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Mothers of boys-advice please, dont think i handled this very well....

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tiredemma · 27/04/2006 14:09

dont know where to start with this, part of me feels that im behaving irrationaly and another part of me feels a bit sick.

here goes...

last night, same as any other night both Ds's were in the bath together. Ds1 is 5 (6 in sept) and Ds2 is 3. They were both splashing about, playing, laughing etc.
anyway, i had to run downstairs to get a nappy, and then the phone rang for dp so i went into the living room to pass him the phone, as i was going back up the stairs i heard ds1 giggling and as i walked into the bathroom noticed that his willy (thats what its called in our house) was semi-erect,and ds2 was giggling and laughing.

I said to ds1 "what are you up to?" ( my heart was racing etc and ears ringing- felt as if i was going to pass out) he said " nothing, we are just playing" - so iasked ds2 "what were you doing then?" and he was chuckling away and said " eating xxxxx willy". They were both laughing, but i didnt handle it very well, i said to ds1 -" why did you let him do that" and ds1 said " because its fun"

immediatly i launched into telling him that he can no longer share a bath with his brother, that what they had been doing was wrong, tbh- i cant really remember what i said as my head was ringing.

i took them both out of the bath and got them dressed for bed, put ds2 to bed and went into ds1's room and he looked all sad. i cuddled him and told him that what he was doing was wrong for brothers to do, he shouldnt do it etc.
he got all upset and asked " does it mea that we will get poorly and die?" and i told him that no- he just shouldnt do it again.

he went to bed ok, dp was still on the phone downstairs, when he got off i suggested that he may need to talk to ds1 about what had happened, he just said, " no, not if you have already dealt with it- dont embarrase him, dont make an issue out of it"

this has pissed me off abit because i think i have handled it all wrong, i dont want either of them to grow up with a complex about their bits but equally i dont want them to think that what they were doing was ok.

Its the first time i have come across this, deep down i feel that ds1 is old enough to know better, and this is what saddens me the most, why was he doing this??

im so upset about it, havent stopped thinking about it all night and have spent most of this morning with tears rolling down my face.

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pooka · 27/04/2006 14:22

Hmmm. Part of me thinks that your dp is right to say that you should let the subject drop - simply because I'm not sure that going on about it is a good idea. You obviously made it clear that you felt that it was inappropriate and your ds1's reaction (sadness) suggests that he's taken in on board. Maybe wait and see whether he broaches the subject himself, and if he does then go ahead and maybe give the talk about privates being private.

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NotAnOtter · 27/04/2006 14:24

me too - i think just let it lie....
Your boys will soon forget it even if you dont!
Not to worry its just silly and natural!

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pooka · 27/04/2006 14:24

Should add that I have a girl of nearly 3 and a 7 month old boy so have never come across this myself. However, I reckon that this type of experimentation is not uncommon - my nephews were always being told to let go of their willies and even now dd has taken to inspecting her "gina" at the dinner table.

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beetroot · 27/04/2006 14:27

tigermoth. boys play. it is normal. it is funny is feels nice.

i would not worry about it and not make anymore fuss.

it is not a BAD thing to do.

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MrsMills · 27/04/2006 14:28

Firstly stop beating yourself up about it, you did what you did, there is no right answer to this.
Secondly I would just get on with things. See if he mentions it and then explain why it's wrong, however you want to put it. The likelyhood is that it'll be forgotten about, but don't worry about it. Boys and their bits ho humm!

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tiredemma · 27/04/2006 14:29

thats why i feel so awful now beetroot, i dont want him to think thats bad, ive flown off the handle and now feel crap.

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shimmy21 · 27/04/2006 14:32

Sorry, but this is par for the course with 2 boys! Erections in little kids are shocking but totally completely normal even from babyhood. It is also normal for boys to discover that playing with their bits feels nice.
But we don't really want to be encourage brother on brother 'experiments' either. I tend to deal with this sort of incident (and there have been 2 or 3 now) by saying that willies are very private places and you shouldn't touch each other's willies or let anyone touch yours. Don't stress over this. You haven't done anything wrong.

