New thread over here Hope its OK and see you over there!

Diege, I had something similar about 8 months after having DD1 then again a couple of months after DD2, I've never had piles () but I was bleeding a LOT of bright red blood (enough to turn the water red and big drips in the toilet) and had the broken glass pains with every poo. I never did get round to going to the doctor but it took a good couple of months to heal each time. Btw, the best bottom-friendly way to poo is to squat, so I used to climb up and crouch on the toilet seat - much easier and waaaay less painful!

Oh and can I join in with the complaining?

- I have insomnia
- I am exhausted
- I'm still being sick sometimes
- I have the beginnings of vulval varicose veins again (had them badly with DD2)
- My jeans keep falling down and I can't find any that fit - apparently I'm just a stupid shape
- I have no idea how I'm going to cope with another baby
- My home is a mess and I have no energy to do anything about it
- my children are being neglected and I'm finding it hard to care
- My boobs are growing stupidly fast but are REALLY painful and feel like bags of rocks

Go for it STT!
Glad you got CD LBOX , don't thank me, thank SORKY
TINKS, I would just go to chemist and get something like diflucan (oral tablet) that should clear it up pretty quick (though pricey). My GP just prescribes and doesn;lt take a swab etc for thrush, so if you just want quick results and don't mind paying, I'd just go to chemists.
Right, better go. J's been grisley all pm and has brought up lots of milk, so will see how he goes with this feed.

Crikey - any new thread title suggestions?

Umm, something to do with wagons, whinging, winding and teething?

Sorry for just ignoring everyone else

Diege - sorry you are suffering but I would go to GP.

Tink - I would try to get an appointment as you will be away if thrush treatment doesn't help.

Kay - yah for teeth

Hi STT and LBOT

Can I join the whinge?

I am GRUMPY.

- I have insomnia and can't get comfortable at night
- I have restless leg syndrome
- I am exhausted but don't have the sense to plan less so am crazy busy all week, late nights and full days
- I have heartburn and keep belching
- I have don't piles (yet) thank god
- My jeans and trousers are uncomfortable and I can't find any that fit - apparently I'm just a stupid shape
- I'm hungry but feel too full to eat and get indigestion when I do
- I'm shitting myself about the birth and I've still got 10.5 weeks to go till due date but am also totally impatient to get there (stupid contrary person that I am)
- I have no idea how I'm going to cope with a baby, I know nothing!
- My home is a mess and I have no energy to do anything about it
- I feel totally unprepared for this baby, in every sense yet can't figure out what to do to get prepared.
- I can't relax when listening to the hypnobirthing CD's
- My birthing ball is flat and DH won't help pump it up
- I don't even understand some of the exercises I'm supposed to be doing plus I keep promising myself I WILL do pelvic floor exercises, breathing exercises and try to sit forwards to encourage baby to get ready but am too bloody busy, tired and fed up to get round to any of it.

That's it for now, but will probably think of more...

I felt great up until 2 weeks ago. What has happened???

wow kay he is doing well having 2 teeth

diege - i suspect probably thrush :-
with having the implant put in them 3 mnths of periods non stop then being put on pill hav been taking for a mnth periods stopped straight away :- now dryer

right ladies do i :-

number 1 - ring up gum clinic and try and get appmnt when they open today 4:30-6:30pm
or
number 2 - get dh to buy thrush treatments on the way hom

main reason is we go away to centre parcs on monday so want it be cleared up.

stt - lol

insomnia - have you tried paracetemol before bed i found this helped when pregnant
exhaustion - try and sit if possible
food - just eat what you can
birth- try not to worry you have done it before you will have a gorgoues baby
dont worry about mess do what you can get dh to help
get dh 2 pump up ball luved min sat on it while watching tv

received dd1s rosebud bday bits they r great
good timing as she was @ nursery all day
luved her party
they had a puppet and magic show and games

Afternoon ladies

Diege - I meant to say ages ago THANK YOU fro the CD! It arrived the day after you sent it. How rude of me to have not thanked you!

As for piles...well, I can sympathize!

STT can I steal your list? These all apply to me too!:

I am GRUMPY.

- I have insomnia
- I am exhausted
- I have heartburn
- I have piles
- My jeans trousers keep falling down are just incredibly uncomfortable and I can't find any that fit my huge bump
- I'm totally off my food
- I'm shitting myself about the birth
- I have no idea how I'm going to cope with another a baby
- My home is a mess and I have no energy to do anything about it
- I feel totally unprepared for this baby, in every sense

Oh, and I just bought five pair of granny pants

<<sigh>>

I know its normal - at least that's what I'm telling myself, but I still feel like stamping my feet and crying.

It doesn't help either that DH has just announced that he doesn't think he's up to the job of 'birth partner', I think I'm putting too much pressure on him and now he thinks he can't do it - I just want him to make some kind of effort and show some kind of interest - but its really like he doesn't give a shit. He was the same last time.

Am also wondering if perhaps I should just opt for an elective CS. That would take all the uncertainty out of it wouldn't it.

Oh STT . I shouldn't laugh but there are so many on your list that are just so familiar (not inc. the piles . ) Birth ball and jeans were biggies for me . I prescribe a trip to the shops for treats and a big reassurance (touching on the condescenidng) that it is all perfectly normal to feel like this

Hi guys.

Can I whinge?

<<carries on the piles talk>>

I am GRUMPY.

- I have insomnia
- I have restless leg syndrome
- I am exhausted
- I have heartburn
- I have piles
- My jeans keep falling down and I can't find any that fit - apparently I'm just a stupid shape
- I'm totally off my food
- I'm shitting myself about the birth and I've still got 12 weeks to go till due date
- I have no idea how I'm going to cope with another baby
- My home is a mess and I have no energy to do anything about it
- I feel totally unprepared for this baby, in every sense
- I can't relax when listening to the hypnobirthing CD's
- My birthing ball seems too soft and DH won't help pump it up
- I don't even understand some of the exercises I'm supposed to be doing

That's it for now, but will probably think of more...

As you were...

Bloomin eck KAYZ he'll look like before the end of the day!

Just found another tooth next to the other one. DS1 was terrible with his teeth so I was expecting DS2 would be the same. But he doesn't seem bothered.

Hi NAT <continuing the piles talk> The thing is I had piles when pregnant until only a few weeks ago, but these have now gone and I'm left with bright red bleeding and this broken glass thing . There's no way I'm going to the gps with an anal fissure though
So what's happening in BB house? Last time I saw it this year was first eviction week. Decided to go for a wee before results were announced and waters went! Never did find out who went that first week
Oh and J gave his first big gummy smile this morning - at himself in the playgym mirror

LMAO Diege, anyone ever tell you that sharing is not always the nice thing to do? (Ouch though! - Poor you)

Kayz, hoorah for tooth

LB hope DD makes a speedy recovery, poor little thing, it is horrible when they're ill.

