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Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:05:20
Can not believe that I am posting this message and doubt I ever will.

My 20 year old son commited suicide on Monday and I found out on Thursday tea time.

He had been missing from Monday, the police had been informed and we were so worried about him, but really did not expect this.

He had a very good job, he had just passed his heating engineering exam, was living in a nice area renting a lovely flat from a friend, had so many friends who all loved him.

I am going from despair to disbelief at the moment and keep going round and round asking questions that will probably never be answered.

I do know that drugs had played a part in his teenage years but this was always played down to us, I had told him so so many times that it would end up badly for him if he carried on but he always denied it.

I am dreading the funeral, ofcourse what mum wouldn't, how am I going to get through it?

If anyone can offer any help or support I would appreciate this.

Rest Peacefully Oliver, we love you so much.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pruners on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:06:19
Oh my goodness
You poor thing
Don't know what to say but so sorry
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By twoluvlykids on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:06:55
so so sorry to hear this

terrible for you and everyone who knew him
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By guyFAwkesreQuiem on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:07:19
I'm so sorry Everlong sad

Prayers for you and your family.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By filthymindedvixen on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:07:42
I'm so sorry to hear this everlong. Peace be with you
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By girlandboy on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:07:43
I'm sorry, I cannot think of any words that will comfort you. But please know that you and your family will be in my thoughts and prayers.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bozza on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:07:54
How awful for you. sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By squeakypop on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:07:59
I am so sorry for your loss.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By BoysAreLikeDogs on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:08:13
Oh I am so sorry everlong.

I cannot even begin to imagine the shock and horror of this.

Drugs are a scourge.

RIP Oliver
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TequilaMockinBird on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:08:16
sad so sorry everlong.

No advice for you but didn't want to read and not post. Hopefully someone will be along soon with advice.

In the meantime, my thoughts and prayers are with you. xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By AstroPup on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:10:04
That is truly devestating, I am so, so sorry darling.
I hope you have friends and family around who can support you.
Be kind t yourself, I wish you strength and wish peace for Oliver xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Tiggiwinkle on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:12:32
So very sorry. sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By worzelgummidge on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:13:02
Oh Everlong.... hugs to you.......
I can only try to imagine what you are going through. No parent expects to bury their child. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. sad
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Milliways on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:14:45
So sorry to hear your news

Our prayers are with you.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Pelvicfloornomore on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:14:54
Oh im so very sorrysad
My sister comitted suicide 5 years ago so i have an idea of what you must be going through.
If you feel the need to talk at some point in the future i am here for you.
RIP Oliver
xxxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Sidge on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:15:14
I am so very sorry to hear that your darling boy is gone sad

Maybe these people could offer support?

Another support network

And another one
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By KatieMorag on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:15:19
please think about contacting this organisation
compassionate friends they have a helpline and special support for parents who have lost a child through suicide
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheWheelsOnTheBusHaveFallenOff on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:15:28
I am so very very sorry for your loss.

Please see this website www.uk-sobs.org.uk/ which may help you in more specific ways than we can here. It is for those bereaved by suicide.

My thoughts are with you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Threadworrm on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:16:32
I'm so very very sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By piratecat on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:17:48
Everlong, i am so so terribly sorry, this has happened. I cannot comprehend what you must be going thru.

i am so sorry. x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Mhamai on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:18:52
Oh Everlong I'm so so sorry. sad
My dd 23 lost her father to suicide two years ago. I can't even begin to imagine how you are feeling but if you want to cat me to talk off the board you are more than welcome.

RIP Oliver
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By BoccaDellaVerita on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:19:03
I too am so very very sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By madlentileater on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:20:37
I'm so sorry, must be the worst kind of loss.
Don't forget the Samaritans, always there to listen, 24/7.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By lulumama on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:20:56
it is the worst news. i am so very, very sorry for what must be a totally incomprehensible loss.

i second the recommendation for contacting the compassionate friends

nothing else to say sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By StealthPolarBANG on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:21:26
everlong I'm so sorry to read this
I can't think of what to say, I wish I had words that would comfort you but I don't
Don't know your details but do you have family or friends who are looking after you
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By cornsilk on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:22:06
everlong I am so so sorry sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By taipo on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:22:14
I'm so sorry sad

I hope you can find the support you need at this awful time. Thinking of you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Bucharest on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:24:12
So sorry.x
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By milge on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:32:02
I am very sorry for your loss. Cannot comprehend how you must be feeling.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:32:53
Thank you all so much.

