This is the pushy parent Tiffin tutor thread.

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uwila Mon 22-Jan-07 13:28:06

Okay, so wh ohas used a Tiffin tutor? Did it get your kid(s) into Tiffin? How old were they when they strted tutoring?

Okay, so my DD is only 3 1/2 but I like to plan ahead/. I've heard you can sign up for tutors that increase your chances of getting into Tiffin (boys and girls schools).

Any experience/opinions welcome.

Thanks.

Ladymuck Tue 03-Dec-13 16:34:57

I'm desperately trying to remember what uwila namechanged to? Would be intrigued to know where she ended up!

CecilyP Tue 03-Dec-13 16:18:18

Yes, this thread started so long ago that OP's then 3.5 year old DD will be going to secondary school next September.

Ladymuck Tue 03-Dec-13 16:13:22

The famous Mrs W that Celia referred to (nearly 7 years ago - where does the time go!) has since retired I'm afraid. Also the Tiffin Girls exams changed format significantly last year coinciding with the introduction of (an enormous) catchment area.

londonirishmum Tue 03-Dec-13 15:54:31

Hello Celia,

I would really love to have the contact details of that Tiffin tutor you mentioned on one of your threads. You kindly mentioned to one mum that if she wanted the name she could "CAT" you - but forgive me as this is my first MN message, so I don't know what CAT means?

Any help would be hugely appreciated!

Golgo13 Wed 20-Mar-13 06:18:46

@Learn about Light : You could say that the "well-known" Tiffin tutors have picked up a trick from Tiffin itself. If you select only the brightest, your outcomes are almost bound to be the best.
People then transfer the credit from the student to the tutor, and a self-sustaining brand is born.

LearnAboutLight Sun 03-Mar-13 23:13:48

I have a DD1 now in year 8 at the girls' school and can vouch for its well rounded nature. I have a conspiracy theory about tutors which is that they only accept children who would have got even without tutors. Of course, there are strategies for answering verbal, non-verbal, maths and english tests but to get your child up to speed on these strategies are not beyond the grasp of intelligent parents. Child must accept circa 80 mins each day from Year 5 as practice is gold. Some exam practice over the summer holidays would also be beneficial and this can be bought from conventional tuition providers. I hope I am right as I have a DS1 in Y5 who will take the exam in September 13. He is hoping for Tiffin Boys but we would also be happy with the Slough consortium schools.

zoffany51 Fri 01-Mar-13 12:38:00

@ODC "I only have DS so I do hope that Tiffin Boys is not quite as bad as that. I would be interested in your (or other's) views before we give it a go next entry point." DS1 is at TS; what info do you want to know about the school? smile

potatoprinter Tue 26-Feb-13 20:32:40

Londongirl5, I am sorry you had such a bad time at TGS. My daughter is in year 12 and some of your comments sound familiar.

I especially agree about the school being unable to deal with conflict and bullying; I have personal experience of an incident when the victim was blamed and the perpetrators believed. My DD reports there is a lot of cliqueness and bitchiness in Sixth Form.

My impression was that the pressure for grades comes from other girls (parents?). The teachers I spoke to didn't seem bothered if DD got an A or A*. Yes, a lot seem to be tutored. Some of the teaching is quite lazy and I think teachers at my younger child's comp try a lot harder.

However, on the whole I think TGS has been a good school for my DD. She wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes at the local comp where DD2 goes. The rules in the local comp are a lot more stringent than TGS believe me. She did have the option of moving for Sixth Form but decided to stay on.

OhDearConfused Tue 26-Feb-13 14:07:34

Thank you for that view, LondonGirl, and sorry you had such a bad time of it. I have heard it said before about Tiffin Girls.

I only have DS so I do hope that Tiffin Boys is not quite as bad as that. I would be interested in your (or other's) views before we give it a go next entry point.

ODC

londongirl5 Sun 24-Feb-13 15:08:00

I just left Tiffin Girls' School and I'm so glad I did! They only girls they allow into the school are either extremely clever, or extremely hard-working (at their tutors). This means that all the girls going to the school will get good grades at GCSE and A Level naturally. Therefore, as all girls will do well anyway, the teachers don't need to bother teaching them properly. The teachers see their only job as making sure every girl gets an A* in everything which leaves no room for creativity, or even a thing called fun, which you don't seem to hear about at Tiffin. The rules are ridiculous, the workload is unbearable, their methods of dealing with bullying are non-existent. Everybody I knew at the school with me hated it and it seems like a massive taboo that the school is, in fact, awful. Now I'm at college my eyes have been opened to the REAL world and I am happier, enjoying working, and making friends with normal people. I just wish I'd never gone to Tiffin in the first place.
Message me for details.

