The Elderberry Pavlovas- All aboard the Berrycopter. Thread 14

[funkymonk]

The smallprint - Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 3+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooh we are strict...please note your house may be at risk if you do not keep up repayments lol

[Bunnygirlie]

did I make it?!?

Apart from current members, I think we should change the rules to 6 months plus! Ooh aren't I mean!

[Boodle9]

Good evening! Just bagging a good spot, but can't stick around as I have lots of work to get on with ready for tomorrow!

[PuppyMummy]

Best mark my place.

merk agree midwives and bake off tonight although not live for me. Love bake off, love Paul Hollywood!

[Bunnygirlie]

Hmmmm not sure about midwives, any good?!? Doesn't it just make us Berries jealous and crazy?!?

[barkingtreefrog]

Just marking a spot but not like my dog does.

I don't think that's mean Bunny, I tend to regard anyone who diffed within a year of trying as an instadiffer!

[BlindKitty]

bunny it was Midwives that I was talking about last week. Not sure about this week but last week was filmed at the hospital where I'm having my fertility treatment, and subsequent baby (please God)! fantasises about midwives being MY midwives!

bunny happy not long til your appointments now. happy are you going to tell the consultant that you're having a break?

Sid sounds like your consultant has been very thorough. The clomid is prob worth a try but glad there not making you wait too long for your IVF

So been for more acupuncture tonight...managed not to squish any pigeons this time!

[Gillster]

Sounds like the FC appointment was promising Sid. This was in contrast to my FC appointment yesterday. To be fair, we were only there for blood tests and day 5 dildocam for me. The annoying part was that I went the loo after the scan and the radiographer was rushing so gave DH the results without me being there. DH said that "my count was good", unfortunately he was unable to elaborate as he didn't clarify what she meant. I assume the radiographer was referring to my follicles? Was pretty cross that DH hadn't asked more questions (cue row) and also cross that she just rushed off when I was in loo. She also said it would be 12 weeks. 12 weeks to what??? Treatment? Chat with consultant? Another row ensued with DH as at least it would be good to know whether we should book flights to a USA wedding at end of December but again we're in limbo. I suppose I could try and call although DH said he would try and clarify when he goes for his jizz test in a couple of weeks. Rant over!

[Bunnygirlie]

Agreed then, new recruits need to have been trying 6 months plus!

A girl I know who has had awful TTC problems had a friend recently tell her - oh it was awful, it took us 4 months, I thought it was never going to happen!

Hands up if you would have lunched her?!?!?

Yep kitty the FC appt countdown has begun! It's also CD23!

[Bunnygirlie]

Oh gill so sorry you had a bad appt, how awful that they didn't give you the results! Don't they know men are useless and don't ask questions!!!

[CatsCantFlyFast]

Gill no wonder you are cross. I would phone them as I suspect he will not know all the detailed questions to ask
Arf at lunched them! Is that a cross between punching and lynching??

[Bunnygirlie]

Not sure who started with the lunching?!?

[yorkiebilb]

Marking my spot. Hi everyone!

gill I'm so annoyed for you that she gave the results without waiting for you to come back. That's just rude! I'd ring up if I was you. Grrr on your behalf.

sid so pleased to hear you sounding a bit more positive after your fc appt last night. Will be interesting to hear what they say at the NHS appt and if the recommendations are any different.

Yes bunny I would have definitely lunched her!

[Pipbin]

Evening ladies, just dropping in to mark my place.
No news here at Chez Bin. Back to work today, told the head about failed IVF and he was lovely about it. Said that I can take whatever time is needed for appointments etc. Looks like I won't be back IVFing for about 6 months though.

Yes I agree with 6 months + anything under that counts as an insterdiffer in my book.

[RevoltingPeasant]

Can I still be in, even though we have technically only been trying since May?

Proffers and also random as bribes. Very, very random bribes.

Talked to DM last night as she also has a retro cervix, and asked if she'd had any trouble conceiving. Oh no, she said, it always happened the first month... Except with DSis4 (when she was 40) and then it took a couple of months.

Right.... So, just me then!

Also, since I'm trespassing on everyone's foodwill anyway, can I please ask something which is totally, totally tmi....?