I do have immediate family, but many good friends too.

Everyone is supporting me. I am estranged from Olivers dad, but we have been helping each other with our loss and this is helping me, because someone else know the pain that I'm in exactlly.

My DH is adorable anyway and I love him so much, he is grieving badly for Oliver as he had brought him up since Oli was 7.

I am very anxious about the funeral and if it's not too insensitive would be grateful to those who experienced a loss to know how to cope, I am filled with dread about it.

I have just left my details with compassionate friends and will definately look at the other links too, thank you.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By bookthief on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:35:18
I am so sorry for the loss of your son. There are no words.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By cluelessnchaos on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:36:26
I cant begin to imagine what it is like to lose a child and I am so sorry for you, I have lost my mum to suicide and my cousin and I have spent a lot of time thinking about why and what if, how to get through the funeral, just put one foot in front of the other and do and say what you need to, I am sorry I cant be more help both funerals are a real blur.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By MaryAnnSingleton on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:37:45
everlong - so,so sorry..can't find any other words sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Suedonim on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:44:03
I'm so sorry, Everlong. What a terrible tragedy to have to cope with. sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By StealthPolarBANG on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:45:17
xx
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So sorry sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PenelopePitstops on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:46:43
everlong im so so sorry, what a tragic loss

I'm sure people will be along with practical advice soon
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By miku on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:49:41
dear everlong im so sorry for your pain and lossi am chanting with love and peace to you and Oliver.xxxxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By needmorecoffee on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:50:54
I am so very sorry and can only second what others have said. When you feel ready go for counselling as it will help with the questions and the 'why us?' and especially 'what could i have done?'
No real advice for the funeral. I have been to funerals of children who passed away from their disabilities and to be honest couldn't understand how they could speak and stand up.
So sorry.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MummyDoIt on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:50:59
I don't have any words that can comfort you but didn't want to ignore your post. My heart goes out to you and your family. With much love and sympathy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:51:28
thank you miku x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:53:21
Mummydoit thank you.

How are you and your boys?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By IllegallyBrunette on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:54:13
Very sorry to hear this xxx
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Buda on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:56:07
Oh everlong - I am so most dreadfully sorry. I cannot imagine what you must be going through.

RIP Oliver.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By KatieMorag on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:56:54
please try not to worry too much about the funeral. we lost our teenaged son a few years ago and we had a cremation then a memorial service. its not as bad as you imagine - there are bits when you break down or nearly but most of the time you find the strength to get through it

we were fortunate to be able to have the memorial service exactly the way we wanted it, so it was very personal to Ds. do you have someone you knwo who can take the funeral for you eg a minister of religion or similar person? Once you are able to sit down and talk through all the praticalities it really helps eg choosing music, people to take part etc . you then begin to think about how you can have all the things that your son would have liked

on teh day i found i was focussed on

oh how lovely that x is here

Ds woudl really have loved that music

what a lovely tribute from Y

how kind of z to come

rather than " oh my goodness this cant be real, Ds is in that coffin " shock shock etc etc

honestly, somehow you WILL get through it

does that make sense?
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By weepootle on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:56:59
I'm so sorry you're going through this, everylong.

My brother committed suicide 18 months ago and I'm afraid I still don't know how to deal with it. I think it's the hardest kind of death to cope with as there's so many questions that will never be answered along with the guilt and wondering whether you could've done something more to make his life happier/ more bearable.

I saw a couple of counsellors but I think they struggled a bit as they didn't have any experience of suicide. The experts in this area are sobs and when you're ready maybe you can get in touch with them.

Try not to worry too much about the funeral, we had a fantastic day hearing everyone's memories of my brother- his friends had lots of stories to tell and have been a great support to my parents since.

