I have to go dairy free :(

(61 Posts)
ElBombero Wed 23-Oct-13 15:28:14

I'm in the grieving process, after eliminating infection it's looking like my DS green mucousy stools are due to a CMPI.

No more chocolate, tea or coffee whilst feeding my boy. How can I get through Xmas? Throughout xfactor without chocolate? I know this sounds incredibly selfish but I am already egg, gluten and nut free sad

looseleaf Fri 25-Oct-13 21:33:30

I have been gluten and dairy free for 2.3 years breastfeeding DS and now I've just stopped and safe to eat dairy again I can't stand it! (Apart from yoghurt) So I really hope you'll adjust as well as I have.
I feel healthier than ever in fact and have focused quite a lot on proper eating eg all home-cooked and on a thorough vitamin& mineral supplement in case.

I can totally understand your dismay and you have egg and nuts to avoid so more than me but i did find dairy easier than gluten by far - M&S dairy free spread for example is our favourite, and DS loves Oatly milk in a blue carton (from fridge in some big supermarkets) which is enriched with calcium etc (the long life one isn't)

48th Fri 25-Oct-13 21:31:44

Tbh honest oodis... If your baby let you block feed they were probably doing just fine on itsmile

48th Fri 25-Oct-13 21:30:29

Yeah it is right, it may have been a good choice for you though. If you do have over supply then your baby would ordinarily gain heavily, over 7oz a week (this can be normal anyway) and the would be other signs often too like engorgement or a hair trigger let down reflex ( though you can have this without over supply).

Oodisgonnagetya Fri 25-Oct-13 21:24:23

Is that right 48th ? It was a bf counsellor that suggested it to me to combat the over active supply/lactose overload. Feeling bad now sad

48th Fri 25-Oct-13 21:18:19

Op if you block feed it will reduce your baby's weight gain.

arlandria666 Fri 25-Oct-13 20:12:29

my little one is 5 months and I have been dairy free since he was 10 days old I had to do a 4 week exclusion and then reintroduce but it made him poorly so I am still dairy free and taking prescribed calcium + vit d supplements.
Despite being dairy free at around 8 weeks DS went for 8 days having green nappies it was awful but I block fed and it soon cleared up. Hope you get to the bottom of it...ps I agree Asda dairy free chocolate buttons are yum and koko chocolate coconut milk makes a yummy chocolate rice pudding smile

Viviennemary Fri 25-Oct-13 18:48:40

That sounds really tough. But there are a lot of ideas on this thread. Good luck!

Oodisgonnagetya Fri 25-Oct-13 18:42:02

Try block feeding as well. That helped ds with my over supply.

ElBombero Fri 25-Oct-13 16:18:55

Hi guys, thanks so much for all the responses.

I've decided to hold off going dairy free, I assure you it's not me jumping the gun, going dairy free is the last thing I want! It's all on advise of the HP. So following advice from here and RL I went to see a 2nd GP who's told me to send another sample so awaiting results of that.

DS is still having very bad nappies and wind at every feed but he is settled and happy. His poo is army green, watery, frothy at times, looks like seaweed in his nappy x

HabitualLurker Fri 25-Oct-13 13:04:48

How's your LO getting on now?

I'm another voice saying you may be jumping the gun a little. It could just be an infection that's taking a little while to get over. My now 13mo had several incidences of the green frothies, each taking a few weeks to get over.

He's not CMPI and it had nothing to do with foremilk/hindmilk imbalance nonsense either, though well-meaning friends did suggest that was the root of the problem.

SeriouslySleepDeprived Fri 25-Oct-13 12:26:45

DS is dairy & soy allergy and had loads of symptoms other than the forest green nappies. He was super windy/farty, had patches of eczema, very mucusy sounding, reflux and a terrible sleeper.

I'm a coeliac so dairy, soy and gluten free and I have found that tough enough. I would really get a second opinion before eliminating any more out your diet.

JohFlow Fri 25-Oct-13 09:46:38

Thanks for the cheese recommendation. Will be giving that a try. Would be nice to be able to offer my DS cheese on toast or proper pizza.

crikeybadger Thu 24-Oct-13 20:37:27

I personally would seek a second opinion, as others have said green nappies are not always a problem if not accompanied by any other symptoms.

That said, do try the booja booja truffles, they are to die for, dairy free or notgrin

BinarySolo Thu 24-Oct-13 16:51:34

I used to buy it from my local health food shop in Leicester. It's stocked by tesco but I've never seen it there

www.buteisland.com/a_suppliers.htm

Katiebeau Thu 24-Oct-13 16:41:47

That cheese is the Tesco free from cheese range. It's not bad.

