to discuss your thoughts with a doctor.

TheSilveryPussycat Sun 17-Mar-13 13:32:44

cake I agree with you that spirituality can contribute much to mental well-being (even though I am actually an atheist).

Demons, not so much. My own mh improved overnight as soon as I started exorcism divorce proceedings against my now Ex.

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 13:50:09

MrsWolowitz: I've done that... for years... enough's, enough. Please read the Gospel, and consider... is your God a living God, able to do all things? Just consider. I know I feel well and that is not something another human being can tell me.
Don't worry guys, I had 'services' running in and out my home all Summer 2012, looking for the slightest sign of craziness; they could not find it, were very confused, and I have been signed off from the mental health team. I think they came to see that all in mine and my daughters life was well whether they agreed with what I was saying or not.

What TheSilveryPussycat says, pretty much.

Honestly, I think it's lovely that you've come on here to share your experience. I didn't read it as an assertion that all mental illness is caused by evil spirits either- just that that was what you felt it had been in your case. For what it's worth, I don't think you sound ill, especially: there are many different ways of looking at life and reality, luckily.

I would, however, suggest that you entertain the idea that there is more than one explanation for anything- and there may not have been any spirits plaguing you- or not in the sense that you seem to believe. Aside from anything, this can be counter-productive as fear can definitely feed into these influences growing stronger. In this situation, some doubt might be a good thing, as is often the case with any new belief system. (Hope that makes sense!)

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:09:24

Yes, thank you Silvery... I was just putting it 'out there' as I found, during the seven years I was ill, spiritual aspects of mental health are in NO WAY acknowledge and I was just saying (in my case) the causation was spiritual; so this may be the case for others.
So, after 7 years off battling something from a biological perspective, I found hitting it from a spiritual perspective (because the causation was demonic/bad spirit) healed me totally. In fairness, I used to be Catholic, and the priests really don't even believe it.
Of course there is more than one explanation for things, human life is complex, but spirituality should not be forgotten as it has been.

Please, I don't care what you all believe in, but it may be that if prayer and fasting helped me, it may help someone else, that's all!

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:11:47

Thanks silverypussycat! Bit scarey on here... Bit weird for me to be scared of anything after what I've been through!!! Not a joke

TheRealFellatio Sun 17-Mar-13 14:17:13

Mmmm. Well I don't really care whether you want to call it 'possession' by bad spirits, or whether the doctors prefer to call it post-natal psychosis and schizo-effective disorder, tis all the same to me. You were very ill and now you seem much better. Good for you. But please keep taking the medication otherwise the evil spirits might come back.

I am delighted for you that you seem to have found peace and good health at last.

TrampyPants Sun 17-Mar-13 14:17:17

I don't think its appropriate to post this on a forum used by people who suffer delusions, anxiety, paranoia and EDs.

There is a great spirituality forum which would be far less damaging for vulnerable posterts.

I wish you well. But posters who have been diagnosed with mh issues should continue meds etc, not put all their faith in spirituality. And should certainly not fast.

TheSecondComing Sun 17-Mar-13 14:18:47

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

flakecake Sun 17-Mar-13 14:21:36

And I do not see how suggesting bad-spirits are the cause of some human illness is offensive or damaging... this is just the reality of what happens to some people.
You know, I feel a successful mental health team should have a lot of people eventually turning round to them and saying,- thanks, I feel better; Not, - Gosh, will I be this ill for the rest of my life?

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