I have to go now but will be back.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheCrackFox on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:57:43
I am so sorry to hear your sad news. xx sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By findtheriver on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:58:22
So so sorry. This must be unimaginable.
Don't know what to say, except I hope you have the love and support around you that you deserve over the coming weeks and months.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ingles2 on Sat 08-Nov-08 13:59:09
Everlong... shock sad am so very very sorry for your loss.
I can't even begin to imagine how this must feel sad
I have no experience with coping at funerals but can only say you must do exactly what you see fit to help you cope. I imagine you will want it to be a fitting tribute to your son, so do exactly that, do not worry about convention, others opinions etc. Take time to think about Oliver, especially all the wonderful things he must have done.
What sort of funeral are you planning?
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ledodgy on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:08:40
Oh Everlong I'm so very, very sorry.sad
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By RubySlippers on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:09:15
sad

so very sorry for your terrible loss
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By edam on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:10:28
Oh everlong, that is so dreadfully sad. Poor Oliver and poor you - all of you, his family and friends. I'm so sorry he found himself in such a terrible place.
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Everlong I am so sorry
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Aitch on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:14:00
everlong, i'm so sorry.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MummyDoIt on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:17:09
Everlong, we're doing just fine, thanks. Taking each day as it comes which, to be honest, is the best advice I can offer to you.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By OrmIrian on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:18:47
Oh everlong sad

I am so so sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Hassled on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:21:04
I'm so sorry. Wish I could even begin to help - you must feel just overwhelmed.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By herbietea on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:22:03
Everlong I am so sorry for your loss.

RIP Oliver.

With regards to the funeral my Nan passed away 2 weeks ago and we had no idea about what to do. The undertaker suggested a humanist funeral as Nan had no faith. A lovely man sat with my Mum and went through my Nan's life with her. He wrote out a beautiful tribute to her and DS2 read a lovely poem. We had no reference to God and 3 songs were played. Then Nan was cremated.

I am sure that once you get the deathe certificate sorted the undertaker will hepl you with regards to the arrangements of the funeral.

I wish you and your family much love and strength at this difficult time.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By MadCreamLady on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:22:30
OH, i am just so very sorry for you - i don't have the words
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Yorkiegirl on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:26:35
very sorry to hear this sad
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By IAmNotHere on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:35:24
I'm so sorry, everlong.
Poor Oliver.

Very sadly, you are not the only mner who has lost a child. Here is a thread you may find helpful.

You may not want to read it all, but I'm sure you could CAT some of the posters.

Sorry if already posted.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ManxMum on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:37:10
A big hug and tears for you.

My son is 20 in a few weeks, will give him a big hug too.

Oliver xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ladytophamhatt on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:40:19
Oh everlong....

xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By orangehead on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:42:46
Im so sorry everygreen. You are in thoughts and prayers
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So sorry
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Nemowith3and1tobe on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:44:44
oh everlong..no words just thoughts and prayers for stength and peacesad

RIP Oliver
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Thefearlessfreak on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:53:02
You & your family are all in our thoughts xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By WingsofaAngel on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:53:12
I am sorry for you loss.

I think when it comes to the funeral something makes you cope I'm not sure what but you do.

Take care of yourself.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By feedmenow on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:55:14
Lots of love to you everlong.

I'm sitting here trying to think of something useful or comforting to say, but I cannot think of anything that would do justice to what you are going through.

xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Quattrocento on Sat 08-Nov-08 14:55:38
Dear god. I am so sorry

I didn't know whether to post this or not

"...love through unrepining hours
Before us lies eternity: our souls
Are love, and a contnual frewell."
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Simplysally on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:04:16
I'm so sorry to read this . Thinking of you x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Cadix on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:06:46
I am so sorry everlong, I don't know what else to say but so very sorry.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By chunkychips on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:08:01
so sorry to hear this, how devastating for you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By dazmum on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:14:04
So very sorry, I can't think of anything useful to say, but thinking of you all xxx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:18:50
Thank you all so so much, you are lovely...

KatyMorag - I'm so sad that you were in my situation, thank you so much for the advice, it is exactly what I need to hear, I will read your post again, even print it off.