Enjoy the TV Tink

Have just fully caught up with BB10, I don't watch it from Thursday night till Monday, takes me all week to catch up while DS2 has his nap, just in time to see one or two 'live' and then I'm back to playing catch up again. I should really give up and come to terms with the fact that I don't have time in my diary to fit an hours worth of crap telly in a day, but then I might miss something, and although I know what's happened even when I've not watched it yet, I need to see it!

Shall we return to talking about piles?

Hi TINK! What are we like with our sore bits and pieces . Could it be thrush with you going on pill? I know I always get thrush on the combined pill. Leapfrog book sounds a bargain - well done!
I must get dressed . Headache gone now, but has really taken it out of me but have loads to do inc. e-bay listing which I hate! Hve self-diagnised anal fissure rather than piles, due to 'passing broken glass' sensation. Thought I should share that with you all

morning

must post quick havent fed bracken

did food shop last nite found leapfrog tag system book under the sea in tesco sale for only £3 well chuffed

tmi alert i have sore dodah going to ring gum and try and get appmnt especially as we are on hols to centre parcs from mon.
assuming sore due to having implant then period for 3 mnths then have been on combined pill for one month to stop bleeding

dd1 @ last whole day @ nursery today they are having a party has gone in a preety yellow dress with white hearts on

took bracken to jolly babies

planning on tv watching

What a morning.... arrrrrrrr......

Morning everyone... Hope you and all the little ones are well...

Thanks for all the advice re breast feeding. I will just carry on as I am then... Day two of me being back on dairy and as yet no reaction from ds. I have had cheese yippee........ So missed that!!!!

DS is teething really badly, which has come as a shock to me as dd didn't get any teeth until she was over one and then didn't suffer at all. DS has a really sore bum, drooling badly (how do you spell drooling?), is moody, is putting everything in his mouth (what do I do about that as it is not all sterile), and his gums are like rock...

Kay yay for tooth I dont think ds will be far behind....

Sorky thanks for advice he does suck really quickly then slow down and poo (when it comes) is yellow as well....

Nat sorry for poorly boys, we have the same here (except for temp) ds is full of it and dd woke up last night and was sick she was coughing so much. Just back from gp with AB as she has a chest infection so I am even more worried about Swine flu now as her immune system will be busy fighting this and her lungs are already infected!!!!

Diege sorry dd woke the house up but yay for j's routine.

I must be the only one with a baby that is still in no routine and that is still not sleeping.... It is Karma bitting me in my big fat arse because I used to gloat when dd settled into her routine at 7 weeks (feeding every four hours during the day and went through the night etc...) Karma is a bitch and then some!!!!!

I bet he looks really cute KAYZ
SORKY, what to do indeed! I think if I was sure she wasn't hungry, I would try and settle without feeding and get quite tough. Having said that, it depends how much of a problem frequent night feeding is for you. As you know, they all grow out of it - just depends if you can/want to put up with it! I think at the very least I would maybe try a dummy to see if it's comfort, or even poffer cooled boiled water, but then I am hard faced when it comes to my sleep!
LBOX, good news about the cramps . Oh have been meaning to ask for days now whether the CD arrived? Was sent on the 4th, so if it hasn't may be looking at Royal Fail doing it's finest again
Have a severe headache here - seemingly a side effect of the pile cream I used this morning . Came on with a few mins of applying, and according to leaflet is v.common side effect (more than one in 10 chance). So, I have the choice of severe bottom pain (and I mean lots of blood and glass up the bum sensation) or severe headache?? Any advice SES if you're lurking?? Sorry if TMI!!!

Hello everyone:

Sorky - sorry I meant to say Happy Belated Birthday! Hope you had a good one!

Diege - glad to hear about the house! Exciting! But a bit cheeky of the buyers to request your appliances. In the US you actually expect them to be there, but here I know it's different. Suppose if the sale depended on it... No more cramps - a few little niggles, but nothing like they were on Saturday.

IDOB - glad they managed to find an alternative course for you and DH to go to. Our instructor seemed to be coming out with really wild comments this past week About men being able to breast feed and dinosaurs becoming extinct because they didn't feed their babies....

Bump - As always I don't have any BFing advice, but what the others have said seems to be really sensible in terms of if he was hungry he wouldn't be happy...

Nat - sorry your little ones are not doing well Hoping it gets better at your house soon.

Kay - Congrats on the tooth! and glad to hear teething hasn't been difficult!

Have just today and then Friday at work and then I'm free!!!! Managed to get kitchen cupboards organised yesterday and got my hair cut. Very vain of me as I know there will be photos once the little guy makes his appearance! Speaking of which, I had a dream about him this morning where I actually saw him. He was very cute! Very very cute.

LB he will be getting all his milky needs in 5-10 minutes at his age so just keep going I'd say. As they get older they get much better at feeding, less frequently, faster etc.
Your breasts shouldn't get 'full' as such if he goes a bit longer, but you should get let-down I would've thought.

When he's feeding does he suck fast, then slow down a bit? If he's still doing that then the balance will be right and he's just better at feeding, as is your body as Nat says.

Last night was fine, did the 11pm feed, took both sides and was lots of milk -all good- BUT the little stinker then woke wanting to be fed at 1.30am, 4am, 6am and then I got her up at 8am so we're an hour out of schedule today.

She can't be hungry can she? What to do Diege, what to do?

Cheeky feckers your buyers aren't they? They obv have no shame!

Congratulations Kayz

It's the one at the front at the bottom.

Oh wow KAYZ a tooth ; which one is it?
Hi NAT! Sorry for the poorlies - what a nightmare . You made me chuckle with the hosue thing - my thoughts exactly, I mean what next?? Our beds, clothes??!!!, PFB (precious fourth born) . I think it relates to the fact that they want to rent out our house initially, but I've found some cheap reconditioned ones that we'll buy for them if it's a deal-breaker, as the dishwasher actually is pretty special ; a wedding pressie, and pretty top of range...just worried what else they want!! Honestly, we're not selling a furnished house
LB, agree with what others have said - no way would O be so alert if he was hungry - babies that aren't getting enough are generally either screaming all the time or sleep.
J was on to a good night's sleep last night I think until dd3 decided to scream down the house at 3am and wake us all up . Ended up feeding him then, and he settled back till 7, so not too bad. Struggled to sleep myself last night as had had 10 mins nap at 1pm...tis always the way when I nap. May have to last out today just so I can fall asleep at a decent hour!
Very dark, cloudy and rainy here. Hads plans to go to local retail park for a mooch, but may stay local instead. Hope everyone has good days

DS2 has a tooth!!! He's just bitten me and there is a tooth. He hasn't been crying or doing any of the stuff DS1 did.

Just seen Argos have got 15% off all nursery and baby things if anyone is interested? It's on their homepage, you have to enter a code at checkout, code is also on the homepage in one of the flashy ad's

Morning Kay

Happy anniversary, shame about DH having to work it though.

