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Thread for sufferers of recurrent miscarriage

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OracleInaCoracle · 29/02/2008 13:56

There seems to be a few of us, so thought i'd start a support thread.

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LieselVonTrapp · 29/02/2008 14:15

There is a topic for this under Miscarriage/Bereavement

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OracleInaCoracle · 29/02/2008 14:51

is there? righty ho...

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ClairePO · 29/02/2008 15:44

Tell me to keep my nose out if you like as I have not suffered recurrent mc's but I don't think it hurts to have one in here too if that's what people want. Not trying to fall out with anyone just a thought.

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herbaceous · 29/02/2008 16:07

I think it would be good to have one here, too. Very much to do with conception, after all.

i could even get the ball rolling. Me, 42, four MCs since 2005, one six weeks, two at 11 and one at 13. The last two were chromosonal problems, but I don't know what caused the others. Had all the blood tests done under the sun, and was prescribed steroids by one doctor, who reckoned I had elevated killer cells, though this is a controversial diagnosis and theory.

For some reason feeling quite optimistic, if I ever get up the duff again (a year since last MC) as surely it can't happen to me again. But that's what I thought last time...

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OracleInaCoracle · 29/02/2008 18:08

tbh, i thought so too. after all, its not all about the mc's.

Im 30, 1 ds who we spent 3y ttc. pretty sure that i had at least 2 early mcs before he was conceived and have since had 7 mc's all between 4 and 7 weeks and 1 ep. no explanation, under LWH now and toying with having NK cells test.

on the verge of giving up but cant seem to take that step.

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Blahmode · 01/03/2008 21:10

I'm feeling optimistic too herbaceous. Me: ttc no 1 at 43. Had m/c in March 07 @ 14 weeks, m/c in July 07 @ 8 weeks and m/c Oct 07 @ 6 weeks. Saw Melanie Davies at UCH in Jan and been ttc since as tests all good. Job quite stressful & trying to chill out. Had acupuncture since Oct which has lengthened LP by 1 day. Been recommended Chinese herbs but not sure whether I want these yet. This site has actually been a lifeline for my sanity throughout & been the only real way I have found out anything; had hardly any info from NHS or specialists.

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OracleInaCoracle · 01/03/2008 23:16

they really do just ice over recurrent mc dont they? at LWH the consultant showed me this chart which said that after 5mc's my odds of having another dc was 71%. I asked if it decreased with subsequent mc's and he ummed and ahed and didnt really answer.

still, i feel ok this month!

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HeidiS · 02/03/2008 20:18

I?m 30 and hubby and I have been ttc for a year and a half now (we have a 4 year old that was conceived the same month I stopped taking the pill)
In that year and a half I?ve been pregnant 3 times and still no baby We get pregnant fairly easily but I can?t seem to stay that way. Last summer I was pregnant with twins. I miscarried the first at about 6 weeks and then the second stopped developing at about 11 weeks and I had to have a d&c. Fell pregnant again and had another miscarriage at about 7 weeks ? thankfully no d&c needed. Got pregnant for the third time but had to have another d&c at 10 weeks after saw no heart beat and my beta wasn?t at right level and cells not at right size.
After the third miscarriage the doctors were finally willing to say there might be a problem and let?s start taking some tests.
I did the whole thrombosis/blood clotting set of tests, then the trans-chromosome genetic test (and a few more genetic tests like sma and ms) and they did a hysteroscopy. The doc who did it said there was a small place on one side of the uterine wall that was a bit stuck together but not enough to justify 3 miscarriages ? but he opened it anyway.
After the hysteroscopy the specialist sat me down and said we?ve now tested for everything we know how to test for. Technically your chances of conceiving and carrying a baby are still about 60% - which is not bad doesn?t sound too brilliant to me. And in his words ?we can?t do anything for, go home and try to make a baby. If you do fall pregnant come and see me ? not that I?ll be able to do anything then either ? but it might make you feel better?
And that?s where things stand. With me feeling pretty lost and depressed and stressed ? which is not exactly conducive to baby making
lissielou ? I wonder why our docs quoted such different stats ? 71% sounds pretty good?better than the 60% that my doc gave me after my 3 mc?s
One of my friends had a beautiful little baby girl yesterday?I?m trying very hard not to think woe is me

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OracleInaCoracle · 02/03/2008 21:22

thats strange heidi.

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Emmsy1 · 03/03/2008 05:55

hello girls, its really heartbreaking reading some of your stories, I wish you all the luck and success in the world, especially you lissielou, I take my hat off to you, the courage and determination you show after so many miscarriages

I am a very lucky lady, I have 4 beautiful children. I had a mc back in 2000 a blighted ovum, which was discovered at approx 9 & 1/2 weeks. I have also had two recurrent miscarriages 1 in April 07 and 1 in September 07. I am currently pregnant and today am 29 days past ovulation (the last miscarriage happened at 29 days past O)I am still very worried that this bean may not stick and definately wont try again if it doesn't. But as I pointed out before I am lucky to already have 4 children, best wishes to all.X

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HeidiS · 03/03/2008 09:26

Lissielou - what's LWH? And what does NK cells testing involve?
I'm also O- and hubby is A+ - so I keep having blood tests to make sure I'm not making antibodies vs any babies.
The whole thing is driving me quite mad - I used to be able to set my clock by my ms but since I had that first d&c it's been all over the place...
Was a few days late this montha and started getting all excited over a false alarm.
Even if we do conceive I'm going to be a nervous wreck until I make it to 9months

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Dropdeadfred · 03/03/2008 11:08

I have 3 dds. 2 were with a previous partner and i had no problems conceiving or carrying them.
DP and I have tried and tried for a baby..and eventually after 4 mcs we were blessed with a little girl nearly three years ago now. Since we had her we have tried and failed to have another 9so far) and have had 2 further mcs...

