Here you go, linky Good luck!

Hi Feierabend - I can't find that May thread. Can yo send link? Ta x

I started a thread when DD2 was 4 weeks old about exactly this - back in May - under the nickname Schulte. I got lots of good advice there so may be worth looking there.

sorry if you found my post unhelpful. it was certainly not meant that way

my point was to take a step back and try to concentrate on what your baby is doing and her needs, rather than what books say she should do or what her siblings do

a newborn who is not sure which is night and day sounds pretty normal , although frustrating

i am sorry if my post upset you and i hope you things are better for you soon

agree that going back to doc or HV for more reassurance is a good thing

Lots of sympathy to you beccablum, my DD2 was like that too. She'd even sleep through a bath and then be wide awake at night. It lasted for about 3-4 weeks and by 8 weeks old she had it sussed. Just keep daytime noisy and bright, and take her places, and at night be very strict about keeping the lights out / low and keeping things quiet. I always put DD2 back in her cot after the night feeds even if she was wide awake and then did the pick up / put down thing, sometimes for 2 hours. It was awful while it lasted, but it will pass. Good luck.

Honestly, my DS was like this too. He is fine, he adjusted eventually. Do try and relax a bit I don't think I have one photo of him with his eyes open until about 7 or 8 weeks old. And congratulations on your new baby, I don't think it's too late to say that

My newborn dd slept for 23 hours a day and we had to wake her up for feeds and try to keep her awake to finish them! There wasn't much we could do to keep her awake tbh even taking all her clothes off! It was just a gradual adjustment and by 7/8 weeks we had pretty much established it. She never sits down or sleeps in the day at all - she's 29 months old now and I can't believe she was so sleepy as a baby!

Exactly this happened with ds, and he was still quite jaundiced. I am sure this is not the case with your dd, but just in case she still looks a bit suntanned, is it worth having a word with the HV?

In my case ds was feeding 45 mins on, sleeping for 5 mins off, all night, and then slept most of the day with max 3 feeds. I was told to wake him up but a) didn't realise how important it was and b) couldn't do it! I also wasn't doing brilliantly with breastfeeding and didn't realise this.

IMO I would talk to the HV or your GP just to be sure.

I really feel for you, as I can see that you are not expecting your baby to sleep all night, but sleep at least some of the night. Is she asleep in the evening as well as the day ? What times is she awake in the night ?

What I would suggest is that you do not try to keep her awake during the day, but instead leave her alone. Once she has fed, but her in her moses basket in the same room as you where there is activity going on, do not tuck her in, and you may find that she will after an hour or so, start to stir. Do not rush to her the minute she stirs, especially if she has just fed within the hour.
It may take a few days of doing this, but she should start to wake up a bit. This has worked for me and some of my friends so it may work for you and your baby.

we don't expect her to be playing with bricks, we just want her to open her eyes! I don't think our expectations are too high, and it is an unhelpful thing to say that (in fact anything that starts with "you need to...")

Why forget about glands? I am not prepared to let our DD2 get her night and day all muddled up, and sleep all day and then be awake and very upset all night. That is not fair on her or us. I have already tried the baby led / attachment parenting stuff before, and although it works for some mums / babies, it was a disaster for us (and other friends). It just led to a baby that could not get to sleep and was upset both day and night.

I expect (and am very happy with) night waking to breastfeed, but I also expect some waking during the day! My OP was asking for help on tips for how to gently rouse a very sleepy baby during the day, and I would still love some help with that!