Morning

Am bloody shattered, DS2 and 3 both full of colds, coughs, runny noses, high temps (DS2 has me running in circles every time his temp. rises, he fit's if it get's too bad, and am watching Mikey like a hawk in case he does it as well) DS1 is still full of hayfever, wouldn't mind but it's been raining most of the week so far so how he is still reacting to it so badly I don't know, always thought the rain dampened the pollen down so it sticks to the floor, instead of flying around?

Also really pleased that both Owen's are doing so well LB, you'd know if he wasn't getting enough food, and your milk supply is probably just responding to his feeding pattern, it's that supply and demand thing, now O is in his routine (might not be the routine that you like, but he is in one at least!) the milk will be produced according to that routine. And FWIW, DS2 only ever fed for 5 or 10 minutes at a time, he wasn't a bad sleeper, he was the size of a baby giant (Mikey is pretty huge, but DS2 was in a different league!), and he didn't need/want weaning till just over 6 months, so even 5 minute feeds can be more than enough. Think he was described as a "very efficient feeder" by my BFC!

Glask sound's like Ruby is doing really well - well done you!

Diege, that is great about the house I wouldn't be too sure about leaving the appliances, I suppose if the whole deal depended on it, I'd have to, but seriously, I'd never dream of insisting the seller left anything like that! I mean fair enough you'd like to think they'd leave the light bulbs and the windows and doors, (), but appliances, that's like asking someone to leave their bed, or the sofas, or a child (hey, that's an idea!! ) Did you get them when you did the kitchen? Do they match in with the style of it or something? Are you're appliances very very very special? Are they made of solid gold with diamonds for knobs?! ...Or chocolate?

What is it about the Next Directory? You can see the same thing on-line and in the store and think "no, there's nicer things somewhere else" but you see that exact same thing in the book and you have to get it, that day, in 3 sizes because it's free returns and 15 colours just in case Can you tell why I closed my account a few years back? Hate to think how much I'd owe them by now if I hadn't have made myself close it! Think I've mentioned before am pretty shit when it comes to money, cash in my purse can stay there for days at a time, whereas give me a bit of plastic and I'll only come home from town when I can't carry any more....

Sorky, sorry I also missed your birthday, glad you had a good day ...And a good holiday We had the holiday talk again last night, both of us are desparate to get away for a couple of weeks, we've so nearly talked ourselves into it a few times now but then the sensible head get's in the way, we've two in nappies, one on formula, how we'd manage the airport with four suitcases (which we'd need for all the nappies and formula!), a couple of flight bags, 3 kids, and the buggy, I've no idea, and then we've got the driving/moving house/moving schools thing, which next month is going to very much take over our household (unless swine 'flu get's us first ) it wouldn't be a holiday, it'd be a nightmare!

Right I am away before I ramble any more, and to dream of distant shores where there's sun and wine, and <whispers> kids clubs

Morning,

Bump, I'm not really sure but like you I would think that if he wasn't crying for food and was alert and happy, then he isn't hungry.

It is our 3 year wedding anniversary today. DH wasn't allowed to have the day off work so is at work at 2

Hope everyone is well.

Hello all. Thanks for all the nice messages. My mum is still in hospital. They have opperated on her wrist but have not stitched it up yet so she has an open wound. Once they confirm that everything inside is all ok they will stitch it up and she will be aloud home (hopefully Friday

I am getting more scared by the day about swine flu. It is rife around here and I am so worried for dd and ds...

i still have no routine for ds, he doesn't sleep during the day hardly at all and feeds at totaly different times. Speaking of feeding my supply has dwindled a lot I no longer feel full if he does't feed for a long time. I also dont feel any let down!! He tends to feed for only a few mins at a time then comes off.... I am worried he isn't getting enough food but at the same time he isn't crying for food and is very alert and awake all day so think he must be... What do you all think?

ooh I'll try and put some links up of the house(s) but will have to find out how these links work first Bleedin' buyer is now wanting out dishwasher and washing machine too so thinking how to deal with that one..
IDOB, I thought 'the T' was some sort of shorthand for the truly NCT affiliated . I actually thought 'get her with 'the T'', it'll be all Michel Odent and burying the placenta next
SORKY, great going with the gf . Also had a better evening here with J settling 7ish and still asleep..it helped that he was awake for an hour and a half this afternoon, so was actually tired at 7. I even risked going at at 3.35 rather than 4.15 and seem to have got away with it...
Hello to everyone else - off to watch that drama about the recession, so night all and speak tomorrow xxx

hi there sorky

good about GF! my DS seems to be doing well with it too.

ooh thanks for NEXT ordering tip - maybe i will after all

good idea re diege houses! come on lets see them please!

My NEXT directory arrived today. All the kids are in bed, I have a glass of wine, Dh is at the gym, so I'm all set.

I'm ordering tonight if there's anything I like though 'cos Spring/Summer good stuff shot out of stock by the time I decided to buy, grr!

Yay for pink teeny-tiny shoes Moos

LB sorry to hear about your mum It puts you right between a rock n a hard place doesn't it?
My mother breeds dogs and I'm allergic! She would keep them out of the way I think.. I hope her op goes okay. Was the fight out of their nature? Is she thinking of maybe rehoming one of them to prevent it?

Great news about Ruby's weight Glask She'll be huge before you know it!

Glad the Owen's are all mending nicely ;)

Diege I'm pleased to hear you've sold the house, we'll need the online details of any houses you're thinking about to Wagon-vet them

I'm trying GF again today and so far so good, she's made all the sleeps or thereabouts and all the feeds per schedule. She's in her cot (first time) and will wake her at 10.30pm.
I thought my milk supply might be on the decrease, but that's because she wasn't going longer than 2 hours during the day. This morning, with some grumbling, she managed 3.5 hours and took a huge feed from both sides (unheard of), so hopefully she'll stay in this groove

The directory is calling me.....

Oh and I now have three pushchairs

Will be selling one of them (mountain buggy which is too big for the car) bought a quinny buzz off ebay. It is in great condition - looks new and got it for £80. DH wants to sell our first pushchair, a bebe confort. But I dont want to as its so light and I have to say I'm too attached as its my PFB. Precious First Buggy

whoops...

meant to say Ses glad that Owen is all sorted

LB - glad your Owen is all sorted too, sorry to hear about your mum and dogs. I was away at weekend at my sisters and her dogs were shut out of the room when DS was on the floor etc. They are good tempered dogs too!

Glask - hope your mum is better soon. My best friend who is pregnant had swine flu last week, but she is ok now.

Sorry to anyone Ive missed!

Hello all,

Tink/Diege I also received Next directory today! Have seen a few bits I like but not sure whether I will be buying anything yet

I went to see GYo and SG today and it was lovely!Have took some pics of SG and GC so will try get them onto FB wagon at some point this evening.

