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My bully's all grown up now...

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DeLadyDeGaga · 17/02/2011 10:22

I have a tale to tell about a girl who bullied me. She's all grown up now.....famous actually and wouldn't remember me nor the absolute fear she induced in me. I'll come to that in a while.

But first, I wonder why there is so much bullying in our society. Successive campaigns have stated "Zero Tolerance" with regard to bullying and yet, it is rife....in schools, in the workplace, in domestic settings.

My son has ASD and OCD with Tourettes-type tendencies. He is ten. At the moment, he is in a mainstream primary, a lovely school where the other kids understand him, include him and are protective of him. Outside of school, he is laughed at for his peculiar behaviours and other kids give him a wide berth. He has been told to "go away - you're weird" and has become more and more isolated. I fear for his future. Especially in secondary school where I know that kids who don't "fit in" get picked on. I recently visited a mainstream secondary where the SENCO casually told me that, yes, there is bullying at the school but they find EVEN the kids with various behavioural conditions become quite robust and give as good as they get. Like, that was supposed to make me feel better!! My son won't be going there despite it being an excellent academic school and literally, over the road from our home.

I wish we mums had the power to get to grips with this.

Now, back to me. In 1973, aged ten, I got a scholarship to go to a specialist school 200 miles away from my home. I wanted to go but I was homesick and a very weeny ten! A girl two years older than me took great delight in making my life a constant misery. I was a Northerner and I think she singled me out for her special attention because of my "Coronation Street" accent. She really enjoyed the paralysing fear she produced in me. She would from time to time, lock me in a bathroom overnight or (because it was a very old building) the space made between two rooms by adjoining doors. I would know that I'd be stuck there, freezing.....till morning. If there'd been a fire, I'd have been cindered.

Years later (I'm now 48) I see this woman all the time. She is beloved by the British public. Famous. Has awards for her "craft" and yet, I look at her and I see that bully, plain as day. She wouldn't even remember me but, when she's on TV I switch over......her character/persona is basically the same 12 - 16yr old I remember. Not acting at all. I'm not scarred by her but to me, she hasn't changed. She has recently been very ill and I feel nothing. I feel no ill will particularly but neither do I join in with the "oh, how awful, poor woman" conversations.

I wish we mums could do something, really DO SOMETHING about bullying and bullies. I wish it was taken seriously in schools. If it's "tolerated" as part of life's rich tapestry then is it any wonder these people grow up to continue their antics as adults?

It makes me desperately sad and very, very cross.

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giyadas · 17/02/2011 11:07

Sad I'm sorry you went through that. Bullying is vile yet so many teachers refuse to even see it, let alone try to stop it. DD was bullied at primary and nothing was done to the girls responsible. Now at 12 they are spiteful shallow little cows who make life horrible for anyone around them. It was so predictable, yet no-one did anything.
Your post shows that the saying that bullies will have a bad life while the victims will go on to great success is a lie. It makes me so angry.
Schools should definitely step up and properly discipline bullies. In dd's case the bullys mum was no better than a spiteful 12 yo so it's not surprising her dd is like that. The school just shrugged their shoulders. I think they were a bit scared of the mum.
I don't know what the answer is. Schools have bullying policies but seem to refuse to implement them. Angry

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BooyFuckingHoo · 17/02/2011 11:13

i dont know what it is about bullying that makes teachers and bosses so afraid to tackle it. is it that the very nature of bullying means they are afraid of being bullied themselves? is it too much hassle for them to properly deal with it? i know when i was bullied at school, my sister was bullied by my bully's younger sister and when my mum was trying to get it stopped, she was bullied by the mum of these children. she still talks now of how that woman made her go sheet white and physically shake whenever she saw her.

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BooyFuckingHoo · 17/02/2011 11:15

oh, have just read giyadas' post and i see bullying mums is a common thing. i guess the bullies have to learn it somewhere.

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DeLadyDeGaga · 17/02/2011 11:32

giyadas....actually am a very happy, well adjusted and successful individual myself so, I came out of it alright but, many don't.

Yes, I suppose those "little" bullies have to learn their intimidatory tactics from somewhere...

I once made a complaint about a fellow nurse's actions and had the backing of all and sundry until it got nasty and official and the unions were involved and I was then the victim of them trying to root out anything they could use against ME professionally! I was fully vindicated in the end and had a written apology for the action of the manage toward me and the nurse in question was dismissed.