We are having a church funeral and he will buried in the graveyard there.

It is a 1 minute drive away or a short walk.

It is next to where his best friends live and they feel so glad that he will be there and that they can go to him whenever they want, us also of course. I feel some comfort that he still be in our village where he grew up.
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I am so sad for you everlong. I will be thinking of you
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By 3littlefrogs on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:24:18
So, so sorry everlong. Haven't read the whole thread, but if it hasn't yet been mentioned, The Compassionate Friends (www.tcf.org.uk)is a charity that offers help and support to bereaved parents and siblings. I have found them very helpful in the past.

I am so sorry. Sending you love and prayers and sympathy.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By KatieMorag on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:30:18
what I found is that we became focussed on how we could have the best possible funeral for Ds. it was one thing we could still do for him IYSWIM.we tried to make it a celebration of his life, rather than focus on his death. we had music he liked, family members ( not us) took part, his head teacher spoke etc. So it became very personal and not a "standard" funeral ( if there is such a thing).

For us that made it easier because on the day we were thinking about how well it was going and not about the terrible things that had happened the previous week. for us the days after the funeral were just the start of the grieving process. In the week in between the death and teh funeral we were caught up with all the practicalities and didnt have time to think . which was a good thing

our minister was a great help and support to us. i hope yours is too

i'm so sorry for your loss sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheMoistWorldOfSeptimusQuench on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:34:35
Oh how awful, I am so sorry and will be thinking of you and your family sad
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TheArmadillo on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:37:40
I am so sorry and can't even begin to comprehend what you must be going through.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 15:41:41
Katy - I hope you don't mind me asking, was your dear son ill or was it an accident?

The part that is so hard to expect is the circumstance of his death.

He went to a local beauty spot and threw himself of a very high crag and this is what I cannot accept, the brutality of it.

So I don't feel like I can at this stage celebrate his short life iyswim.

But I do want his funeral to be a tribute to him and it be the best for him.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By KatieMorag on Sat 08-Nov-08 16:39:39
our son was ill and in hospital for weeks befroe his death, so in a sense it was expected, and not sudden. although nothing prepares you for such a thing....

i suspect that many people in your situation woudl be very angry, that someone with so much to live for - good friends, a career,youth and health, a loving family - should waste it all. when i was in my 20s a good friend took his own life and i remember storming about the room calling him for everything, saying " i could kill him" blush. it seemed so selfish ....

in time I was able to understand that my friend was ill - his behaviour was totally irrational. His mind was so disturbed that he honestly believed that there was no way forward aftre his Gf had dumped him. He was depressed and /or under the influence of drugs/alcohol - which he had taken because he was so depressed. You have to be ill to believe that whatever is troubling you is so bad that the only was to fix it is jump off a cliff.... you are right, it's SO brutal

it took me years to "forgive" him, and he was "just" a friend. i don't know how one forgives a son.....
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By cocolepew on Sat 08-Nov-08 16:43:01
everlong, I'm so sorry for your loss.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheMadHouse on Sat 08-Nov-08 16:48:53
Everlong

I am so sorry for your unimaginable loss. A wise person one told me that the pain we feel is comensurate to the love we gave and also that over a child life we will all cry a certian amount of tears, some will cry more at one time than other.

I am so sorry that you are shedding all your tears now.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ShowOfHands on Sat 08-Nov-08 16:52:25
everlong, I'm so terribly sorry. I don't have the words.

DH's lost two friends, aged 20. One through an accident, one through suicide. In both instances, the funerals were wonderful reflections of the lives they celebrated. The music, readings and tributes were carefully selected and even the parents -who were in no place to celebrate life in the midst of such a bleak and terrible time- were carried through the funerals because of how fitting they were.

I wish you peace and strength for the days ahead.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By TheFallenMadonna on Sat 08-Nov-08 17:04:13
I'm so sorry about your son. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Oliver.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By ilovemydogandPresidentObama on Sat 08-Nov-08 17:06:45
May I make a suggestion?

When someone dies suddenly, rather than a long drawn out illness, the subject of funeral is way too quick.