IDOB - that is a shame about the NCT course. Good that they have found an alternative for you. How far is Hull from you? I really enjoyed NCT and meet up weekly with the ladies from our group and monthly for Sunday lunch with the menfolk

Diege - house sounds lush - I love old houses. I really want a house. We are trying to pay off as much of mortgage as poss each month at the mo so that we can be in a house in the next couple of years. The house prices around here are not cheap!

Moosy - dont't worry re pink shoes. I have a lot of girls stuff and I had actually found out it was a girl only to have a boy!So if baby turns out to be a boy just keep it for the next one

ooh mum has just rang - back in bit

Ses - glad Owen

oh moosy - good shopping

idofb - glad u have found another nct course
diege - next books are so heavy i always shop in there have an account
ye for house

Oops - not sure where the NC part of NCT went.

Well someone has called from the T and told us we can transfer to a course running on 2 Saturdays in Hull. It's not ideal but at least they have found something for us.

Afternoon! Good news that treatment has worked well SES - was it the same GP as yesterday??
TINKS, have also received new Next directory this morning - nearly broke wrist picking it up . Went straight to baby boy things and there are a few nice bits, but really like the brighter colours of H&M and also mini-boden.
LBOX, how are you feeling today - any more cramps etc?
Well we've sold the house!!!! Now need to look seriously at getter a good offer on the one we love - an old 1850s house with a massive garden but bang in middle of the village, but we would have to get quite a bit knocked off to give us scope to modernise etc. Don't want to get drawn into increased offers, as know from experience that old houses can become a millstone if your budget is squeezed. Have another one we like too in reserve, so trying to keep calm!
Ds on baby gym for first time and is actually awake! Trouble is minute I put himin pram he zonks out - that's the downside of gf - goodish nights, but a prisoner until 4.15 when I'm 'allowed' to go out

You'd all have been so proud if you'd seen me today, I went to the Monsoon sale and I've bought a pair of pink baby shoes! The lady at the till said "ooh are you having a girl?" I replied "I don't know.... hmm, now I feel a bit silly " I've got a week to return them, but the scan is in 8 days. They are pretty though

Glad the 2 Owens are doing well, Ses both DDs had small granulomas that didn't need treating, DD1's has vanished now but DD2's is still a bit visible but her tummy button is still a little bit outy although it is getting inny-er.

LB, I hope your O carries on getting better, I weaned DD1 early because of her reflux and sometimes I wonder if I should've waited as her guts have never been right, but then it might not be connected, who knows? TBH it didn't actually make that much difference to her sickness either, it just varied the colour of it!

Glask, I have a box of baby clothes that are never to be passed on, my mum has the same too.

glad o all finished
glad dh is getting treatment

regarding bday and xmas i usually ask family members and friends for money so i can have fun choosing things for dds

just received next autumn/winter cat already[shcok] have made a list of clothes for dd1 will buy mid sept

such a shame about nct i did it when pregnant with dd1.

We were back at GP this morning for O's granuloma. This was the 4th treatment of silver nitrate and she said it had been one of the largest she had seen. It has now shrunk right back so today's was the last treatment

DH's appointment was this morning too. He had blood taken to test for diabetes, cholesterol and thyroid disorders as well as full blood count. He also has to have a 24hr heart monitor at some point and was told he'll probably have to take medication to control his blood pressure. I'm pleased that at least he's doing something about it now.

LBOT - make the most of the rain and don't do too much!
LOL at me being a stage mum!!

Glask - Phew for your mum!

Hi LBOT, the course was over 3 weekends but they said she was seriously ill and wouldn't be able to do any of the dates. It is annoying though - surely they can offer some alternatives.

What a shame you can't do DIY and just have to relax instead .

Hello everyone
I'm off today and had all sorts of --painting/DIY-- planned but the rain is sort of ruining my planst

IDOB - about your NCT class! Is it the condensed/weekend one or are you meant to go every week? Can't see why they wouldn't postpone and/or find another instructor Do you have any contact details for the others who were meant to be on your course? Possible to get together and complain? I wouldn't let it go if I were you.

Glask about your mum and possible swine flu! Glad to hear she's okay. Right now I'm more worried about baby catching it in hospital than anything else! At that point I'd be okay to take any kind of medication but baby probably not so much

Bump - great about Owen's weight, but about your mum! She must be devastated - both at having to have an operation and also at her dogs fighting. Would she be terribly offended if you asked her to put the dogs somewhere else (outside, in another room, etc) when you were visiting with the kids? I'm sure they're perfectly fine normally, but even the sweetest of dogs can be unpredictible and I really don't think it's a good idea to take any chances.

Impressed with all of your Christmas shopping - I would love to get started now, but the problem is we have zero storage! I wouldn't be able to hide gifts for DH at this point.

Ses - would be lovely to have a little singer on your hands! But don't become a stage mum!

Hi, I have written to the NCT class organiser to ask whether she could squeeze us on to another course but her autoreply says she works part-time and takes up to 7 working days to respond so no idea when we will hear. Fingers crossed she comes up with something.

We have always had huge xmas celebrations and my parents still go OTT on buying pressies for my DN and cousins so I imagine I won't be able to help myself doing the same . I love xmas shopping! DB and I both have birthdays in early January though so we don't really get anything for that - as kids we usually got a book and had a small party. We won't need to buy anything for the baby for xmas this year as she will only be 3 months old but I bet we can't help ourselves and we'll get a few bits. I'm already excited thinking about our first xmas as a family.

Glask - glad your mum doesn't have swine flu. There have been quite a few people in my parents village diagnosed with it and, although I know it's usually mild, I can't help worrying what would happen if I caught it while I'm pregnant or when I have a newborn (the second wae of cases is meant to hit in October when the kids go back to school).

hi

glas - glad all well with ur mum and ruby!!

wow about going into her 0-3 mnth clothes bless her bracken is in 6-9 mnths and 9-12 mnth clothes ones that dd1 wore there is loads of summer dresses and tshirts they look abit big but wont get worn when she is 9-12 mnths as will be winter then dont want them going to waist.
i am like you with spending i have already bought dd1 one of her xmas pressys as in sale in tesco like to be organised

Morning- had a mini scare this morning- mum was sent home with suspected swine flu (3 others at her work have confirmed cases) but she's got the all clear... i worried that ruby may have caught it from her.... but luckily all fine!!

Tink- as for xmas and birthday's we go way OTT!! i probably spend around £100 on birthdays and xmas is a nightmare... i always say i'll spend no more than £200 each, but last year ended up spending over £700 between them both!! My problem is that i start really early (already have a stash of xmas presents) and carry on right through the year.... i've owrked out that i have a 'budget' of around £1200 for this xmas but thats to include our xmas tree, xmas lunch and presents for me, DH and all 3 DC's..... something tells me i'll end up spending more as i've been buying bits out of my normal spends already- so the stash i have doesn't count in my 'budget'.... hopeless eh!!

