5:2 Diet Thread! 13! Now, the baker's dozen!

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GreenEggsAndNichts Tue 19-Feb-13 10:09:14

The continuing thread for those of us following either the 5:2 diet or the alternate-day fasting diet.

The 5:2 diet was featured on Horizon in August 2012, and essentially requires you to fast for 2 non-consecutive days per week. The other 5 days, you can eat what you like, or approximately your TDEE (see explanation below). Alternate-day fasting is just how it sounds; you fast every other day. By "fasting", we mean that we keep our calorie consumption very low, around 500 calories on average for a woman, 600 for a man, on those days.

You'll find on these threads we use a number of acronyms. If you're new to the threads, or Mumsnet in general, they might not make much sense.

WOE/WOL = Way Of Eating/Way Of Life. We use this term instead of "diet" as many of us see this as something to do in the long term.

MFP = My Fitness Pal, a website many use for keeping track of the number of calories they're eating.

TDEE = Total Daily Energy Expenditure, quantifies the number of calories you burn in a day. This measure is best estimated by scaling your Basal Metabolic Rate to your level of activity. TDEE is critical in tailoring your nutrition plan to desired fitness goals. Here is a link to a calculator to help you figure out how many calories you should be eating in a day.

ADF = Alternate-day Fasting, as it says on the tin, fasting every other day rather than 5:2.

Michael Mosley has recently unveiled a new website to accompany his new book on the subject. Please go check them out, as he's the whole reason most of us are here!

I know a number of people lurk on this thread, as this is currently quite popular. Please just jump in and post if you're new- we won't bite. Well, maybe on a fast day. wink You'll find a lot of support here.

Here is a list of links to get you started with this way of eating. Please let us know if you find a new article or some other information online:

First things first, here are links to some of our previous threads: most recent one before that another one!

Another thread which breadandwine has started is a good resource for some of the links and tips that get lost in these big threads. In addition to sharing links, we try to condense some of our top tips for fasting there. Keep in mind, we all do this differently, so these are just tips, not rules. This might be a good place to catch up with us if you're feeling a bit lost!

frenchfancy has a recipe thread over here, please post any low-calorie recipes there so they don't get lost in these bigger threads!

If you've been at this a while and are moving on to maintaining your goal weight, there is a thread here to discuss that.

Here is the link to the BBC article regarding Michael Mosley's findings, which was featured on Horizon.

B&W has found a new link to the aforementioned Horizon programme here. If you're keen to see it, watch it soon, because BBC has been quick to find these copies and shut them down online. We're hoping they'll re-play it again soon. I know these threads are popular, maybe they'll read my request. wink

A blog post here gives some of the scientific explanation for why this way of eating helps you to not only lose weight, but improve your all-around health.

A Telegraph article which comments on the diet and gives a brief overview.

A study discussed here gives commentary specifically addressing the effect of this diet on obese people (both men and women), with regard to both health and weight loss. ("After 8 weeks of treatment, participants had an average 12.5 lbs reduction in body weight and a 4 cm decrease in waist circumference. Total fat mass declined by about 12 lbs while lean body mass remained relatively constant.) it also mentions "Plasma adiponectin, a protein hormone that is elevated in obesity and associated with heart disease, dropped by 30%. As did LDL cholesterol (25%) and triglycerides (32%).")

Something to consider if you are currently your ideal BMI: this appears to suggest the benefits for women at a lower BMI might not be seeing the same health benefits that are found on men at their ideal BMI.

A BIG THANK YOU to all who have been contributing, btw. Most of us are learning this way of eating as we go along. All of the links above have been posted by others in our previous threads, and they've been very helpful. Sorry if I haven't given credit where it's due, but it was just enough of a job getting all the links re-copied and back into one post.

Come join us, and tell us about your experiences with this diet!

PassTheSherry Thu 28-Feb-13 13:07:26

Hi everyone! Gosh this thread moves fast - I posted a little 'hello' less than a week ago and meant to say thanks for the welcome, been busy a couple of days and now I've lost track from when I last posted as it's moved on so much! Anyway - thank you for the welcome, and the helpful posts for newcomers.

Quick update - had first ever fast day last Saturday and it went OK - the fasting was hard, but doable - however, I had the worst night's sleep in quite a long time that night, couldn't drop off until well after 4am, and tired all next day. Second day of fasting went a lot better, as I deliberately chose a busy day, with lots to do to keep my mind off food. I also bought in two ready meals and saved myself the hassle of cooking and totting up calories of every ingredient etc. Lots of water and vegetable bouillon. The total calories came to more than 500 - but as I was out and about, on my feet for a lot - and walking around I took that into account. MyFitnessPal app is my new best friend.

Heh talking of which - today is a non-fast day, and I went for a full english breakfast, coffee - used the app to see how much of my daily calories I've eaten, and to my horror it's already up to 1800!!! I had no idea it would be that much. shock

So, now I'm thinking - shall I just count today as a blip and eat more sensibly for the rest of the day, and spend tomorrow on 430-500cals fasting - or shall I start fasting now, stick to <500 cals between now and tomorrow, and eat normally again from tomorrow lunchtime??

I'm a little unclear about the 24hr 'fasting periods' - is it 24hrs between meals? Because that is a lot easier than a day of fasting with a night's sleep on either end iyswim.

PassTheSherry Thu 28-Feb-13 14:16:53

Argh just seen new thread - see you over there!

