The 5:2 thread number 25- One year on from Dr Mosley's Horizon ep!

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GreenEggsAndNichts Mon 05-Aug-13 16:28:03

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

NFD = Non fast day

NSV = Non scale victory

Michael Mosley has a website to accompany his book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- you'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

All our previous threads can be found by browsing through our very own fasting section of the site.

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the tips and links that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

There's a link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here.

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview by Dr Mosley himself, very informative if you're just starting. (I highly recommend this for an overview)

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful.

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

Preciousdaisybear Wed 25-Sep-13 19:02:18

Hello I am a newbie to this. I have quite a bit of (baby) weight to lose. Bear in mind 'baby' is now 3 1/2 . I have tried low carb but still hovering at about 12.5 st. I am a teacher with 3 DS one who is severe SN so life is quite busy so not surprising I haven't seen the inside of a gym for many yeard. I really hope this works for me. I am doing my first fast day tomorrow. Wish me luck!

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 24-Aug-13 11:27:01

May I have the honour? Ahem!

***THREAD NOW CLOSED***

Please Click for continuing chat and support smile

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BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 11:23:27

Ahem, I'll try that again shall I?

THREAD 26 HERE

BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 11:22:55

Thread 26 now open!

[http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/fasting_diet/1834817-The-5-2-thread-number-26-Bring-on-the-Lifestyle-Change-Victories?msgid=41104478#41104478 THREAD 26 HERE]]

BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 11:20:34

JB30 [impressed] I've been attempting to watch netflix while doing crunches and press ups - I last all of 5 mins before I decide I'll just have a lie down instead! Having a lazy couple of days...

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 24-Aug-13 11:18:42

Ooh! And, as I am a huge fan of having a piece of good quality chocolate every day, I wish to bring to yiur attention monty bojangles cocoa dusted truffles. My favourite yet and about 50 calories per truffle. I prefer a truffle to a chunk because it's more measurable.

BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 11:18:03

Ramble away folks!

I've set up a new thread here anyway!

JB30 Sat 24-Aug-13 11:16:54

I'll help! I love a good ramble. I delighted myself with my lateral thought, I wanted to watch the men whI made us thin but needed to do a run - so I watched it which on the treadmill! 58 mins, just under 4.5 miles, dripping with sweat! Feel v proud of oneself. Also on 16:8, going for brunch with a pal in an hour. I reckon I earned it. Also as of this morning just about back to pre-hol weight! Took 1 calendar month. In the past that would take twice or thrice that. By the time I come back I expect a new thread grin

HellesBellesThinksSometimes Sat 24-Aug-13 11:15:06

Ok - tmi alert - I had a very large mug of hot water yesterday with a thick slice of lemon and have been to the toilet three times since. Definitely a good cure for constipation smile

BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 11:03:42

Slowest.... thread... ever! Does that mean we're all competent fasters now who don't need all the fabulous chat and support on here? shock

just checking in from my sunbed to do my bit to fill up the thread smile

Good luck to all the fasters today smile

MissStrawberry Sat 24-Aug-13 09:18:30

Week 3 and I am the same weight as last week. Happy not to have put anything on but disappointed if all I get is 2 weeks of weight loss before my body does its usual I am used to this now so will stay put or gain now.

BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 09:01:00

<contemplates hot bath> grin

BetsyBell Sat 24-Aug-13 08:59:59

Bonbonbonbons grin. Brian Butterfield pops up on CBBC, there's some good comedy on that channel!

Swimming in cold water is one thing, and I love it. I quite like a quick flash of cold water after a hot shower but I couldn't and wouldn't want to ditch the hot water entirely, not unless I moved somewhere decidedly more tropical!

It's given me bad memories of boilers not firing up on cold wintery mornings. Brrr.

Therealamandaclarke Sat 24-Aug-13 08:47:17

<considers cold shower>

Therealamandaclarke Sat 24-Aug-13 08:46:13

Hi.
NFD today. Love toast with marmalade and a big bowl of mocha vino.smile

I'd really like to stop snacking on NFDs. Seems odd that it's tough when I can do two FD a week, one of which is virtually zero cals.
Must try harder
Bumpity bump

Hmmm, I remember a discussion on MFP about the cold shower theory once. It did not end well.

But the debate on 52fastdiet seems a bit more civilsed.

I always end my usual warm shower with a blast of cold - it's supposed to be good for shiny hair, closes the pores, and stops me being all sweaty while I try to get dressed. I'm not convinced that any effect on burning brown fat etc would be very noticable.

I have cold showers. But I live in a hot country and with a/c on its 80 degrees f in, 86 out.

Water is never properly cold, which is a pain.

Breadandwine Sat 24-Aug-13 02:47:01

Just made a quick trip into town to save my son a taxi fare. He's down on a flying visit and has had a night on the lash with a mate of his.

He's come home absolutely starving and got stuck right into the leftover Thai curry that I had on the stove…

Well I couldn't let him demolish it all himself, could I? So I had to join in and have a bowl myself - with a large glass of wine.

Now he's gone to bed and I'm still nibbling (and imbibing!)

Ah, well! No breakfast or lunch for me tomorrow! grin

Breadandwine Sat 24-Aug-13 01:16:02

Couple of blog posts here on the health benefits of taking a daily cold shower. Seems to make sense to me - so much so that I'm giving it a go myself:

Getting Stronger

Cold water therapy

And there is an ongoing discussion about this on the 52fastdiet forum which may be of interest.

eatriskier Fri 23-Aug-13 23:26:41

eagleriderdirk in her new guise here.

So this thread has gone slow for days, I bugger off for one day and you've all returns <tries not to act like shunned schoolgirl>

Congrats to nearly everyone who posted I think.

Shake yo bonbon sake yo bonbonbon

peplum41 Fri 23-Aug-13 23:08:44

I keep saying bonbonbonbons.

And a bowl of icecubes with sweetener on for pudding! Genius.

NotAsTired Fri 23-Aug-13 23:05:53

Pints of cream and sandwich casseroles. grin

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