Though, i always have a massive clear-out of all their toys in november as we have DS's birthday and xmas all within the same week... need to make enough room!!

Nice to hear both Owen's are making good progress.

Also DD2 is now going into her 0-3 clothing!! How exiting!! I have a friend who is expecting, but she doesn't know what she's having... she's asked if i'd sell her DD's newborn clothes.... but i dont actually want to part with them yet if that makes any sence- i mean she didn't get to wear anything more than once, and i bought her lots of bits from next and the designer shop too.... want to keep them forever as i love them!! I spent all pregnancy and while she was getting bigger building up that wardrobe and after a couple of weeks they aren't needed.... i'm upset because she's my last baby i think- i wanna keep everything for sentiment value!!

That is disappointing IDOB! I'd be really cross, especially after having looked forward to the clases for so long.As SES says, is there no possibility of squeezing in on another course?
SES, sounds like singing may be in the genes then Would love the dds and ds (still seems stange saying 'ds') to be musical, have always loved singing).
KAYZ, walk sound great - hope weather is good to you!
Hi TINKS! Rain forcast here too, until weekend .
Right, must get on, J will be awake soon. Have had to have a packet of custard creams for brekkie as no milk for cereal <sigh>

Hello Kay and IDOB too!

IDOB - I'd be really cross about the NCT course being cancelled. We did get ours put back a week as the lady taking the course had a bereavement but to have to completely cancel??! Can youphone and ask if you can squeeze onto another course somewhere else?

Morning tink! Weather is miserable isn't it! DH is not impressed a he has the week off work and was hoping to do lots of dog walking and gardening.

Morning all,

great news about Owen LB but sorry to hear about your mum. Do you know how long she will have to be in for?

Ses - LOL at your little pavorotti . Your GP sounds awful though, how to make people worry about nothing!

Diege - glad J had a good night after his difficult evening. Enjoy the mags - I'm a Star girl myself as I refuse to pay for Heat <tight scot smiley>.

I'm a bit irritated this morning. My NCT course has been cancelled at the last minute. We should have started this Saturday but the teacher is ill and they can't find cover so they have just cancelled the course and refunded the fees. I know they can't help it that the teacher is sick but I'm sure they could just slot a few extra people onto the other courses or offer some kind of alternative. I know lots of people don't do NCT classes but we were looking forward to it - especially DP strangely.

Morning,

Bump, Great news about Owen, Hope your Mum makes a speedy recovery. I agree that providing the dcs aren't left alone with the dogs then they will be fine.

We don't spend that much on the boys. Just get them a few bits and bobs. Maybe when they are older we might spend more but atm there is no point.

Got a list of about 10 cottages we like so now having to choose one. Tempted by one in/near Windermere so if I haven't passed my test there is the train station!

Hope everyone is well. We're going for a walk round the woods at the castle.

Morning Diege! Evenings seem to be worse for O too although much better than they were.

Interesting what you say about the raised palate and get you with the singing lessons!! Actually one of my claims to fame is that I've sung Verdi's Requiem from memory on stage at the Barbican in London with the Philarmonia orchestra (and about 60 other singers!)
Would love it if DS showed an interest in music...

Anyway, back to reality! DH has his Drs appointment today about his blood pressure. He asked for a morning appointment as he reckons he'll need a fasting blood test!!

O seemed to recover well from his jabs. I did wonder if he had a bit of a temperature in the middle of the night when he woke for his feed but he didn't seem bothered so I left the Calpol alone.

Hope everyone's had a good night and has a good day!

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 38 weeks, 2 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 32 weeks, 8 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 29 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 19 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 40 week appointment, 20 July
IDOB- 31 week apt 30th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July 3 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 8 weeks to go.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 25 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 8 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

great news about oqwen

intresting to hear what people spend for bdays and christmases

i never ask dd1 what she wants or i do but she always runs through a list of things.
this year getting her more for bday as we are up in hull for xmas with dhs parents cant take alot that is why i am getting her leapfrog tag system and leapster plus games as they are small and she will luv them

having a quiet day today in out of the rain

MOOSY, are you and the dds good singers then??

Oh meant to say SES that glad jabs went ok - how was your night? RE: 'raised palate', the only thing it rings bells for me on is that my singing teacher years ago used to say the best singers had them as it stopped the voice being 'nasally'. So you may well have a mini-Pavarotti there Your gp sounds a bit of a nightmare tbh...great bedside manner . Stop worrying about it anyway (if you are), it's perfectly normal (and enviable if you're a singer!)

Morning . That is good news about Owen LB - you must be feeling very pleased and relieved . So sorry about your mum ; hoping she makes a fast recovery. I bet you are sick of hospitals! As SES says, as long as dogs aren't left with DCs on their own, can't see a problem. My parents used to breed dogs when I was growing up (ok, pekinese )and there are lots of benefits to having them around children.Can see why safety is a key issues after what happened though.
All ok here. J had a bad evening again, but settled after bottle at 10.30pm and then slept through to 4. Think he's gradually cutting back on nightfeed too, so fingers crossed the gf routine will pay off and he'll sleep through from 10 weeks or so like dds 2&3 did when on it. He's only 4 weeks though, so not expecting miracles just yet!
Nothing really planned today, other then getting more milk and my Tuesday mags (Grazia and Heat ). Ah life in the fast lane eh . Hope everyone is ok x

Hello Bumps. That's great news about Owen - really good progress. How awful for your mum though. I can't remember the age/breed of dog. Will she be in hospital long? I guess you'll all naturally be a bit more wary and as long as the dogs aren't left alone with the DC I'm sure it shouldn't be a problem.

Moos - I've even committed the sin of googling raised palate but can't see anything relevant. I'm sure it's just my scare-mongering, overly thorough GP!

Evening all. Had hospital appointment today and DS now weighs 15lb 1oz he is just below the 25th centile but dr is happy with his progress and has signed him off. However he has asked me to wean him early... He wants me to go back on dairy first to check he has no reaction to that and then in two weeks time he want me to start giving solids. Then in two months time providing everything is ok I have to wean him off the meds (not before 7 months though)....

He also wants me to go back once a month for weigh in so dosage of meds can be altered!

All good there but not so good after. My mum was rushed to hospital last night and had an opperation today. Two of her dogs started fighting and she tried to seperate them and one of them bit her by mistake. We went to see her today and she looked really bad and for the first time in my life she looked really old....

DP has now said he doesn't want me to go around there with the ds's. I can see his point but i wont cut my mum out of my childrens lifes regardless of what he says.... sorry long post and a bit upset with it all at the moment...

But really pleased with owens report..... He still isn't feeding very much but when we told dr he said my milk will start to decrease now anyway and that as long as he isnt hungry then there is no problem.....

STT, I have a ridiculously high palate as does my dad (and I think the DDs too, can't really tell), I'm intrigued!

