Still stuck between two names and now two weeks old! Help!

(40 Posts)
Sparklies Thu 12-May-11 11:43:50

Thanks to everyone who responded to my first thread: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/baby_names/1208667-8-days-old-and-at-this-rate-were-going-to-be-stuck-with-Nigel-Help

Baby boy is two weeks old now (took us three weeks to name DC1 so we're not doing so badly..) and we really have narrowed it down to two names - Raphael and Gabriel with possibly "Flynn" as a middle name. Not really considering any other first names at this point.

Raphael pros:

* Love the nicknames (Rafe/Raffi etc) and feel they suit him
* It's quite unusual
* Love the meaning ("God has healed") as it reflects the journey to get him

Raphael cons:

* Doesn't go so well with our existing children's names
* Might sound a bit "foreign" - baby boy is fair skinned and has red hair but I've heard people say they think of a Raphael as dark haired at the very least - often a bit Mediterranean in appearance.
* Does not go as well with "Flynn"

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Gabriel pros:

* Love the long version
* Goes with our other children's names better as it sounds less "foreign" despite both of these names being almost identical in origin
* Goes better with "Flynn"

Gabriel cons:

* I really, really HATE "Gabe", and "Gabby" sounds too feminine - this is my big issue really
* It's a lot more common, especially in the US where we may move (#24 or something)
* Sounds more religious and we're not religious
* The name meaning doesn't mean a whole lot to me

This is so hard! Honestly, it was easier to decide whether or not to get an amnio than it was picking his name..

Any thoughts welcome!! We're pretty much stuck and need something to help tip us one way or the other without regrets.

Suncottage Thu 12-May-11 11:46:34

Go to the bottom of your stairs and shout both names out as if you are calling him down for dinner in a few years time.

Which one sounds right?

Noop Thu 12-May-11 11:56:21

I vote for Raphael! I love the meaning.

We chose our DCs names based on what they were likely to be called and what suited them. And it took us 5 and a half weeks to name DS1! We narrowed it down to Rory and Dominic and ended up using both names. We decided Rory suited him better and so Dominic became his middle name.

pinkhebe Thu 12-May-11 12:02:50

I know a Gabriel, but he's known as Gaby (Gay-bee) which is much less feminine sounding as Gabby (gabb-ee), He is so not feminine grin

I also like Raffy

seeker Thu 12-May-11 12:13:28

I think I would go for Raphael because Gabe is horrible and any other shortening sound too girlish, and Raff is OK

But I think they both sound a bit....Islingtonish, sorry!

Katyrah Thu 12-May-11 12:17:03

I'd go for Raphael purely because you sound more enthusiastic about the meanings and the actual name, who cares if people think it sounds foreign!

timetomove Thu 12-May-11 12:24:50

What about Rafferty - you can still use Raff/Raffy. Name sounds more Irish than Meditterranean so might suit his colouring better?

What are the names of your other DCs in case that helps us?

Also what about Flynn as the first name?

tammytoby Thu 12-May-11 12:26:41

"But I think they both sound a bit....Islingtonish"

Is this good or bad hmm?

tammytoby Thu 12-May-11 12:27:25

I like both but prefer Gabriel. Good solid name imo.

hellojude Thu 12-May-11 12:30:45

Why not go with Rafferty / Rafe instead of Raphael?

If you hate the nn's for Gabriel, IMO that would right it off the list. As no matter how hard you try it will become Gab's etc.

FoxyRevenger Thu 12-May-11 12:52:18

I think you prefer Raphael yourself secretly smile

I prefer Gabriel, but prefer the shortened versions of Raphael. I don't like Raphael. I like Rafferty though.

robincousins Thu 12-May-11 13:07:30

love both but prefer gabriel wiyh your other dcs names

flopsy1974 Thu 12-May-11 13:50:00

If you don't like gabe then I would definately go for Raphael as I don't think you can avoid shortenings to most boys names. Good luck choosing.

coolascucumber Thu 12-May-11 13:55:05

Why don't you just call him Rafe? Rafe Flynn sounds great. Raphael a bit elaborate. Too Ninja turtles. Gabriel OK but the kids will need to be cool to carry it off

oohlaalaa Thu 12-May-11 14:01:34

I vote for Gabriel

oohlaalaa Thu 12-May-11 14:04:36

ooh, I prefer Rafferty to both Raphael and Gabriel. I like Raphael, it just didnt seem right for a red headed little boy.

ExitPursuedByALamb Thu 12-May-11 14:06:49

Like Rafferty - a lot. Or Ranulph?

poppydaisy Thu 12-May-11 14:06:59

If you're British and in the UK I prefer Gabriel - lovely strong name imo. The one I know gets called by his full name, so far anyway.
Raphael sounds very Spanish to me and I too associate dark haired boys/men with this name.

Not sure either whether 'Islingtonish' is good or bad, by the way hmm.

naturalbaby Thu 12-May-11 14:15:02

I love Gabriel but I chose religious names for my kids. Reading your cons list I think Raphael will suit you more. DS3's name doesn't go as well as ds1 & ds2's names go together.

DS2 was almost 6 weeks old till we registered his name. We went with the 1st one we chose in the end and even spent a couple of weeks calling him a different name to see what suited.

BeattieBow Thu 12-May-11 14:17:35

From your post it seems that you prefer Raphael. fwiw i like both of them!

Sparklies Thu 12-May-11 14:18:48

Thanks everyone! Food for thought as always!

I quite like Rafferty, but DH has vetoed it so that's a no unfortunately sad

Foxy is right in that I do prefer Raphael, but I'm being held back by the cons. DH prefers Gabriel! I guess I'm hoping for something that will sway either DH or me over to the other side.

"Gay-bee" is not a bad NN and one I hadn't thought of, although as always I am wary of the whole "gay" nn issue.. but children get teased regardless. Poor baby is already doomed with his hair colouring (why?!!! I love red hair. Grrr!) and if he inherits my dreadful-but-now-fixed teeth I think his name will be the least of his problems..

evamummy Thu 12-May-11 14:19:53

Another vote for Gabriel. Love it.

Raphael is ok but sounds a little pretentious.

emmanumber3 Thu 12-May-11 14:26:53

Imagine yourself saying each name over & over again for the rest of your life. Which one do you think you'll get sick of first? Choose the other smile.

As I said on your first thread, I like Flynn best of all 3 possible names. If Flynn is a definite for middle name it probably would fit best with Gabriel. But then again, if you prefer Raphael how many times would people use the full "Raphael Flynn Lastname" anyway?

This baby naming business is harder than it looks grin.

Sparklies Thu 12-May-11 14:48:42

We do like Flynn, but the trouble is we have a Bethan and a Catherine and "Flynn" sounds too close. Can't decide if that matters a lot or not!

Currently we're almost thinking of calling him "Gabriel" with the nickname "Raffy" just to be silly! wink

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