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"Scout and proud" and "Guide with pride" sweatshirts

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Almacks · 04/07/2011 14:48

Is it just me, or do these slogans sound as though they've borrowed something from the Gay Pride movement? I thought that guiding/scouting organisations were just - neutral?

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Almacks · 04/07/2011 14:52

By neutral I mean not really getting involved with sexual preferences one way or the other - just having fun out in the fresh air. Oh dear, now I've started typing, everything seems loaded with innuendo. I just mean, having fun as a child, learning about growing up to be a responsible adult with no emphasis on sexuality at all.

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woolleybear · 04/07/2011 18:51

I don't get how it has anything to do with sexual preferences? A girl or a boy could be wearing the former? It just means they are prou to be a Guide/Scout and I wouldn't have read it any other way

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Almacks · 04/07/2011 18:58

Well, " Out and Proud" is definitely a gay slogan, and XYZ Pride is too, eg Brighton Pride.

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woolleybear · 04/07/2011 19:47

Yes, but it is not the only association of those words. I don't think they are suggesting that all scouts are gay therefore I don't see that they have anythong to do with sexuality

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ComeIntoTheGardenMaud · 05/07/2011 14:52

I'm a Brownie leader but I haven't seen or heard of these sweatshirts.

It sounds to me as if alal they have borrowed from the Gay Pride movement is a sense of taking pride in who you are and what you do, which is something we encourage in the Brownies.

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EcoLady · 26/07/2011 01:47

They are just supposed to be fun and a way of turning one slogan into another way of looking at things.

They are from One Stop Scouting. My Beaver son, Guide daughter and I (I'm an Owl) each have one. They are fabulous quality and very snuggly.
www.onestopscouting.co.uk/category/Casual_Clothing/Guide_with_Pride,l.html

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spiderpig8 · 02/08/2011 11:27

I wouldn't want my DC wearing them because I think they have very clear 'gay' connotations. Not that I have any problem ith people being gay of course.

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bobthebudgie · 15/09/2011 17:48

Jeez...some people are really weird! I'm involved with both Brownies and Guides and all the girls go home gay.

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EcoLady · 15/09/2011 21:14

One finger one thumb keep moving
One finger one thumb keep moving
One finger one thumb keep moving
We'll all be merry and gay.

(or am I just showing my age that that's the version I knew first?)

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ImNotaCelebrity · 17/09/2011 23:46

I noticed a young boy of about 10 on the beach in the summer, wearing what I thought was an 'out and proud' t-shirt. I thought it was an odd decision by his parents to let him wear it, and I spent ages trying to see whether it really did say that without wanting to be seen to be staring, iykwim! Now I've read this thread, it all makes sense! Grin

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ravenAK · 17/09/2011 23:58

It'll just be the assonance of 'Scout & Proud' & the rhyme of 'Guide with Pride'. Good slogans.

& if they are nicked from Gay Pride, that's great unless you're a bigoted numpty. Probably owes something to James Brown's 'Say it Loud - I'm Black & Proud' too.

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