All fine at Drs. He cried on and off for about an hour afterwards but then fell asleep and is still asleep nearly an hour and a half later. Only issue is that he's asleep on me! Normally I would try and put him down but 95% of the time he wakes up so today I'm just letting him sleep on me.

8wk check all ok except GP still expressed concern over his weight. Can't quite work out why though and I told her his last weight measurement was nearly 2 weeks ago! She insisted on taking a photocopy of his chart.
She also said she had noted he had a raised upper palate in his mouth. I asked why that was significant and she said it could be a sign of genetic abnormality but that it would normally be accompanied by other signs that he doesn't have. She said it may be just a naturally raised palate!
GPs!!!

Kay - I did wonder if you'd need one inbetween those that my brother has. Hope you find something that's right. You've plenty of time so I'm sure you will.

Diege - hope your hairdresser and her family recover quickly

STT - hope you feel better soon. My godson has a room full of Thomas the Tank Engine stuff including a bed in the shape of a Thomas train!!

Moos - what a cute conversation you overheard!

LBOT - bet that was a scary moment! Bit of reality for your DH!

IDOB - Glad you enjoyed your wkend!

tink - shopping consultant to the stars wagon!

Hello Nat!

Sorky - sorry I missed that it was your birthday - Happy Birthday!!
Bumps - hope your appointment went well today

Hi guys - with you on the potty training front! How old are yours at the moment? DS is 2.7 and is nearly there. Nursery have been key I think, because other older kids are training at the same time.

Had a small celebration today when we were at a friends house this morning and he announced he wanted the loo - fortunately (and for a change) I'd actually remembered to take the loo seat thingy and he did a poo on the loo instead of his pants! Hurrah! Touch wood - there's been no accidents today!

He rarely has a wee accident these days <<blatantly ignores yesterday as a one-off relapse>> but the poos are taking a bit more concentration!

He's got a potty in front of the tv which I think is very helpful! <<Anyone else read the article about benign neglect parenting? >>

He wears pull ups for naptime (also known (by me) as 'wrestle time' - I'm so not ready for him to stop, and neither is he, but he thinks he is - hence the physical wrestle until he concedes !!!). He still wears them at bedtime too and if we're doing a long car journey. Although, he rarely has wet pull ups for naps or driving. He's also quite good at spotting up coming service stations it seems, as he's been announcing he wants a wee about a mile before each service station and has been able to hold on each time! <<Very relieved mummy emoticon>>

Goodness, sorry about the mega potty post!

In celebration of all the above, I've started collecting a some packs of newborn nappies on the weekly shop too. Spreading the cost and all that.

Have not been feeling great the past 24 hours or so, got a bit of a dicky tummy and every now and again, get really painful cramps and have to rush off to the loo .

Am feeling a little guilty at the amount I don't spend on DS at birthday's / Christmas! He gets so much stuff from all his rellies though, I'd need a barn to store it all in if I mucked in too! He didn't get anything from us for his first christmas and only a couple of items for his birthdays. The house is bursting with his toys though!

He seems to have developed the skill of seeing things he wants and telling me we're going shopping for them! He's 2.5 FGS!

Oh well.

On the room decorating front, I wasn't planning on doing wall papering etc, just accessorising with bedding, a couple of pictures, waste paper bin, that sort of thing so that when if his allegiance changes, it won't be a disaster.

He (and George pig) quite like dinosaurs too, so I did wonder about some dinosaur stuff.

He's pressed up against me in an attempt to stop me typing cuddling me at the moment and i've just had to ask him to stop playing with my boob - what's that all about? He seems to have a new fascination and I haven't told him about breastfeeding yet. He's becoming increasingly adamant that I'm having a baby girl - beginning to wonder if perhaps we should try and find out the sex at the next scan (37 weeks) so that we can prepare him if it is a boy.

Sorry - can you tell I've been on my own most of the day with only DS for company? I guess you're probably all off doing tea now - and I ought to get on with that too!

x

Oh and I'm 19 weeks now (so WHY was I sick yesterday? )

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 38 weeks, 2 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 32 weeks, 8 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 29 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 19 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 40 week appointment, 20 July
IDOB- 31 week apt 30th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July 3 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 8 weeks to go.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 8 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

She hasn't had a regular daytime sleep since she was 16 months, she'll fall asleep in the car sometimes but that's all really.

Another wee on the floor, knickers #7 on now!

DD1 is not impressed as her toy elephant (nice jellycat one) took a hit and is now in the washing machine

Just realised that my link didn't work. This is the cottage that we love.

Moosy is dd2 having a nap in the afternoon? ds2 isn't well atm and is having a long nap so I'm reluctant to trust him not to wet the bed. He's using the toilet when he has clothes on now, just shouts to tell me he's doing a wee
Not much luck on the poo front yet tho'

Actually I'd better go n get him up

Our budget for birthdays/Christmas normally starts out as £50 each, but goes up and down a bit depending on what they want. I think Christmas this year will be a bit Scroogy as we won't have 2 beans left by then!

Just overheard a snippet of conversation:
DD2: But we haven't got a baby.
DD1: But we will have soon, Mummy's got one in her tummy.
DD2: Ooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

DD2 has been very good with her potty for the last 4 days, wearing trousers and going out etc, but so far today she's on her 6th pair of knickers she has 2 back teeth cutting so I wonder if that's making her a bit wonky, but she seems ok. Must persevere!

Afternoon! Hope dr's goes well SES! KAYZ, whatever you do, make sure you don't get a cottage with an extra bed, just incase you-know-who decides to tag along Great that bloods came back fine, and good luck with the driving
LBOX, take it easy! It does sound like things are progressing well though, and that your LO may well be here by his due date
Hi IDOB, you take it easy too! When do you finish work?
HI NAT! Think I must be a skinflint when it comes to presents - birthdays usually no more than £50 each budget, though dd1 is askinbg for a bike and 'puppet in a box' this year, so may well blow that. It's end of July, and we've also booked her party at 'Ice bloc' (synthetic ice rink). I always mean to start getting bits for Xmas now, so may well look at for some sale bargains. Can't do any harm to look
Finally got in touch with SOM to find out what consultant appointment was about. I'm booked it to go over notes again with consultant, and also anasthetist (sp!!) as something odd happended when they administered the general that I've been too stressed about to even mention here, but have been having nightmares/flashbacks and I need to find out what went wrong (let's just say it didn't 'take' straight away). Hopefully will find out what went wrong, so I can finally move on without being afraid to fall asleep at night.
Have also had a call from hairdresser to say that her sister and family have swine flu' . She seems ok, but has suggested rescheduling this week's appointment - fair enough, but still gutted I'll have another week to endure my roots . Still, a sensible precautions I think <stamps foot>
Right, better start on tea - really odd having all this domestic responsibility - sure the novelty will wear off soon

We don't have a budget really Tink for birthdays/xmas. I agree with Nat it seems to depend on what we decide to get them.
As a general rule probably no more than £50-£100 for birthdays, but Christmas is a different ball game tbh.
Dh insists the pile of presents must be huge and have the WOW factor
Last year hit a ridiculous sum and this year is likely to be worse as the eldest 2 are getting laptops each.