Could you have a memorial service later for your DS? That way too the funeral won't be good bye....

so sorry for you.... sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By georgimama on Sat 08-Nov-08 17:11:49
I'm so sorry Everlong.

When I was at university one of my tutor group committed suicide. His parents had a private funeral (understandably) but a huge memorial service about six weeks later which was full of his friends from uni and school. It was very bright and upbeat in tone and even though they must have been walking shells of their real selves I think his parents did take comfort from it.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By NomDePlume on Sat 08-Nov-08 17:13:48
How utterly tragic, everlong sad

I'll be thinking of you and wishing you peace and strength to get through the coming days, weeks and months.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By snigger on Sat 08-Nov-08 17:50:14
Everlong, I am so very sorry you're enduring what must be the worst possible news as a mother.

The memories of him must be so very painful just now.

Our thoughts are with you in your time of heartbreak, with the hope that you are surrounded by people who love you who can support you through this. sad
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By pushchair on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:00:51
I just wanted to say that I am so sorry for your loss. What a terrible shock for you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By QOD on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:01:53
I am so so sorry
x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By zoggs on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:05:23
So sorry for you and your family. Suicide is hard to understand and almost impossible to explain.

I have had a close friend take her life in a similar way to your son - she jumped from a bridge and also a colleague who deliberately drove her car into a lake and drowned. After our colleague died we had professional support and I was strangely comforted to know that the more violent the death the more determined the person was to achieve their goal. Also, that if someone is determined to take their own life they will do it and absolutely nothing will stop them.

More recently, my friend's husband took his own life and she has been amazing. My heartbroken friend says she totally respects her husband's decision, that she supported him in life and will continue to do so in his death. She has said and done some very, very strange things but I have learned that when something like this happens there are no boundaries left. It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or says, unless they are helping you just walk away.

Hope you can find some peace.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NorbertDentressangle on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:06:53
everlong -how awful. This must be devastating for you all.

I'm so sorry.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:17:58
Thank you all for your wise words I do find comfort in them.

Katy - I really hope you don't think that I think your loss is any less than mine, to lose your son at any and under any circumstance is intolerable and destroying.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By 2shoes on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:21:03
Omg I am so sorry.
sending you loads of love
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By only1malteaser on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:24:24
Oh I am so sad for you. I lost my nineteen year old brother in a car accident nearly six years ago and have watched my parents going through the most horrific agony since then. My mother can not accept his death in any way and refuses to talk about him being dead. It has even got to the point where she has tried to commit suicide.
Unfortunately I cannot give you any practical advice except keep talking, to anyone and everyone, even write your feelings down if you feel that helps.
Also go to see your doctor, they may be able to answer some of your questions regarding your sons state of mind etc.
My heart goes out to you, and I hope you can find some peace in your memories and loved ones xx
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By imnotmamagbutshelovesme on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:30:04
Oh love. sad

I am so very sorry for your huge loss and wish there was something I could write that would help, but of course nothing will.

Is there anything practical that you could use help with?

I am so sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Pennies on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:33:02
everlong, my heart goes out to you. So very sorry to hear this.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By sallystrawberry on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:35:51
Oh Everlong sad
I'm so sorry sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By constancereader on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:39:53
Everlong, I am so sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By PurplePillow on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:40:15
So sorry to read your sad news, my prayers are with you and you family sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By blueskyandsunshine on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:43:36
Everlong, how devastating, so very very sorry. How very terrible. So sorry. Rest in peace Oliver.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Pixiefish on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:44:43
So sosorry
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By KatieMorag on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:45:45
no everlong, i didnt think you meant that at all smileas you say its always terrible
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sat 08-Nov-08 18:55:53
Thank you Katy x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PerkinWarbeck on Sat 08-Nov-08 19:24:31
so sorry.
thinking of you and your family x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Bubble99 on Sat 08-Nov-08 19:36:30
everlong sad

I am so sorry sad

There's nothing to say, but I hope you will get some strength from knowing that we are all thinking of you.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By NotanOtterOHappyDay on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:24:06
terribly sad for you all Everlong