BlackMaryJanes Thu 28-Feb-13 21:22:46

Someone talk me out of over-eating. My mind is playing tricks on me, urging me to binge on snack a jacks.

charliegreentea Fri 01-Mar-13 02:44:11

Hi bmj, two things I find really good if I feel like snacking are raw, sliced cabbage (nice and crunchy) or if you're wanting a sweet treat, frozen blueberries and natural yoghurt. Or how about some plain popcorn? Good luck!

wildwater Sat 02-Mar-13 19:58:59

Fast days are being shifted around every week - always a reason - and seems to be OK.

Onto my third month of this WOE/WOL. I feel so much better in every way: much more energy, happier, and my clothes fit me again (if not falling off!).

Have adopted (mostly) not eating carbs after around 4pm. Not set in concrete, but easy to do: eat your rice/pasta/potatoes at 'lunch' and then veges with protein for dinner.

Also getting out there and moving more...a brisk 20 minute walk most days. And my wonderful set of 'wall exercises'...starting to get a toned midriff! (And I am 62...)

My partner is doing 5:2 as well - looking much younger and loving it!

Cheers to all, and good luck.

wildwater Sun 03-Mar-13 17:57:57

Can somebody please point me to the new thread?

Outnoobered Mon 04-Mar-13 17:09:30

Hi everyone, first post!

Male, 46. Been doing mostly 5:2 (occasionally 4:3) since the beginning of September and I've lost around 2 stone in that 6 months. BMI is now around 23.

Anyway, I have a question I never thought I'd need to ask: when do I stop trying to lose weight? what is the ideal BMI? Obviously the advice is 18.5 to 25 but within that range, is it best to be at the mid point or the lower end? I did read some stuff that said around 19.5 is ideal but other stuff said over 22.5 was better = confused!

I'm thinking of the best weight for health and I'm aware of the shortcomings of the BMI scale.

Apologies if this has been asked before and thanks in advance,
David

Dotty342kids Mon 04-Mar-13 17:16:08
Treacleq Tue 05-Mar-13 12:14:51

Wow! I have spent the last three days reading through this amazing thread and couldn't help but want to join in!

I'm very new to dieting, and have become rather depressed since attempting Diet Chef from the New Year.

I weighed myself just before Xmas and realised I had put on a stone since I last weighed myself about three months before! I thought 'Now is the time and I really must do something about this!'. I'm 30 now and have been 14 stone and a size 18 for about the last 10 years, I'm 5'10 so just about got away with it but have always been overweight and unhappy with my extreme apple shape - but never so bothered as to actually do something about it... Then I got sucked in by the ads and thought I would try DC as I want to get to a healthier weight.

Well that backfired big time - I'm now 15 st 8! Horrendous! Its left me feeling worse than when I started sad (and considerably lighter in pocket) I did cheat at weekends because I felt so restricted but hoped to loose at least a pound or two!

So here I am - your posts have been so inspirational, and along with a male colleague at work loosing a lot of weight on 5:2 I'm giving it a go! First fast done yesterday ( the DC meals are handy for out and about calorie counting on these days - one use for all the left overs anyway!) and just over at 540 cals - felt elated and 'lighter', didn't sleep wonderfully but woke feeling lively and happy this morning!

So fingers crossed for another fast on Wednesday... and then another, and another smile

Apols for the lengthy post but this thread has been wonderful and inspiring and I so hope I can succeed just as most of you have done! Thank you!!

surfbrickie2 Tue 05-Mar-13 14:07:06

Hi everyone

First day fasting today! Struggling quite a bit as I am such a big grazer so the hunger seems to come regularly. Also I am very active and do a lot of sport.

I really hope this gets easier!!

I had a Bovril to try and trick myself into "lunch" without eating...

I'm 47 and would like to lose about 10 pounds - has anyone else about my age noticed they looked OLDER when they lost the weight? Bit worried about looking gaunt!

Wish me luck!

daisyji Wed 06-Mar-13 22:13:34

Help, please...

I looked to start this back in the summer, bought the books, but then decided I couldn't do it in case it made me feel deprived, binge etc. I like so many others have tried every diet under the sun, from ww. to atkins, sureslim etc, .

I in a desperate attempt have been following a low carb plan called natural ketosis, cost me a lot of money I didn't have, and I really didn't like the prepackaged food. I've manage to lose over a stone, need to lose at least 3 to get back to 12 stone, but as always happens, time of stress + ill health and I crave all the carbs/choc etc I haven't been having and have put on over 5 lbs in two weeks.

After much sobbing and despair, I am again looking at this woe, as I soooo want to find a way of lifethat enables me to lose weight and feel normal. I would very much love anybody's opinion as to how this diet has affected their cravings, denials etc, and whether anybody who is an emotional eater or who binges now and again has managed on this diet?

I need some hope!

thanks v much x

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janetxb Fri 29-Mar-13 15:46:42

I'm fairly new at this, having done 6 fast days in 3 weeks. I'm finding it pretty difficult to get through the day, and I even go over the recommended calories because my TDEE is high and I'm active. Here is my question: Yesterday was a fast day. I ate 732 calories, but burned 630 calories doing my normal daily exercising. Net calories taken in: 102. I have Mosley's book, but haven't read all of it, so I don't know if he addresses this or not. Obviously I'm going to feel quite a lot different at the end of the day than someone who's not exercising. I'd be quite interested in any thoughts any of you have about this.

That said, my scale is down a fourth pound this morning, and I am happy to be doing this. smile

I have found these mumsnet threads to be so helpful and encouraging... even though as an American I don't know what you're talking about often when you refer to various foods! Thank you to all of you who have shared your experiences. You're the wind underneath my wings!

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