Schmedz Sat 26-Jan-13 21:09:05

Even with all the tutoring in the world, the reality is that at TGS there are well over 10 applicants for every place. This means that over 90% of applicants will be not eligible for a place.
TGS does not have a monopoly on A* grades or Oxbridge success. Many of the girls who 'fail' their entrance exams will end up doing brilliantly well at another school.
My daughter did appallingly on the VR and NVR papers for this year's TGS entrance exam and has just received two scholarship offers to fantastic Indie schools to which she applied (no tutoring...just plain hard work on her maths and English and around 10 practice papers for the VR and NVR tests)
Of course, the best advantage to TGS is that there are no compulsory school fees!
If you really feel Tiffin is the best school for your child then all the best of luck in preparing (as much as possible to prepare for their tests) but after having taught there and spoken to many girls who go there, it is not the be all and end all of schooling. SOOOOO many excellent options in this region.

Muminwestlondon Mon 14-Jan-13 13:37:54

I would head over to eleven plus exams. Though I think parents agreed not to post until the last tests had been done, not sure if that is now or when the results are out.

Strix Mon 14-Jan-13 08:04:09

turing tutoring

Strix Mon 14-Jan-13 08:03:31

Can I bump this for some more recent experience with the turing and tests... especially as they have changed.

Muminwestlondon Fri 04-Jan-13 11:17:12

The second test is currently an unknown quantity as this was the first year it was run. I have heard that the hairdressers in Ham Parade (don't know name - I think there are two) are a good source of info about Tiffin tutors and gossip but I cannot verify it! Just an anecdote from another parent!

kookeethecutey Fri 04-Jan-13 00:07:59

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

MrsRobertDuvallHasRosacea Mon 17-Sep-12 10:36:56

Heard, not ad.

MrsRobertDuvallHasRosacea Mon 17-Sep-12 10:36:44

Beingfluffy.....best thing I've ad on MN today.
"unicorns frolicking in rainbow meadows'

Should be adopted by the school for the website.

chickydoo Sun 16-Sep-12 23:20:19

It's not that great. My Ds 2 was offered a place, we turned it down.

Yellowtip Sun 16-Sep-12 23:17:55

Fluffy so how have GCSE results changed over those five or so years? Do you have that info? Any change?

breadandbutterfly Sun 16-Sep-12 22:51:40

Great post,BeingFluffy.

BeingFluffy Sun 16-Sep-12 17:43:37

I have reported your post. There is an ads section if you want to post there but you have to pay.

What is it about bloody Tiffin that attracts charlatans trying to get the gullible to part with their money? My dd goes to Tiffin Girls and it is just a school! Not some mythical place with unicorns frolicking in rainbow meadows next to the school. Some girls like it, some hate it. It gets great results because the intake is very clever. The teaching is not different and probably worse than some schools.

The exam has changed this year at the girls school, so no one should know the best way to prepare - it is all a matter of conjecture.

perfectparent1 Sun 16-Sep-12 17:24:05

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BeingFluffy Mon 23-Jul-12 14:26:33

My DD is in an upper year at Tiffin Girls', several of her contemporaries were tutored by the legendary Mrs W. Many others had some form of tutoring. DD can identify a few girls who appear to have got in because of good tutoring rather than natural ability.

DD got in by practising at home, but I did find out the necessary info from elevenplusexams. In those days to get it you needed somewhere over 85%, now I believe it is well into the 90%s. I doubt many get in nowadays without intensive preparation. Ironically I think the unintended result of elevenplusexams has been to raise the bar so high, that you have to be very able and well tutored to get in.

I think the exam changes at TGS to include maths and English may have the undesired effect of making the tutoring even more intense. I would be happy if they changed to a simple aptitude test that no one could prepare for.

TheWomanOnTheBus Mon 23-Jul-12 13:22:44

... I recently heard of a poor little girl who had been tutored for 3 years and hadn't got in after twice a week tutoring (she was not even close).

This is one of the reasons I've opted out of this hysteria. Its just crazy. Tutoring may (or may not!) make much of a difference, but can you imagine the disappointment on all sides if after 2, 3, or even 4 years of tutoring, there is still a failure.

The NVR/VR needed for Tiffin Boys (I know girls is different) is so educationally irrelevant except to pass the test, that there is simply no other benefit in tutoring for it. (Tutoring for English / Maths of course not so - it could produce long-term benefits and may be worth doing in its own right.)

If you look at the 11+ forum website you can go mad or get swept up in his hyseteria. For my part, I'm convinced that many of the people who post there (and some that post here) are (i) tutors; or (ii) moderators with a vested interest in selling practice papers. Of course, its all portrayed as helpful support. hmm.

Just witness the desperate pleas on this thread for phone numbers of Mrs X, Y, or Z (not forgetting Mrs or Ms W).... Crazy - but I've already said that.

For my part, we will give it a go. We will practice a few 11+ papers nearer the time under timed conditions. If he gets in, great smile, maybe we will take it up. If he doesn't, disappointing sad but no so disappointing as it would have been had we made the same investment in "tutoring" that that poor little girl had.

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