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Mumsnet Discussions: Ethical living : My shampoo confession (30 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsbabookaloo on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:48:11
OK, so I need to offload my guilt here and declare publicly that I have given up on eco-friendly shampoo.

I've been using it for years, have tried various types, have been paying 8 quid a bottle for green people stuff and my hair never feels clean and always looks crap.

I have very thick greying hair with a tendency to frizz and the other day I threw ethics to the wind and bought chemical-laden L'Oreal-produced, Fructis frizz fighter and I'm sorry to say my hair looks and feels 100 times better.

I know I shouldn't care more about my hair than about the parabens and sodium laureth sulphate but I'm sticking with it.

I don't have a car, a microwave, or a tumble dryer, don't wear make-up or perfume, use all eco-friendly cleaning products, I recycle and compost....PLEASE can I be let off, oh ethical livers?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MaryAnnSingleton on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:49:12
hah ha ! you need chemicals really !
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By kingprawntikka on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:52:05
Have you tried the Tesco's Bnatural range. they are free from parabens and other nasties and seem to work well. Does means giving money to Tescos though!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:55:32
Burt's Bees is the best shampoo I've ever used, much bettter than any big name one that I've tried, and it's paraben and sls free. Aveda was pretty good too. They're both pretty expensive, but I find Burt's Bees shampoo lasts for ages.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By moondog on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:58:36
You are Absolved m'dear.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsbabookaloo on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:58:43
OK, when I've finished my bottle of evil, I'll try the other ones you've suggested. Thanks!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cmotdibbler on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:58:57
Have you tried Lush Daddy O ? In fact all their hair care is really nice, and makes my hair look great. Its light on the chemicals too.

But hey, you have to have a little eco guilt in your life !
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsbabookaloo on Mon 24-Nov-08 16:59:24
Thanks moony - you've got the credentials to absolve me, I think!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Mon 24-Nov-08 17:01:11
I didn't like Lush, I tried two of their shampoos and neither did much for me. I'm pretty sure that one of them had SLS in it too.

I don't think my conditioner is particularly green though, I use Aussie 3 minute miracle.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Takver on Mon 24-Nov-08 17:20:53
OUCH at 8 quid. Have you tried Faith in Nature, it is not too pricey and goes a long way & I think actually works.
I'm impressed by their bubble bath too which I bought with a wince (£4.80 I think it was) for dd because there wasn't any cheap stuff to be had in town but has lasted at least 6 times as long as the £1 bottles and the bubbles are better too.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MaryAnnSingleton on Mon 24-Nov-08 17:26:33
Daniel Galvin Jnr stuff is v good,as is Tisserand
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsbabookaloo on Mon 24-Nov-08 20:46:46
MAS, are those last 2 eco-friendly?

Takver, think I've tried Faith in Nature and not been impressed.I may revisit though.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Takver on Mon 24-Nov-08 21:11:34
Come to think of it, maybe it doesn't do it for curly hair? I have a feeling my friend with fab curls doesn't like it at all.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By girlandboy on Mon 24-Nov-08 21:14:30
Alright, if we're into confessions.....I can't get enough of Soap & Glory products! Oh the shame.shock

Full of parabens, un-eco chemicals and probably DDT as well, but I LOVE IT!

<<slinks away in shame>>
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ib on Mon 24-Nov-08 21:37:48
I live with the green shampoos, but I cannot give up the chemical-laden conditioners. I have hair that sounds a bit like yours and gets into a total tangle and none of the eco-friendly conditioners I've tried (some of which are stupidly expensive) have worked at all.

