Men's Issues.

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Backonthefence Sat 16-Nov-13 21:34:06

This is dadsnet you have made the same post on a number of threads why? Dadsnet threads don't exactly move fast.

SagaciousOne Sat 16-Nov-13 11:34:10

I'm sorry I keep reposting this in several threads but only because I want to challenge the notion that only women are victims

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Domestic violence

More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals
Campaign group Parity claims assaults by wives and girlfriends are often ignored by police and media

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Denis Campbell
The Observer, Sunday 5 September 2010
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DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BY WOMEN AGAINST MEN
Assaults on men represent more than 40% of domestic violence in the UK. Photograph: Sakki/Rex Features/Sakki/rex

About two in five of all victims of domestic violence are men, contradicting the widespread impression that it is almost always women who are left battered and bruised, a new report claims.

Men assaulted by their partners are often ignored by police, see their attacker go free and have far fewer refuges to flee to than women, says a study by the men's rights campaign group Parity.

The charity's analysis of statistics on domestic violence shows the number of men attacked by wives or girlfriends is much higher than thought. Its report, Domestic Violence: The Male Perspective, states: "Domestic violence is often seen as a female victim/male perpetrator problem, but the evidence demonstrates that this is a false picture."

Data from Home Office statistical bulletins and the British Crime Survey show that men made up about 40% of domestic violence victims each year between 2004-05 and 2008-09, the last year for which figures are available. In 2006-07 men made up 43.4% of all those who had suffered partner abuse in the previous year, which rose to 45.5% in 2007-08 but fell to 37.7% in 2008-09.

Similar or slightly larger numbers of men were subjected to severe force in an incident with their partner, according to the same documents. The figure stood at 48.6% in 2006-07, 48.3% the next year and 37.5% in 2008-09, Home Office statistics show.

The 2008-09 bulletin states: "More than one in four women (28%) and around one in six men (16%) had experienced domestic abuse since the age of 16. These figures are equivalent to an estimated 4.5 million female victims of domestic abuse and 2.6 million male victims."

In addition, "6% of women and 4% of men reported having experienced domestic abuse in the past year, equivalent to an estimated one million female victims of domestic abuse and 600,000 male victims".

Campaigners claim that men are often treated as "second-class victims" and that many police forces and councils do not take them seriously. "Male victims are almost invisible to the authorities such as the police, who rarely can be prevailed upon to take the man's side," said John Mays of Parity. "Their plight is largely overlooked by the media, in official reports and in government policy, for example in the provision of refuge places – 7,500 for females in England and Wales but only 60 for men."

The official figures underestimate the true number of male victims, Mays said. "Culturally it's difficult for men to bring these incidents to the attention of the authorities. Men are reluctant to say that they've been abused by women, because it's seen as unmanly and weak."

The number of women prosecuted for domestic violence rose from 1,575 in 2004-05 to 4,266 in 2008-09. "Both men and women can be victims and we know that men feel under immense pressure to keep up the pretence that everything is OK," said Alex Neil, the housing and communities minister in the Scottish parliament. "Domestic abuse against a man is just as abhorrent as when a woman is the victim

madas Tue 02-Oct-12 22:27:14

Well i was scratching my balls whilst picking fluff out of my navel, ooo look i can multitask.

Technoviking Tue 02-Oct-12 15:54:49

As a man, I have to say I don't think I've given any of those issues much thought.

Does that count as an issue in itself? Or is my itchy arse distracting me?

Mypopcornface Mon 01-Oct-12 21:54:40
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Somebloke Mon 01-Oct-12 21:39:37

"And some men use tongs when weeing." hmm

But, but but... where do you put the tongs once you've finished? Is there a special pocket in your manbag for that? Should I have a manbag? Have I been doing it wrong all this time?

SigmundFraude Sat 29-Sep-12 17:45:32

Away from clean anuses for a moment wink

Boys underperforming in schools is a big concern.

getmorenappies Fri 28-Sep-12 23:16:45

And some men use tongs when weeing

yeah, only at the parties you go to mate ;)

I usually clean dd's ( 3 years old ) arse with baby wet wipes.