I cannot say anything to help because i cannot know what you are going through

a friend of mine killed herself in august and i was wretched for a while with a mixture of guilt at my failings etc

i met a much closer friend of W's and she said to me 'rest yourslef - it is what she wanted - she wanted no one to suffer and she is at peace now'

it helped me

thinking of you x
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By PottyCock on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:28:47
so sorry everlong sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VaginaShmergina on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:30:50
sad I am very sorry for the loss of your boy everlong. sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Botbot on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:31:29
Don't know what to say except I'm really sorry.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By ThingOne on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:38:47
I am so sorry to hear your news.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By Wezzle on Sat 08-Nov-08 22:38:59
So sorry for your loss Everlong

RIP Oliver
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By shabster on Sun 09-Nov-08 09:36:53
No death so sad as that of a child. I have an idea of the pain you are going through. Please come to a very special MN thread where we are all bereaved mums and offer support and experience and a listening ear. We are also known to LOL and tell rude jokes.

So sorry for your loss. RIP Oliver xxxx
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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Olihan on Sun 09-Nov-08 10:04:25
I'm so sorry, everlong.

My dh's brother died 8 years ago, aged 23. It was very sudden and unexpected. Like you, he died on the Monday and we didn't find out til the Wednesday because he lived away from home and it took time for the police to find out my PILs details.

Because he died so suddenly there had to be a PM which was inconclusive so there had to be a second set of tests done. I think we had nearly 2 weeks between his death and the funeral. In a way it was hard because it's a time of being completely in limbo, in another way it meant there was plenty of time to plan the service.

We had it in the village church where they were christened - their old childhood vicar came back to do the service and a friend of PILs who was a lay reader read a tribute that the PILs had written.

We actually had the interrment first because MIL couldn't bear the thought of looking at the coffin through the service. So it was a family only burial (in a plot that MIL and FIL will also go into eventually) then the service in church.

DH and his sister read a few words they'd written about BIL, we had hymms that he liked, a man from the village sang his favourite song and another local lad played a medley of his favourite songs on the piano at the beginning and end.

There were so many people there - friends from school, uni, his colleagues travelled for 3 hours to be there, PILs friends, dh and SILs friends were there as well as many people from the village who knew him. I think it helped my PILs to know just how much people thought of both BIL and them. We had a wake at PILs house afterwards - sandwiches, cold meats, salad, etc, nothing that took much effort - and lots of people came to it. I think that also helped the PILs a lot as they found out so many things about BIL that they didn't know. It created extra memories for them, in a way.

I hope you can find a way to have the service that you want. You are having to make decisions no parents ever want to make but it will in a weird way help you through the next few days.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By everlong on Sun 09-Nov-08 17:12:51
Thank you Shabster, I've always liked you as a poster, you are very caring and empathetic.

I will come and join you all soon x

Olihan, thank you for writing about your loss.

It sounds weird but I get some comfort when someone actually has suffered a loss and I don't feel like I am the only that has been through this iyswim.

Struggled today. The weather is so awful. Just keep crying and feel so helpless. Had some lovely cards though and flowers.

Yesterday had a letter posted by a lady in my village whom I know vaguely from school. It was so heartfelt and gave me comfort. She had sufferd a cot death some years ago and I thought how lovely that she could think of me enough to write such a letter to let us know we are in her thoughts.

People really kind and thoughtful.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By daftpunk on Sun 09-Nov-08 17:16:18
i'm so so sorry everlong.

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Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By Lomond on Sun 09-Nov-08 17:20:31
Everlong I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

I cannot begin to imagine what you are going through but wish you strength to get through this sad
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By VanillaPumpkin on Sun 09-Nov-08 17:25:13
I am so sorry sad.
Contact the poster Contact mumsnet about this post By apostrophe on Sun 09-Nov-08 17:33:16
I can't imagine your loss. I'm sorry for you. You're in my thoughts and prayers.
Contact the poster See this person's profile Contact mumsnet about this post By TheInvisibleManDidIt on Sun 09-Nov-08 17:40:34
So sorry Everlong sad
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Really sorry everlong sad
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