OP my DD had the same symptoms and it wasn't CMPA it was lactose intolerance.

Awful from BF perspective but easier diet wise now. Especially as she's gluten intolerant too.

Good luck OP.

Oh and Kinnertons do Dairy Free advent calendars but I'm not sure it's soya free.

JohFlow Thu 24-Oct-13 16:24:54

No I haven't yet. Where can I get it from?

BinarySolo Thu 24-Oct-13 16:12:19

Have you tried Bude Island cheese, JohFlow? The blue cheese is particularly good.

JohFlow Thu 24-Oct-13 14:12:33

Sounds like products marked 'vegan' would be the best way to go for your for now. These will eliminate most of your intolerances straight away. I am sure that you already read every label before buying.

I have been dairy free for 10 years (intolerant) and serve a dairy free diet to my DS (who has had full milk allergy since birth). Many people live without dairy and thankfully substitutes are very well developed. It is good that you have been referred to a dietician. They should be able to give you lists of substitute products, cookery ideas and many can prescribe dairy replacers and vitamin supplements for yourself and baby. They are also very good at discussing any anxieties you have about you/your baby being on a restricted diet. Cooking with diary free does sometimes require some trial and error e.g. if it gets too hot it can curdle.

Should you choose to go onto bottle feeding; they can prescribe Nutramigen/another formula for baby so that you can get it for free. Like LAF suggests the dairy free formulas tend to smell and taste different (Nutramigen is almost savoury in flavour) but it was a god send to me after 18 months of pukey baby and sleeplessness.

I think soy products are the closest match to cow's milk but oat milks are also available. Many soy products have some vitamin/calcium enrichment. The milks are all good in tea and coffee - so you can still get your caffeine fix!

These are worth a try...

Alpro soy milks, yoghurts, creams, milkshakes, custards etc (widely available and creamy)
Provamel soy (very yummy and have some interesting flavours)
Viva Soy
Holland and Barrett's own soya milk (often on manager's special)
Mark's and Spencer Soya Drink (top creaminess - lovely)
Benecol Dairy Free probiotic drinks
Vitalite Dairy Free Spread
Pure Diary Free Spread
Swedish Glace Ice cream
Freedom Ice Cream
Any Dairy Free Chocolate with Carob in (bitter and strong - great if you like you chocolate dark, but can also be mixed with milk substitutes).
Asda Dairy Free Buttons (closest to milk chocolate I have found)

Like another poster; I have not found a decent replacement for cheese though. I have tried a few brands but some can either taste very rubbery or chalky.

You can make decent food/ have nice snacks on dairy free - so please don't panic too much. If you need anything else just shout out.

May09Bump Thu 24-Oct-13 13:23:55

go onto ocado - they have a great range of free from products. you can filter to specific allergens.

although it may not be CMPI at all if he has no other symptoms other than green poo - the links I gave above give other reasons for green poo and it is not always food intolerance

fanjobiscuits Thu 24-Oct-13 13:21:59

Booja booja chocolates are DELICIOUS

what do you mean what I said is not true? Lactose is in all milks including breastmilk (as it is the sugar in the milk) so if the problem is with cows milk protein then the lactose free formula will still contain the cows milk protein so will not help at all. A dairy free/hypoallergenic formula would be needed rather than lactose free

nosleeptillbedtime Thu 24-Oct-13 12:33:50

Read your further post and oesn't sound like cmpi to me. My ds was screaming in pain at feeding! I would speak to a different hcp if I were you, such as a gp.

nosleeptillbedtime Thu 24-Oct-13 12:29:39

My paed reckons the hypo allergic formula is better than bf for kids with intolerances. Maybe you could ask for a referral to a paed? I have suffered with a limited diet whilst bf and it is awful. Your Son is an ideal age to get on formula. It I'll be much harder/ imposs as he gets older. Ver very difficult to do past three months. What I love says is not true. The cowsmilk is o broken down in this formula that it doesn't trigger a reaction.

BeansAndCheese Thu 24-Oct-13 12:29:18

I agree to be cautious before cutting out dairy. My lo had green poos and copious amounts of it. No ever suggested dairy intolerance. I carried on as normak . her weight gain was dire but picked up after I started weaning (when I introduced butter milk cheese etc). She improved a lot and went from off the charts to the 25% in 3months. Is it possible you have an oversupply. It can help if you make them stay on one breast longer to make sure they get enough hind milk. I mention it because my HV didn't know anything about it. Have you spoken to a lactation consultant?

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