Dd2 will not have much of a pile this year I don't think, it doesn't make much sense as she'll only be 10mo then.

Ds2 is getting one of those wooden bikes with no pedals.

Family buy for them too. This year thankfully my mother has agreed to give them money.
If we don't get planning for the extension we'll have to rethink, as we simply cannot keep storing all these toys. We have a clear-out each Oct/Nov time to prepare for the new stuff, but we're still overflowing. No wonder i'm obsessed with storage

Oh and thanks for all the birthday wishes, I did have a lovely day

Ses, they are lovely but too big and too small for us. We love www.lakelovers.co.uk/cs/properties/692this but it is too big for us.

hi

kay - glad results back normal and you have been feeling ok lake d sounds good

Hhi! Just off to Dr but you've all been chatting away and I've not time to catch up!

Kay - seen you've decided on Lakes. My brother owns 2 cottages in Keswick which he rents out for holiday lets. Just in case you're interested (or anyone else!) the link is lakerdistrict.com/
No obligation and it's probably not the cheapest but they are well maintained and in a good position.

Right, I'll catch up properly later...

Oh and my blood test results are normal. But I've felt ok this past 2 weeks. So hopefully I'm ok now.

Hi,

Just a quick post as DH is home today.

I think we are settled on the Lake District. Just need to pick somewhere. I've seen a gorgeous cottage but it sleeps 8 so too big for us 4.

Going driving tonight which I'm looking forward to. Going to book some lessons with an instructor too so I can have at least 2 hours a week learning.

Hope you are all well.

I haven't heard from her but I'll update her weeks stat as I don't want to overtake anyone.

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 38 weeks, 2 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 32 weeks, 8 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 29 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 17 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 40 week appointment, 20 July
IDOB- 31 week apt 30th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July 3 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 8 weeks to go.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 8 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

BTW, has anyone heard from Kookykid? Hoping she's okay!

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 38 weeks, 2 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 28 weeks, 12 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 28 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 17 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 40 week appointment, 20 July
IDOB- 28 week apt 9th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July 3 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 9 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 8 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

Thanks, Nat - I have a feeling this baby is not going to go too far overdue, which would be great!

Hi IDOB! You definitely need to SLOW DOWN! But, for what it's worth, I've found that I have been gradually and naturally slowing down over the past few months. To the point now where a shopping trip wipes me out and I need to relax for the rest of the day. I hate it, but really I get to the point where I just can't do anymore. Funny how your body works..! As for a gift for your neice, I love getting "special" things for first birthdays - I got my nephew the Beatrix Potter boxed set for his. Something that needs to be taken care of and cherished IYSWIM. Our neice turns one in October and I'm thinking of getting her a silver brush and mirror set (Now that she has some hair, LOL!). But I've also seen this: Fisher Price Say Please Tea Set which I think is just adorable!

Thanks tink - the 'my first shop' looks good and I also found a 'my first cooking set' on the same site so maybe I'll go for one of those.

it depends how much you want to spend but how about these as idea -

www.elc.co.uk/toy/my-first-shop/

www.elc.co.uk/toy/whizz-around-garage/

www.elc.co.uk/toy/fairytale-castle/

www.elc.co.uk/toy/brilliant-start-activity-table/

www.elc.co.uk/toy/fairyland-bluebell-boot/

dd1 still plays with fairy boot it is gorgeous

Morning Nat and Tink,

while we are talking birthdays I need some advice. It is my DNs first birthday in August and I am looking at what to get her - any ideas welcome. They live in a small flat so I don't want to get anything too big. On Saturday we spent quite a bit of time playing with her stacking/counting cup things and a spoon - playing drums then she was pretending to feed me some dinner with the spoon - so I was thinking about looking for a little tea set or kitchen set. What do you think?

Nat - glad you have your phone and internet back. I will try to rest more!

Ses - good luck for first injections!

Tink - rosebud stuff sounds great, I'm sure she will love it.

LBOT - that sounds a bit scary. I'm so impatient to finally have our baby here but I'm sure when it gets to the last couple of weeks and feels more real I'll change my mind and be quite happy to wait !

STT - no advice I'm afraid. I only found out who Peppa Pig is this weekend as it is DNs favourite little book just now. I do remember my auntie spending ages decorating a tweenie-themed room for my cousin who loved it for about a fortnight then wanted to change to Bratz so I see Tinks point - maybe make it quite generic and just add a few George Pig bits you can update later?

i usually spend £100 each on bdays and christmases will be doing for both girls

.... FWIW, this xmas should be fairly inexpensive, most of their toys/books/games etc. are in storage, and will be up until about November time, they're not going to need huge piles of new toys because it's going to be like xmas day when we un-pack all of it (Am actually really looking forward to un-packing it, can't wait to see their faces )

Morning Tink

We try to stick to a budget of £150-£200 for birthdays, but it depends really on what it is they want, like the year DS1 got his PC and his Wii, that was exceptionally expensive, but we looked at it as being that kids need PC skills now, and the earlier the better (DS2 knows how to work the mouse to play a really simple game already!) and the Wii, although it is DS1's, everyone plays with it, it was more of a family pressie alongside his PC. The year before that he'd been banging on about a digital camera, we thought he was too young so we got him a cheapy one that wouldn't matter so much if he broke it, that was a cheap birthday, but then he realised his camera wasn't very good and wanted a proper one, we made him wait a couple of years, till his last birthday in March and got him a decent one, which he looks after, he knows how to set it up to his digital photo frame, how to put the pics on the pc, print them out, etc. etc. so in my mind, he is learning the skills that I don't even have now, so worth the extra expense.

Though must admit, it took me many birthday's and christmas' to give in and not buy £500+ worth of stuff just because it was his bday/xmas Whether he'd actually asked for/wanted/needed any of it didn't matter to me, just needed to spend There was absolutely no silent competition with my nasty sister whatsoever, oh noooooooo, no no no no no.......

Sorry STT, was getting mixed up with ITNG boy's stuff I think. This site has a really good range of different designs if that's any help? (I got a lot of DS3's nursery stuff from there, no problems with delivery or anything).

morning

sounds like everyone had good weekends

i swapped elc order of sylvanian families for rosebud stable,horses and living room. also getting camper van and pets. my firends daughter has sylvanian families said that bits are very small smaller than ants will wait till she is older!!
she loves her rosebud house her favourite toy.
will prob get her kitchen utensils, calculator and measuring tape 2

how much do others get for bdays?

re room decorating dont theme to much or if you do make sure it will last along time. dd1s room is butterflies - she has green walls,pink and green shelves, pink butterfly lamp, 2 butterfly pics,her duvet covers are white one has ballet dancers on other has coloured spots,has pink and green flower lamp and green flower rugplus green side table
dd2s room has pink walls,pink heart rug,rainbow pics,white bedside table

Sorry x posted LBOT and IDOB...