Maybe my childhood experiences have served me well in order to shout out about injustice and bad behaviour, sometimes to my own detriment!

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giyadas · 17/02/2011 11:46

Glad to hear you're happy and successful Smile Yes, it's true many don't get over it totally. I consider myself happy but I'm not successful and my happiness definitely depends on keeping people at a distance. I have trouble looking people in the eye, just keep my head down. It's definitely down to being bullied. Bizarrely I do find it easy to speak up about injustices but can barely manage chit-chat. But surely people shouldn't have to experience injustice to be opposed to it? Or can that empathy only really be learned by having gone through it yourself? Is that why some people don't take it seriously?
Glad you were vindicated at work, I think it really helps when bullying is acknowleged and apologies made.

BTW, any chance of hinting who your bully was? (I know you probably won't but I'm really curious now Grin )

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DeLadyDeGaga · 18/02/2011 10:37

Sorry, must keep schtum!!

As I say, she's well beloved and I'd be villified. All over again. Or possibly sued.

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Mary1947 · 06/03/2011 04:12

Jennifer Saunders!

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wendihouse22 · 06/03/2011 14:57

Good guess but, no.

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Toughasoldboots · 06/03/2011 15:08

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StealthPolarBear · 06/03/2011 15:10

Is she "worth it"??

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StealthPolarBear · 06/03/2011 15:11

oh hang on that doesn't work if you're 48
can imagine the nation's current golden geordie girl was a spiteful schoolgirl though

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3littlefrogs · 06/03/2011 15:11

I listened to a talk by a well known sports person some years ago. It was given in a very large conference centre/arena to about 2000 people.

She named and shamed the school bully, and the headmaster who told her she would never amount to anything. Grin

I imagine it was something that still played on her mind even after her success.

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NunTheWiser · 06/03/2011 15:36

Emma Thompson?
Kristin Scott Thomas?

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Dragonwoman · 06/03/2011 21:52

Leslie Ash? She looks a spiteful sort to me!

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BeerTricksPotter · 06/03/2011 22:04

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cath476 · 06/03/2011 22:14

I think Dragonwoman had got it!

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cath476 · 06/03/2011 22:14

*has not had

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bibbitybobbityhat · 06/03/2011 22:19

Maybe the bully feels sorry and guilty for what she's done?

I saw someone in The Guardian Q & A question thingy recently saying that her greatest regret was that she was a bully at school - and she apologised to the people involved.

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suwoo · 06/03/2011 22:22

Yeah, I reckon Leslie Ash was a cow too. Not Jennifer Saunders who was my first thought.

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suwoo · 06/03/2011 22:23

Leslie Ash is 51..... Wink

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DeLadyDeGaga · 07/03/2011 09:30

No comment ladies. Even at 48, I wouldn't want to be in the same room with her so, think we have to end it there!!

It's interesting what you say, that bullies often regret their actions.... but I'd honestly imagine that this woman didn't care then, and wouldn't care now.

Emma Thompson ? No!!! I bet she's lovely and always has been lovely.

Signing out on this one, x

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DeLadyDeGaga · 07/03/2011 09:33

Oh, ToughasOldBoots.... like the sound of your DD. My ds is like that.... a really kooki little sense of humour that can run rings around the other kids!

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ontherainbow · 16/03/2011 22:19

DeladyDeGaga,

I hope you haven't signed out on this one just yet...

Your comment on your first message 'i wish mum's had the power to get to grips with this' jumped out at me like a bullet.

I have just taken my ten year old asd child out of school for relentless bullying, picking, teasing etc... something 'accepted' by some schools for children with SEN?!

I and a group of fellow parents and teachers are trying to set up a 'free school' in our area - for autistic children aged 11-16 that have been subject to bullying. We are trying to reserve places for children who do not have statements.

Would you consider setting up a school in your area? It is people that have personal agendas that seem to get things done. I'm a heart-broken mother who knows all too well what it's like to be bullied, so I am doing everything possible to make this happen. I think you'll find there are many who share your story that would be happy to help....

Food for thought!

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DeLadyDeGaga · 20/03/2011 16:46

Have kind of signed out.....

My son's (hopefully) got a place at mainstream secondary which has an attached ASD unit. We've just had his Statement review for year 5 so, he would start in Sept 2012. The consensus was, that he would be well placed in that particular unit. I can only hope that he does get a place. We plan a move of house on the strength of it.

There are no "specialist" ASD schools near us, as such.

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