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Mumsnet Discussions: Ethical living : would a dehumidfier dry my washing (46 messages)
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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyjjbaby on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:22:28
just a thought or is ir bad for enviromnet
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By wobbegong on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:45:19
yes.
and probably.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyjjbaby on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:53:44
worth it or not then or would i be better off using tumble drier occasionly
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:54:38
Where would the energy come from?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cmotdibbler on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:55:26
We have a dehum for the washing. It works really, really well, and is a lot more energy efficient than using the tumble dryer, esp as you can just have it on for a bit
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyjjbaby on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:58:20
does it make much difference is it expensive to run how long do u need it on for sorry for all ??? got a chance of getting one on freecycle but don't want it if it is going to be no good
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 20:58:45
Cannot tell you how green it is - although you could check the Energy Eff Rating, but ours does speed up the drying a treat (and stops our very damp house getting worse, into the bargain). It also handily heats the air in the rooms up a few degrees so saves on heating in the winter grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumonthenet on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:00:42
In my experience it certainly helps dry washing which is damp.

Must be greener than a tumble drier, surely?

It has no element to heat up..
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:01:27
Depends what sort of dehumidifier it is, as to how much energy it uses.

An industrial strength one would definately use more energy (and be farking noisy too)
An old one would most likely use more energy, but you really need to know what make and model so you can check the Energy Efficiency Rating (ok so i'm assuming dehums have one?) online or something.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:03:14
Anyway you slice it, you have to factor that the specific heat capacity of water is 4200 J/kgK, and the specific latent heat of vaporisation is 2.26MJ/kg.

Nothing is free and easy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyjjbaby on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:03:28
oh right haven't a clue how old it is sounds old cos it has got brown plastic casing dunno weather to get it or not i'm fed up of waiting days for my washing to dry but it does dry eventually
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumonthenet on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:09:43
squeaky what are you on about? grin

no, seriously I am interested, cos I live in Southern Portugal where it is damp and chilly in the winter but not so cold that you really need loads of CH. We use a dehumidifier and the house def feels drier, warmer and more comfortable.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:11:21
The Science.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:11:26
Ok i've quickly tried to find out if they have EERs and i couldn't find any. It sounds like a fairly old model, but having said that my mum has one with wooden casing on it, and it still does the biz. I am not and never have claimed to be particularly eco-friendly though!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:16:18
They take much less electricty to than a tumble drier an is therefore a lot more economical to run. They have cooling agent, so it suck damp air in, cool it down so the water goes into a container, and air is let back out without humidity or any water content. My parents have one in the laundry room, it dries laundry quicly. Hang in the morning, dry by evening.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:18:23
And no chemicals to make it smell better!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Yurtgirl on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:19:50
We found ours a complete waste of £100 odd, tumble dryer much better - actually dries the washing, not eco friendly but if the heating isnt on the washing does at least dry!
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Bramshott on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:19:54
Yes, they definitely help it to dry quicker (best in a small room) and are cheaper than a tumble drier to run. You do have them on for longer than a tumble drier though.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:20:38
What cooling agent sucks the damp air in?

Really, there is no such thing as a free lunch. If you are going ot do anything other than dry outside, you have to pay in some way for the cost of heating water and evaporating it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:22:55
Except, Squeaky, that you aren't heating the water up or evaporating it with a dehum - it collects in the bottom of the machine and you use it to water the garden/houseplants etc.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumonthenet on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:23:56
but Squeaky...are you saying that the dehumidifier actually heats the water before condensing it? Surely not.... it cools it doesn't it?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:23:57
You are not heating water to evaporate. There is a fan that sucks the air in, this runs on electricty. the cooling agent converts humid air to water and dry air.
We cant dry outside where i live, we have 6-7 months of snow.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:01
All you have is a fan. You need much less electricity to run a fan than to run a tumble drier. Most tumble drier has no higher energy rating than B.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By mumonthenet on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:06
yes, it's great for the iron or the plants.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyjjbaby on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:08
hmm think i won't bother manged without one b4 so can carrying on as i am thanks for help
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:38
Umm, how dowes the water magically collect in teh bottom of the humidifier?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:40
Umm, how dowes the water magically collect in teh bottom of the humidifier?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:55
Yes, and you can reuse the water. I water the plants with it.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:25:59
sorry about the typos
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:26:48
What is the cooling agent, QS?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:27:02
It is not magic. It is science. I can ask my father, he has been selling and repairing such units for large parts of his adult life, or my sister who is a refridgeration engineer, if you must know the exact details. grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:28:48
It depends on the unit. And the age of the unit.
You find similar coolants in fridges and freezers.

I would be hesitant to use a very old unit, as the coolant may be old, and it is not great if there is a leak. Some of the older coolants are best kept in a sealed environment. They are not as friendly to the environment as the more modern ones.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:28:52
Refrigeration is not free - it is actually quite energy intensive.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:29:33
oooo, the dreaded chlorofluorocarbons!!!!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:29:39
And thereabouts end my knowledge on the subject lol! I am about to start researching myself, as I want one instead of tumbledrier!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:30:31
this is how it works

Erm, it does, yes Squeaky, have a heating coil in it - but only to heat the air back to it's original temperature. The water collects in the bucket at the bottom because it condenses inside the machine.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:31:17
Here, found this site in English, the manufacturer is Dantherm
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:31:28
Hey i may not know everything but i can admit when i'm wrong not entirely right grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By spicemonster on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:31:52
I love my dehumidifier. I got it because I had a burst pipe but now it just sorts out a steamy bathroom and laundry and general all round damp
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:32:03
The condensation principle:
The humid air passes through an evaporator, where the water vapour condenses on a cold surface and drops into the water container. The cooled air passes through the condenser leaving the return air drier and several degrees warmer.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:32:21
x post!
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By SqueakyPop on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:32:59
Well, it's an air conditioner (of course, I already knew this). Most people have views as to the energy efficiency of ACs.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By GodzillasGhastlyPutridBumcheek on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:34:44
LOL - Squeaky...i thought you were having a dig at my obviously inferior intelligence (you weren't, were you? Paranoia again). (Or is it paranoia if it's true?).
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QuintessentialShadow on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:35:39
I used to hang my washing out in London. But this is not really possible across the artic circle, except for July and August maybe. I need a solution for year round drying, and I want a solution that is better for the environment than a tumble drier.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By callmeovercautious on Tue 21-Oct-08 21:54:26
You need an Owl. It measures the energy being used in your house.

So you dry a load in the dryer and record the time and increase in power usage. Then you dry a similar load in the small room with the dehumidifier. and see the difference.

We have found our dryer is actually less expensive to run than turning up the heating. It suprised me quite alot.

Warning - this gadget is addictive and makes you iron at superspeed grin
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By babyjjbaby on Tue 21-Oct-08 22:12:20
oh i would love one of them one day i will be able to arrord one


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