What would you say to a friend/colleague who pointed out, kindly

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That you were mispronouncing a foreign word?

Just wondered if I am touchy or this is another time when she says something to me and I should stand up for myself?

I just Said do you mean ...........

Wasn't rude, didn't snigger. She had missed out a vowel and made the word sound like something completely different. Was just a statement really.

BIWI Sun 17-Feb-13 16:50:58

Hmm. But that could be construed as being patronising, could it not?

Booyhoo Sun 17-Feb-13 16:52:14

erm, hardly any point in not saying the word now as she will have worked out from the thread that it's her you are talking about anyway. what is the word?

moondog Sun 17-Feb-13 16:52:18

God, I've been laughing at my dh for years for his inability to say sauvignon blanc properly. Occasionally I may even swear at him too.
It's rather trying to have a degree in another language as it is so irritating when peopel mispronounce words.
I have just winced through my dd's revision for a French test.
Doesn;t sound like any French I was taught.

grin

Booyhoo Sun 17-Feb-13 16:53:18

yep that does come across as quite smugly patronising.

Can someone confirm the correct pronunciation of ciabatta? My mum and sister insist on calling it chee-a-batta whereas I thought its just cha-batta as the "cia" at the start of Italian words is what makes the "cha" sound? Am I right?

shushpenfold Sun 17-Feb-13 16:53:56

Sorry but this sounds patronising to me too.......I wouldn't have sworn at you but I would not have been happy about it.

amothersplaceisinthewrong Sun 17-Feb-13 16:54:13

I would have done what Sauvignonblanche said and somehow incorporated the word pronounced correctly in a sentence. Or I would have let it go.

shushpenfold Sun 17-Feb-13 16:54:36

Curly....apparently it's see-a ba-ta grin

Back to the OP, unless you REALLY didn't know what word she was saying then you were rude to point out her mistake. Just say it correctly next time you say it and she will "get it" then without being shown up by a know-all!!!

Shush - grin

TheSecondComing Sun 17-Feb-13 17:00:41

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GetOrf: "penne as in Sean"??!?!?!?!

MrsSchadenfreude Sun 17-Feb-13 17:02:17

You sound patronising. My MIL says "tagliatell." I don't correct her, I know what she means.

I would probably tell you to fuck off as well, like I did to the person who was telling me, very patronisingly, and wrongly, how to (mis)pronounce "chorizo."

MrsSchadenfreude Sun 17-Feb-13 17:03:20

Are you one of those ponces who asks loudly and smugly for a "panino" as well? grin

Curly, as far as I know you're sort of both right smile There is a definite 'y' sound in there and if you were to exaggerate it it would sound a bit like "chee-ya-batta" but Italians run those sounds very close together so it's more like "chya" as one syllable, rather than "chee-ya" as two syllables.

TomDudgeon Sun 17-Feb-13 17:06:26

Penne as in Sean? Porn?

Yes, MIL calls Thai food "thigh food". Thought she was joking at first then realised she'd just never made the connection between the world Thailand which she pronounces correctly (i think!) and Thai food. I could never point it out but am always confused as to why she cant "get it" when we say we went to a Thai restaurant. Later on in the conversation she'll refer back to the thigh food. grin

She is lovely but not very worldly-wise!

nooka Sun 17-Feb-13 17:10:04

If the 'you are stupid' subtext came across in the 'kind' correction then that would be very irritating.

I'm imagining something like this:

Colleague: 'I'm making tirmisu tonight'
OP ' Do you mean tir- a -misu?'
Colleague 'Oh fuck off you stuck up cow'

If it went like this I'd say that the OP was being very patronizing and unnecessary and that the colleague had a bit of a potty mouth but was quite normal to be irritated.

lastSplash Sun 17-Feb-13 17:10:25

Getorff have you seriously come across someone who pronounces penne as PORN!

Or have I been mispronouncing Sean all these decades...

Lizzabadger Sun 17-Feb-13 17:10:58

Was it bruschetta?

Ok I get it I'll just ignore it next time.

Oh and I'm not a ponce, evil, smug or rude just thought she would rather say it correctly than sound stupid pronouncing something wrongly. I would rather someone point out to me if I was pronouncing something incorrectly.

Booyhoo Sun 17-Feb-13 17:14:12

grin

i think she meant sean as in sean penn (sp?)! not pronouncing penne as porn like sean (shawn)! grin although i am from NI and sean and porn are not remotely the same in pronunciation.

Tee2072 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:14:54

So if I came up to you and said 'you know it's pronounced penne, like sean (which I still can't figure out)' you'd say thanks?

I doubt it. You'd probably be embarrassed and therefore defensive.

Which is what she probably was.

Turniphead1 Sun 17-Feb-13 17:15:14

I worked in a cafe in the 80s that had a cappuccino machine. Some of the pronunciations were hilariously dire. "Cup-ah-teeny" being a real favourite. Of course I always said "enjoy your Capa-chino" but to no avail.
People don't listen. But I would never have corrected them. As, it's rude.

My sisters law says "chorizo" in the most daft way. She should know better. I just smile inwardly.

Mind you I have a mental block about Reisling. Is it "Reesling" or "Rysling". Oh the trials of middle class life. wink

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