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what was Titty' real name in Swallows and Amazons?

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thewhistler · 20/01/2013 22:02

Letitia?

Pretty dire choice, I've always thought, by Ransome, though I love Letitia as a name..

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NormanTheForeman · 20/01/2013 22:10

The name of the real girl was Mavis I believe. She never liked it so was known as Titty. But the others in the story, there was never a real John. The oldest child in the family was a girl, Taqui, then Susan, then Mavis (Titty) then Roger, and lastly Brigit (Bridget or Vicky in the books).

Arthur Ransome made Taqui into John for the purposes of the books.

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thewhistler · 20/01/2013 22:42

How on earth do you get Titty from Mavis?

And yes, I've always been confused by the Bridget/Vicky child.

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DeepRedBetty · 20/01/2013 22:45

She's called Vicky in the first book as she looks just like Queen Victoria, or so the older children think. Her real name is Bridget, the Ship's Baby.

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vesela · 22/01/2013 22:07

When she (Mavis) was little her favourite story was Titty Mouse and Tatty Mouse, and it came from that, apparently.

I've just googled the story, and it's fairly terrifying!!!
www.authorama.com/english-fairy-tales-18.html

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motherinferior · 22/01/2013 22:10

He was a Trotskyist, wasn't he?

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thewhistler · 22/01/2013 22:28

Ah, thanks. all is explained now.

He married his secretary.

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UniS · 22/01/2013 22:36

I had thought that titty may have been based on Mavis, but was named for Taqui who had John based upon but obv not named after.

Nancy being the nickname for Ruth, because Pirates are ruthless, I have always loved as piece of reasoning.

I know a ruth, and she is much as I imagine titty to be. Right down to being 3rd in a large family.

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thewhistler · 23/01/2013 09:59

Yes, I love pirates being Ruthless too. Still makes me smile..

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gazzalw · 03/02/2013 12:25

Isn't it Titania? I seem to recall from seeing the film back in the 70s!

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vesela · 05/02/2013 23:26

gazzalw - Sophie Neville, who played Titty in the film says that she wrote Titania Walker on the front of her diary in the film by mistake, being under the same impression, and only later found out that it came from a mouse!

She's written a fascinating and detailed series of blog posts on the making of the film (she went on to work in film production - on Coot Club among other things). The ones about Swallows and Amazons are from 2011 and 2012 - they start here: sophieneville.net/2011/05/21/serendipity-or-swallows-and-amazons-forever/

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gazzalw · 06/02/2013 20:45

Thanks, Vesela! Haven't watched it since I was a child, many moons ago, so obviously didn't really register the reason for her nickname Blush!

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