I've got to admit i do try it myself sometimes. blush. For that extra clean feel grin

I think the French bday is the way forwards. I mean who wouldn't want to swish their tackle in a pool of warm water after doing the business ?

TiggyD Fri 28-Sep-12 20:36:57

And some men use tongs when weeing.

Lifeispainless Fri 28-Sep-12 20:27:58

'And hygiene in general - I know plenty of men who don't wash their hands after going to the toilet. Women usually do, despite the fact that only men touch themselves in the process.'

How do you know that?

TiggyD Fri 28-Sep-12 18:05:07

I'm a Lindt eater myself.

Testicular cancer? I can't check everybody!

Shaving.

BedHog Fri 28-Sep-12 12:09:29

And hygiene in general - I know plenty of men who don't wash their hands after going to the toilet. Women usually do, despite the fact that only men touch themselves in the process.

Chocolate? confused Presumably you mean men are marketed the vile tasting Yorkie, while the women get the far tastier and superior Galaxy?

Lifeispainless Thu 27-Sep-12 21:45:07

I think, you're over thinking it.

PanofOlympus Thu 27-Sep-12 19:42:41

No, not at all. Statistically it's v clear. And not surprising. More hair follicles to be infected, less u/wear changes, less bathing/cleaning etc, more sweating generally, less air movement than wearing skirts/dresses (excepting Tiggy obv) wearing semi-'plastic' trousers (polyester etc), wearing 'heavier' u/wear than women's knickers etc., more anal sex (though vastly over-reported in the gay community).

Okaaaay??

Lifeispainless Thu 27-Sep-12 16:42:25

Anal Hygiene is a male issue?

Or are you talking out of your arse?

BedHog Wed 26-Sep-12 12:10:19

grin

getmorenappies Wed 26-Sep-12 09:34:03

I'd love to eavesdrop on a Parliamentary discussion about unhygienic anuses (anii?

Well they do like to talk about themselves often......

< morfs into Basil Brush > boom boom !

BedHog Tue 25-Sep-12 18:02:27

I'd love to eavesdrop on a Parliamentary discussion about unhygienic anuses (anii?) grin

BelfastBloke Tue 25-Sep-12 17:31:22

Care to elaborate, Pan?

getmorenappies Tue 25-Sep-12 13:19:41

yeah, Pan's nailed it grin

PanofOlympus Mon 24-Sep-12 21:55:19

Chocolate
Social conditioning
The Colour Pink
Emotional development
Breasts
Domestic Violence
MRA/mra
Willingness to ask for help
Hitting each other
Valuing oneself
Dinner table etiquette
Gender boundaries
Physical health/fitness
Cock size
Spirituality
Relationship with children
Relationship with parents
Anal hygiene

Lifeispainless Mon 24-Sep-12 10:53:47

I agree and getting rid of the 'man up' and 'grow a pair' ethos would be a good idea.

BedHog Mon 24-Sep-12 10:33:10

Well the suicide issue can be helped by getting rid of the ridiculous 'stiff upper lip - boys don't cry' nonsense, so men suffering from mental health problems or struggling with the pressures of life in general feel that they can access the help they need without being judged.

Flexible working I think would help women too, so that's an issue for everyone.

And paternity leave - yes two weeks is a bit short, but any changes shouldn't be to the detriment of maternity leave.

Other issues....Access to children when relationships break down? Lack of development of male contraception, other than condoms or vasectomies? Strict dress codes in business and schools that don't apply so harshly to females?

Lifeispainless Mon 24-Sep-12 10:22:31

Inspired by a thread in the feminism section.
And as I don't want to be called an MRA, not that I really see that as an insult, I thought I'd start it here.

What are Men's issues today?

One for me is that men are three times more likely to commit suicide.

Flexible working and paternity leave is another.

Any more? And how can they be resolved?

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