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At what age do they develop a decent pencil grip?

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longwaytogo · 30/04/2006 21:26

I only ask because I helped out at playgroup the other day and some children were drawing crosses, circles and some almost writing their names. My dd aged 3.3 yr can't even hold a pencil properly she just puts her whole hand around it and scribbles.

I've tried with her today to get her to hold it properly but everytime she picks another up she just holds it the old way again. She can draw sort of circles and did a cross earlier but won't be shown anything very easily.

Had a paed appointment last week and her assesment of her was that she scored age 3 in most things except speech and motor neuron skills so what can I do to encourage her or should I just leave her to do it in her own time.

Should also say that although her speech has come on leaps and bounds over the last 6 weeks she chooses not to speak at all at playgroup or nursery. She will say what colour things are if they ask her but will not enter into conversation. They just can't suss her out at all.

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hulababy · 30/04/2006 21:35

DD has had very a long time, mark making and then writing her name just before she turnd 3. However her friend of the same age, bar a couple of weeks, still struggles with this at just turned 4yo. Think, as with everything at this stage, there is a big difference between what they can/can't do in different areas.

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brimfull · 30/04/2006 21:51

My ds is very unwilling to practise this,ie. he doesn't like drawing ,painting etc.I even started a thead on this a few days ago.Hence his pencil control isn't brilliant.I'm hoping he will gradually
gain interest and practise more,but I am also grateful that he won't be staring reception until he is 5.He is 3.5 now.
You can get those triangular thingys to put on pencils to encourage the proper grip.

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awayninahmanger · 30/04/2006 21:54

yes my ds isn't very interested (3.7) so I don't push it

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threebob · 30/04/2006 21:56

Lots of dangling off things will help - sounds weird but it's true, and gripping things like trike handles the correct way. You don't have to like holding a pen to develop the muscles neccessary.

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Hattie05 · 30/04/2006 21:57

Its so down to the individual isn't it.

My dd has had good pencil control since i'd guess about 21/2, this is because imo she is quite particular about things especially involving fine motor skills. I'd sit and write words for her - she realised i was holding a pencil a certain way and so used to get really frustrated when she couldn't do the same and would always ask me to show her.

On the other hand, i'd say she took longer to develop her large motor skills, she was always a bit slow with pushing bikes and the little tikes cars around with her feet, when friends the same age were zipping around.

I'd say its a mix, of their likes and wants, and also the parents! Now i look back, i probably give dd a whole lot more attention when we are sitting down doing a puzzle or drawing together than i ever did, demonstrating how to ride a bike etc. Being in the garden = break for me to sit and watch her! Smile

Your questiona bout encouring her, or leaving her to do it in her own time. I think there is a happy medium there. Providing regular opportunity and support to practice those skills, but same time ensuring she doesn't feel to pressurised or bored of such activities. If one activity doesn't interest her, think of demonstrating those skills in another way.

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brimfull · 30/04/2006 22:03

Yes it's only natural for kids to want to do things they're good at.Ds is great at riding scooter/bike ,kicking and batting balls,all large motor skills.He's rather do those type of things than sit down and draw.

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awayninahmanger · 30/04/2006 22:05

mine too ggirl. We were at friend's house and she put out lots of craft stuff for them to colour and make cards, her two made beautiful collages with glitter etc he was off after 3 seconds

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longwaytogo · 30/04/2006 22:13

she can pedal a bike brilliantly which her ds's struggled with at her age.

I suppose i'm just concerned because her motor skills came out poor all because she wanted to cary on bulding a tower when she wanted her to build a bridge and because she wanted to scribble when she wanted her to draw circles and she wanted to draw circles when she wanted her to draw lines.

Think I just worry about her too much she is no where near her peers on lots of things but they are all first children she is no 3 of 4 I think it has made her slower at some things as big sisters always did everything for her, where as ds has done everything quickly just to keep up with the girls.

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Kittypickle · 30/04/2006 22:14

I'd get her doing things like play dough, threading & cutting, tracing things in sand and other activities that encourage fine motor skills. My DD has dyspraxia and has really struggled to hold a pencil properly. I left her too long I think without intervening as I just assumed she would develop it at her own pace. But I agree with Hattie that there is a happy medium to be struck.

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Hattie05 · 30/04/2006 22:16

Sometimes these assessment just scare people unnecessarily don't they.

Many 8mths old babies fail their hearing because they would rather look at something in front of them or out the window then to where the noise is behind them! Smile

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longwaytogo · 30/04/2006 22:23

right am going to make an effort to do more of cutting etc activities, don't do it very often because i just find it a nightmare with the two of them. just feel i'm failing her in some way but just can't work it out. Why won't she talk to anyone outside the house either - even those she sees on a regular basis.

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chipkid · 30/04/2006 22:27

my ds started reception at just a little over 4 and his pencil grip was rubbish-he is just starting his summer term and the transformation is amazing-try not to worry

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Kittypickle · 30/04/2006 22:35

I hope I didn't worry you mentioning my DD, just that it might be an idea to gently encourage her, without putting her off.If DD would have been my second I would have realised much earlier that the pencil grip was part of something else as all her motor skills, fine & gross were delayed.
Agree about all the tests - I bet she can do all the things the paed wanted her to do, just didn't want to at the time. My DS failed his hearing test for months, purely because he was so used to DD screeching behind him that he felt no need to turn round and listen to a pathetic, tiny noise.

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cat64 · 30/04/2006 22:48

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longwaytogo · 30/04/2006 22:58

cat64 thanks for all those ideas, these have been the things that we haven't really had or done. Will have to invest in some threading stuff and will try and play some pincer games with her too. Am definatly feeling like a bad mummy now, why haven't we got any of these type toys in our house. can't remember where we were recently and there was a threading game and she wasn't very good at it.

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