So ds just shit all over the carpet..........

[blondissimo]

Sorry for the post title - but he did!

He has had a rising temp since yesterday morning - I think Calpol is helping to bring it down, but not sure as my thermometer is crap - see my other thread. It will read 38.5 and then you take it again and it's 36.9. I am going by the higher readings and the fact that he feels like a furnace. He has shown no other symptoms until now, other than yesterday he was a lot sleepier than normal. Today he seems better in himself, but his temp at lunch was 39.

He has been farting a lot, and has just done the most enormous runny poo that came out the front, sides and back of his nappy, whilst sitting on the carpet. I wouldn't exactly call it diarrhoea as such, as it has not been frequent - in fact this is the first poo since yesterday morning. Do you think he might have a tummy upset and this is the cause of the temp? Or is it more likely a coincidence?

Also, is 39 high? I think I would be unsure at what point to take him to a doctor. I rang nhs direct yesterday and all they kept going on about was if he'd been in contact with anyone with swine flu (don't think he has). They also said that he only needs to be seen by a doc if the temp is consistently over 38.8 for at least 3 days.

He's my first child and I am a bit of a worrier, although been quite calm about this, but just confused[confused emoticon]!

[posiedullardparker]

Don't just calpol, try and reduce his temperature by removing clothing and opening windows.
If he's your first, and we all worry a little more about them, give your doctor a call. They will probably just reassure you but it'#s worth a go.

[amisuchabadmummy]

If he's better in himself I would just keep him cool as posie said, give calpol or medised and give bland food (sorry dont know how old he is).

See how he is tomorrow... but if he worsens at all or you are just really worried go to the doctors.

Ive been for ridiculous things for DS and their attitude has always been mums instinct is best and if you think it warrants seeing a doctor then go.

Dont worry about wasting their time, much more important to go and reassure yourself than he be really ill without you knowing.

[blondissimo]

Thanks posie - I have had the windows open but it there is currently a torrential thunderstorm going on so have had to shut them. I have him in just a t-shirt and a nappy, and at night in just a nappy and the thinnest grobag.
I was thinking I would give it another night and take him to the doctors in the morning, unless his temp rises further. I think I would have taken him already if he was showing other signs of illness, but he is eating and drinking well, wet nappies, smiling, playing etc.
I am sure children are sent as some sort of a test from above!

[amisuchabadmummy]

If he's acting like that Im sure he's on the road to recovery...

[blondissimo]

Sorry I should have said his age - he will be 1 next week.

[blondissimo]

Also what is the deal with the Calpol/Nurofen dosage? I have read a few threads on here about temps, and some say alternate them, some say not to as it will mask symptoms. Does anyone know what the current advice is, and how far apart to space them? Thanks.

[amisuchabadmummy]

I dont know about it masking symptoms but when DS has been bad I've alternated them... every two hours, so 12 o'clock nurofen dose, 2pm calpol dose. Dose according to the amount for your DS's age and make sure you check the maximum in 24 hours.

[blondissimo]

Thanks amisuchabadmummy. I have just given him the nurofen with his tea, so will give calpol at bedtime.

[blondissimo]

Oh I've just thought of another question - is there any chance this could be his teeth? He has been dribbling a lot recently and gnawing on stuff. He has 4 at the top and 2 bottom ones already so not sure which come in next. Do you think that the temp/sleepiness/runny bum is too extreme for teething? ? ?

[amisuchabadmummy]

Definitely could be his teeth. My DS had the same symptoms including the running bottom. I think the doctor told me its something to do with the excess saliva created by the teething that upsets their stomach.

Is he any better today?

[blondissimo]

Thanks for replying. His temp went down after the Nurofen and he was fine in bed til about 11 - then I gave him some more, but after I'd given it I realised you are not meant to give on an empty stomach! My dp said probably ok as would still have milk in his tummy from his bottle at 7. Anyway he went back to sleep til 2.30 then woke up and seemed a bit delirious - ie sitting up, lying down, back up, looked confused. Gave him calpol and few sips of a drink and he vomited it all up. So now unsure whether the sickness was from the Nurofen/Calpol, or if it's what is actually wrong with him IYSWIM.
No more vomiting, went back to sleep, but seems off his food today.
I have made a doctors appointment for midday so I can rule out an infection or anything.
Temp also staying at 38.5 after the calpol.

[amisuchabadmummy]

There's a lot of bugs going round at the moment but I think you've done the right thing making an appointment at the doctors.

Im sure its nothing, I remember from when my DS was little though how frightening it is though, especially when they are delirious.

Once he vomited five times in one night, towards the end just trying to vomit with nothing coming up. It was 5am and I was seriously contemplating A&E, took him to docs the next morning and he said it was a horrible bug. DS was fine a day or so later.

Let us know how you get on though.... Good luck.

[blondissimo]

Well I took him to the GP and he checked him over - looked at his throat and said it was very red and sore. He said he is obviously not well, and that's the reason for the temp, but nothing they can do. He told me to carry on with the Calpol, and to avoid the calprofen as that is likely to be what made him sick. (However I think it might just be the fact I gave him it on an empty stomach, so not sure whether or not to give him that at tea time?)
He didn't even take his temp - he says it's not how high or how long the temp, but how the child is. I suppose this is possibly the medical professions way of saying to use your instincts.
I am a bit confused though as to how he has this, yet neither me or dp have any symptoms. The only people he has been in contact with in the last week are myself, dp, another little boy who is 100% fine, and the nurse I took him to on Friday as he had been ear pulling a lot.
When I was sitting in the waiting room today, I heard the receptionist say to someone else that she was off sick.......
Hopefully not with swine flu!

[Meglet]

me again, apparently some rear facing seats have long legs than can reach to the floor of the car when the lid of the storage is removed, it's not a total no no.

[Meglet]

ooops!!! meant to post that on another thread! sorry!

Hope your ds is much better soon.

[blondissimo]

Just a bit of an update - he seems a bit cooler today, but still unwell, although happy. Hopefully he is on the mend. Thank you for all your advice and help.

[amisuchabadmummy]

Hmmm.... sounds to me like he may have an infection of ear and/or throat.

Did the doctor say why he couldnt do anything?

i've been myself to the docs this morning with sore throat and have been feverish and its tonsilitis for which i've been given antibiotics.

If he's not better tomorrow or you are still worried, I'd take him again. Honestly, sometimes you need to be persistent sometimes.... maybe even see another doctor if possible.

[blondissimo]

Another update - he has come out in a rash all over his head, neck and torso, which when I looked up on nhs direct, it is perfectly fitting to rubella-eek! But have spoken to doctor on the phone and she says could just be a viral rash. So not too sure what it is but fingers crossed he is on the mend!

[amisuchabadmummy]

oh god poor love, and poor you. What did the doctor say to do then?

[blondissimo]

She just said to keep up the fluids and it will go of it's own accord - I was just worried in case he could have transmitted it to any pregnant ladies, but she says they have to be in direct contact so all ok there. It's such a guessing game with kids health a lot of the time isn't it!