I also can't live with the 'natural' hair colours. They just will not cover my grey.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Zazette on Mon 24-Nov-08 21:47:09
Second the Aveda recommendation - your hair sounds a bit like mine, and their products are great for me.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Tue 25-Nov-08 10:49:38
I don't think more expensive shampoos are necessarily more expensive per wash. Burt's Bees is £11 a bottle, but I only use 2 bottles PER YEAR and I wash my hair at least 5 times a week. I tried JASON at the beginning of the summer and I couldn't believe at how much I had to use to get a lather, and then it was much too drying for my hair anyway. I suppose the biggest problem with the expensive ones is that it's an expensive mistake if you buy a bottle and you don't like it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsbabookaloo on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:21:59
Yes, I found JASON to be one of the worst. That's the thing, bran, I haven't tried them all, but I hate to buy something and try it and then if it's no good, I have yet another bottle hanging around the bathroom making me feel bad.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:48:06
I'd send you a little bit of my Burt's Bees to try, but it's the wrong type for you if you have thick hair.

I know what you mean about bottles hanging around the bathroom, it drives my DH insane that there's so much stuff there that I don't use. I must sort myself out to offer some of it FFP on here.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By WhereTheWildThingsWere on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:50:06
MOP is fantastic.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:54:40
I wasn't keen on MOP (I really have tried lots of shampoo blush). It was too drying on my hair when I tried it at home, but strangely it was pretty good at my parent's house where the water is very soft. Obviously it's almost as much to do with what the water is like as what the shampoo is like.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mrsbabookaloo on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:56:13
What's MOP?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:57:31
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Tue 25-Nov-08 14:59:49
They do tester-sized bottles for about £3.50 on their own website so you can try with minimal guilt if you want. The one I've tried before is glisten.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By WhereTheWildThingsWere on Tue 25-Nov-08 15:34:22
Mixed greens is really nice, as is lemongrass.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By DomesticBlobess on Wed 26-Nov-08 13:46:52
I could have written the opening message - love natural skincare and body products but just haven't found a good, more natural shampoo and conditioner and end up using Pantene or some other chemical laden rubbish which actually do a reasonably good job!

I have tried Aubrey Organics, Green people, Pure Nuff Stuff, Naked and Faith in Nature and am too currently using some L'Oreal products which do make my hair feel clean and nice.

Have used MOP glisten before and found it to make my hair too greasy.

Have made a mental note of Bran's Burts Bees recommendation - Bran - don't know if you remember but I got some Akamuti Shea Mandarin Butter based on your recommendation - and I love it, it is gorgeous and my new favourite product - already used one tub!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By midnightexpress on Wed 26-Nov-08 13:49:21
Aveda is luuuurvely. And it smells divine.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By bran on Wed 26-Nov-08 14:39:08
I'm glad you like it DB, it's fab stuf isn't it? I've been using their liquid African Black Soap in the shower for the last week and it's very gentle on my skin too. It doesn't foam quite as well as non-green shower gel but I use it on a nylon scrunchy thingy and it works well (so long as I can distract my mind from thinking it looks like runny poo smile).

Don't bother with Burt's Bees conditioner, I didn't think it was all that special considering the price and it doesn't last as long as the shampoo so it's not very good value. I don't think commercial conditioners (like Aussie) as as un-green anyway as they don't have detergent in them. I'm willing to be corrected though if anyone knows differently.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Furball on Wed 26-Nov-08 14:47:35
I'm going to join this little club! I love Jason and use most of their stuff, but have found the shampoo rubbish, I've used faith in nature and countless other shampoos. The one I did find (can't remember the name now) was discontinued so that is that. Am currently on an organic one from sainsbos which is Ok but not great and I too have reverted to 'normal' conditioner thinking it hasn't got SLS (my main bugbear, it's soooo harsh on the skin/hair) so I'm back at square one. Thinking maybe Bnatural (tescos - how very dare I wink) might be my next one (if they do one) I've bought their body butter and it's lovely and also their night cream is good plus it's also cheap! Will let you know.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By EarthwormFrittataBugEnchilada on Wed 26-Nov-08 15:01:30
Daniel Galvin Jnr shampoo from Waitrose is fabulous, esp the organic Lavender one.


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