[Pipbin]

Ask away. I'm so far down the IVF trail that nothing can shock me now.

[RevoltingPeasant]

Thanks... Okay so DH and I dtd last night successfully for what I thnk may be the 4th time, ever. He has bad ED and the meds to fix it give him nasty side effects so we don't bother with normalpeople sex when not ttc and even then it often doesn't work.

However, when he withdrew most of the spunk was on him, at cockbase and in his pubes. Does this mean it didn't go up properly?

I can't actually believe I am posting that on the internet, but I have very little shame these days...

[Pipbin]

One question, what is ED?

As for your question, the theory is that the ones are going to make it to the egg are good swimmers and will get there. So long as he was inside you when he came then you should be good. Has he had an SA?

True story for you, my best mate at school had a condition, the name of which escapes me but it was something like vagismus, which meant that the muscles of her vagina clamped shut when ever her boyfriend got near her. Therefore she wasn't able to really have penetrative sex. One day her and her boyfriend were doing everything like normal sex but without the actual penetration. Because of this they never really bothered with contraception. He came on the outside of her vagina, he never entered her at all. 9 months later .....................

[RevoltingPeasant]

Sorry, erectile dysfunction. So he has to take a Viagra like med to have sex. Or, "normal" sex as a dr once charmingly phrased it....

Thanks. I think that might help if I were young and dewy, but probably not now.

[Pipbin]

I see, must be rather un romantic.

• 'Darling I am ovulating and so we must have normal people sex'.
  
• 'Quick, to the bathroom cabinet and fetch the pills. Now we must sit and wait.'
  

Sorry to make light of the situation, after this long TTCing I have developed a rather gallows sense of humour.

As I said, so long as he was inside you at the time it should do the trick. Have you tried Conceive plus or Preseed?

[happylass]

Gah . Missed the shuttle due to being engrossed in Bake Off and Don't Tell the Bride.
No Kitty I don't think we'll tell the FC we're on a break in case they make us go away and come back later! Technically we are still having unprotected sex just not at the right time of the month
Gill how annoying about the radiographer!Sounds like my DP though - only gets half the story!!
Pip how come no more IVF for 6 months?
Have to confess I was on my 1st cycle of TTC when I joined the Berries! Think most people were in the fairly early stages then though and if I'm not mistaken many of the original grads were pretty much instadiffers. How things change . Look forward to the anniversary party next month though Bunny

[Pipbin]

They need to let your body have 6 months to get back to normal before starting again, unless you are over 38, then it's 3 months.

I think that the 'no insterdiffers' came from some of the early short term Berries.

[Boomgoestheweasel]

Just marking a spot..I may be in the copter for now but I need to keep an eye on all the berries so I can hoist you aboard when necessary!

[Thundercatsarego]

Hello berries,

I'm still here too.

sid and not sod as I keep inadvertently typing I'm glad the appointment was good and you had a consultant that you like and trust. So important!

pip 6 months sounds like a long time to wait although of course it could still happen in the meantime.

gill she gave your results to your DH and didn't even wait to see you??? That's terrible! I would be ringing up and having a word about that. And getting the full story.

Yep bunny I would have lunched her.

Actually I'm a bit ashamed to say this but I got really grumpy with a friend (quite distant friend really) over Skype yesterday. She was very openly getting frustrated when she got to cycle 3 without diffing, but was laughing at herself too. Then it worked that cycle and now she is 20 weeks. We were chatting about this and she asked about me and DP- she knows about my mmc last year. I'm not telling anyone that I got bfp for the moment so just made throwaway comment and she told us to JUST RELAX. I didn't handle it very graciously, lets just say that. And now I feel pretty bad. Trying to console myself with the thought that this might stop her from doing the same to another struggling lady - kind of like I'm actually a superhero in some way.....

[Boomgoestheweasel]

You're my superhero thunder. Instadiffers need to know how much saying stupid things like that makes a berry want to lunch them in the face. With a frying pan.

[yorkiebilb]

You're definitely my superhero thunder! It's amazing how she's conveniently forgotten how worried she was after only a few months. The 'just relax' comment is just so friggin annoying!