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puddle · 27/04/2006 14:34

My ds is just 6 and I am having to teach him appropriate behaviour too - it's very hard to strike that balance between wanting them to be confident about their bodies and unembarrassed but also teach them about what society expects re: behaviour. My ds has a bath with his three year old sister and she has been known to yank his willy on occasion - all daftness and experimentation. I don't think your ds is old enough to know that it was wrong to be honest, he's only 5 - he probably thinks it is the same as putting his toe in your ds's mouth.

From what you've written it seems as though your ds knows it was wrong but isn't sure why. I would have a chat with him before the bath tonight about his body and the bits that he only is allowed to touch and that he shouldn't let anyone else play with. I often say to my two that those bits are special and need to be treated gently and carefully.

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tiredemma · 27/04/2006 14:35

thanks for re-assuring me.

the erection thing, although weird to see doesnt bother me, thats normal, they always have them!

it was just the whole "eating willy" thing that threw me.

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MrsMills · 27/04/2006 14:36

it's only because you've got a dirty mind Wink

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tiredemma · 27/04/2006 14:36

i suppose!!

thanks you lot, the voice of reason as always xx

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Rhubarb · 27/04/2006 14:37

Oh dear. What I would do is to have a nice little chat with your ds1 about his bits. Tell him that his bits are beautiful and part of his body, a lovely part. BUT, he shouldn't let anyone touch those bits just yet because it's a private part of himself. Apologise for shouting at him and tell him that he's not bad, nor is his little brother, but he shouldn't really use his bits in that way. When he is a big boy, tell him that he will understand more about his bits then, but for now they're private, a thing just for him.

Then give him a huge cuddle!!!!

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beetroot · 27/04/2006 14:41

sorry tiredemma..(got name wrong0

yo are allowed to fly of thehandle. we do this somewtimes. we make judgements that we may well , given time to think, have doen differntly.

However, let him and his brother have a bath together tonight and this will show him that there is no hard feelings

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beetroot · 27/04/2006 14:41

nice one rhubarb

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starlover · 27/04/2006 14:46

was gonna post but Rhubarb has pretty much summed up what I was going to say!

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WigWamBam · 27/04/2006 14:52

Me too, starlover ... good post, Rhubarb.

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singersgirl · 27/04/2006 14:55

Have said something similar to Rhubarb (though not as eloquently) to my two, who are 7 and 4. They do a lot of bum sniffing in the bath which is just as bad. They think it's hilarious.

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throckenholt · 27/04/2006 14:56

agree with Rhubarb's approach - and definitely don't stop them having baths together.

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Heathcliffscathy · 27/04/2006 14:59

good post rhubarb. i do think that they will play and it isn't wrong too.

when ds gets an erection (often when he has woken up and am getting him out of his nappy in the morning, sometimes i think he finds it quite frightening ('mummy, look', in unhappy voice)....i just say oh look you've got a little stiffy, don't worry it will go down soon it's fine....

that's probalby all wrong too....

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Heathcliffscathy · 27/04/2006 15:00

he's 2 1/2 btw

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Marina · 27/04/2006 15:03

Ds and dd are always snurking at each other's bits in the tub. Ds maintains dd's fell off, dd does her best to return the compliment.
tiredemma, don't worry :) We all sometimes overreact to this, it's hard not to. In our house it is me who chills (often having to leave the room to have a good snigger) while dh is a bit anxious about it. Please try not to be too upset, the boys will forget about it all really quickly if you seem to have.

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sniff · 27/04/2006 15:05

my boys 7 & 2 were obsessed with willies the older one grew out of it as the younger one started to mess adn pull on his when he gets it to grow he proudly shows his brother the latest trick!!! the youngest will also try to touch everyone elses

you were just shocked dont beat yourself up about it I agree with Rhubarbs post

they will be farting in the bath together next to see who can make the most bubbles

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