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OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 15:24

a few of us now...

heidi, LWH is liverpool womens hospital. they have a fab recurrent mc unit. the NK cells test means taking a sample of the endometrial layer and rules out (or in) antibodies attacking the foetus.

bit pissed off today. fed up of everyone else thinking "ooh, shall we have a baby" and bang! and fed up of people asking if we are planning any more.

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HeidiS · 03/03/2008 16:07

lissielou - oh hun, I'm so with you on that. Only what's pissed me off especially in the past week is people looking at our dd and saying things like "what - only one - why haven't you/aren't you/don't you want another one" - or "come on, you better hurry up and work on the next one"
I know none of the people know we're having problems and it's not intentional. But damn people, talk about salt in the wound.

re. the NK test - why do they need to take a sample from the endometrial for that? Is it becuase you're also RH - ? Becuase I've just been having coombs (sp?) blood tests for that

you also said you had one ep - what's that? seriously, is there a page with acronyms that I was supposed to study?

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OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 17:30

lol, most of the ancronyms are made up. an ep is an ectopic pregnancy.

the sample shows the level of NK cells more clearly than blood tests. its different to RH bloods because the cells live in the endometrial layer.

i now flit between "we had sex last night, i stuck my bum in the air and my CM was nice and watery, so maybe we'll get a sticky one, eh?" and telling them in graphic detail what we've been through. normally shuts the feckers up!

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HeidiS · 03/03/2008 17:43

lmao
maybe i should try that with my awful mil

my 3rd m/c was a suspected ep. at first they couldn't find anything - so they put me in hospital. then they found something small went in and d&c'ed me and said that's that. Then i started getting calls from the hospital saying they tested the stuff they took out and it wasn't what they were wanting - and my beta was about 16 - so they wanted me back in the hospital...they sent me for yet another blood test (when i started all this i was terrified of needles) and my beta had thankfully fallen below 3 and they didn't need to do the whole shove a camera through my bellybutton thing. After all that the docs just said that where ever i had whatever...my body seemed to have taken care of it so i cold go home...
I tell, these docs don't exactly inspire confidence
I'm starting to think of going in a different direction...going to a tarot card reader and letting her tell me when to shag my poor hubby (who has gotten very good about being woken up in the middle of the night and told to saddle up) or maybe I'll try dancin' nekked out under the stars...chanting something...something fertile - hell, at the moment I'm ready to try anything...can you tell?

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OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 17:46

loli read a book by Jane Green called babyville pre-ds and in it a woman does a fertility dance and gets her dp to carry juniper berries in his pocket, oh how i laughed...

i am on the brink though....

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OliviaJournalist · 03/03/2008 17:57

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FrannyandZooey · 03/03/2008 17:57

Olivia my dear, you are spamming the board

just put one request in (pay your fee to MN) then leave it

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OracleInaCoracle · 03/03/2008 18:00

thanks franny, olivia just pop it in requests. will have to report your post im afraid but will speak to you on a different thread.

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HeidiS · 04/03/2008 16:34

I'm gonna think positive this month!

For the first time since before my very first pregnancy my period is behaving...

In a few more days we're gonna start trying and I may just do some of that dancing

Who else here is using their fingers to count off the days 'til they think they're O'ing?

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mistlethrush · 04/03/2008 16:52

Can I join too? Hi Lissie we seem to have been on the same thread before...

3 mc - one prior to ds (now 2.10) - turned out to be mp so not allowed to try for dc for a year after treatment stopped - so ds took 6 yrs to eventually arrive after starting to try. 2 mc since - both autumn - 06 and 07 - 06 took a long time to get back to normal and scared s*less that mp coming back - dh put off trying, so quite difficult to ttc without full cooperation. He's not been so bad since last summer, despite mc in Oct.

Recently been referred - had all blood tests done, waiting for the results - appointment April (they took an armful)(mind you, it took 5 attempts to get any from dh )

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OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2008 18:43

hi mistlethrush, cant imagine what a mp must be like

heidi, im counting down days til af's due (thurs) i will NOT test before.

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HeidiS · 04/03/2008 18:45

Hi mistlethrush

Ouch on all the blood tests - poor hubby - 5 attempts

Sorry - need to raise my newbie hand and and ask...what's mp and dc?

sigh

seriously...isn't there a cheatsheet somewhere?

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OracleInaCoracle · 04/03/2008 18:55

mp= molar pregnancy
dc= dear children.

after a few weeks you'll ber thinking in anacronyms

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