LBOT, the period cramps type feelings are all good signs, the feeling like needing to go to the toilet, but then actually going, is the pressure the baby is creating, it's all good, shows he is getting lower in preparation Very exciting

IDOB, Glad you enjoyed your weekend You really should try to rest more though, that list would knock me out, and I'm not heavily pregnant!! Any chance of catching up on sleep during the day? You'll end up being absolutely worn out.

Good morning

T'is a good day I think, BT have been and fixed the land line, the sun is shining (though don't think it's here to stay, clouds bubbling up all over the place) and I slept really well last night, have found for the last week or two, although I've not been properly awake, I've not been properly asleep either, waking up feeling like I've not had any sleep etc. Last week of school here as well, am really looking forward to the hols, love having him home for the first week-- No, I do love having him here

OK the catch up.... <deep breath>

Glask, I am sure you do remember all the bad bit's of pregnancy, and if you can face it again (which is very brave!) and if you think you can cope 3 children, and be pregnant again, then go for it. It takes a special kind of person to go through all of that for someone else, I know I couldn't do it again, not even for us. Am sure you'll make the right decision for you and your family

Diege, good news about the house

Ses hope DS's injections go OK, and you have every right to be feeling anxious about them PFB or no PFB! We actually went a step further with the BF, I fed him while they did it, was a bit worried that he'd either bite down on me, or choke on the milk when he cried, but he didn't do either, he sort of took a sharp breath and then carried on feeding!

STT, I am nearly sure I remember seeing a whole load of George Pig stuff somewhere, I will have a look and see if I can find it.

Kayz, are you having any more luck with the theory training? Did you manage to go for a drive with your mum?

LB, is it today DS's appointment? Good luck if so, will keep fingers crossed for something good to come of it.

Ah wind is picking up here, knew the sun would be long gone, we've got some pretty stormy weather on the way by all accounts, just hope the lightning doesn't get us again, DH managed to fix the surround sound, used a different cable or some such, and BT have just fixed the phone line, they say it comes in threes..... but then they say lightning never strikes twice

Morning all, hope you all had a nice weekend.

had a lovely weekend at my parents. DB and SIL were also there with my DN which was lovely - she has changed so much since last time I saw her ! She is 10 months now and crawling about all over the place. She is quite good on her feet too, cruising round the living room and pushing her walker so I think she might be walking quite soon. DB is half excited and half worried how much trouble she can get into now she is mobile . It was great for DP too, he is still a bit nervous that he hasn't been around kids much and doesn't know what to do but DN loves him and he played with her for a while on Saturday so he is feeling a bit more confident .

I'm just so tired now though! I've been a bit shocked how much more tired I've been getting for the last couple of weeks. I mentioned it to the midwife and she has taken bloods to check for anaemia but after asking what I'd been doing all week she laughed and said I just need to slow down now I've hit the third trimester. I'm just not good at that but am going to make a real effort to be in bed before 11pm this week and relax a bit more in the evenings although I'm meeting my dad for dinner on Tuesday, going out for a meal with my yoga class on Wednesday, Thursday I'm working late (unavoidable), Friday and Saturday we have friends coming to stay and Sunday I have my first NCT class then a work BBQ in the evening. Oh well.........

Hello everyone!

Hi Sorky Hope you had a lovely holiday, good to see you back!

STT - Understand what you mean about the pink stuff - one of my godsons loves Dora, but everything is geared towards girls! The Jojo catalog has some lovely things in it - more like sailboats in primary colors and stuff like that, instead of characters, but really sweet.

Ses - hope all goes well with Owen's shots today poor little guy.

Diege - house stuff sounds exciting! Best of luck!

Glask - If you freally feel strongly about surrogacy and have found a couple that you gel with, then go for it. But like others have said, I'd be apprehensive being pregnant again with 3 LOs of my own.

Kay - I'm afraid I'm still crap about my UK geography so have no advice about where to go, but all sound lovely.

So we were in Tesco on Saturday morning and had a bit of a scare. While we were waiting for the bus, I started to feel really 'off' - had what felt like menstrual cramps in my lower abdomen, my thighs and back. Told DH I thought I needed to go to the bathroom, so ran back home. No action in the bathroom (sorry if TMI! ) but DH was still at bus stop after I'd finished, so I went back to wait with him. Still felt rubbish and slightly faint, but then the bus came and once I sat down I was fine. This happened twice more while in Tesco. While we were checking out I said to DH you know, I'm not entirely sure these aren't some form of early early contractions because they seemed to come in waves/intervals. He freaked out just a little bit But then when we got home, I relaxed a bit and felt fine. So I guess it was nothing, but it was funny to see his reaction - I don't think he's quite ready yet!

Morning Good luck at GPs SES! Sure all will be fine - it's the thought of going that's usually far worse than the experience. Agree with STT, bf straight after will certainly help
STT, could you pick up the 'deigo' theme re: Dora (assuming they actually make deigo-themed things)? Think George pig sounds very cute for a duvet though, though can see your dilemma re: pink-ness of general accesories. We need to get TINKS on the case
Well we've had an increased offer on our house, so hopefully will be able to negotiate something that suits, and start putting offers in on the one we've seen. Dh getting majorly stressed about the whole thing, which isn't great when we've not even started the process properly yet , so having to sit back and resist picking up the phone and taking over...
Right, bottles to wash! Ds woke again at 2pm, but just snuffly/windy, so settled back until 4ish - not that I could get back to sleep between 2 and 4 - very frustrating!
Hope everyone is well on this dull and cold Monday!

Quite a good night with DS waking up for a "lying down" feed at about 1.30am and then a decent "sit up" feed at 4am before then waking at 6.30am. Managed to get some proper sound sleep inbetween the feeds.

STT - DH is actually off work this week anyway so will be coming with us this afternoon. I'm hoping he'll finally make himself a GP appointment too as his blood pressure according to our machine is still v high at 145/108 at the best reading.

Ses, only tip I've got on immunisations is take DH if you can (then he can be the bad man that pins him ) and if you can hold back a bit of a breastfeed, as soon as he's had the jabs, whip him onto your lap and stick him on the boob whilst the nurse fills in paperwork. If you tell her you want to do this when you go in, she should give you a couple of minutes. BF'ing is supposed to provide pain relief for LO's, so its kind of doubly soothing.

Although, having said this, DS hardly reacted at all to actually having the jabs - he was just a mardy bugger for the next few days . Every time I'd got him into a routine, it would be time for another round of jabs and the routine would go completely topsy turvy and we'd start building up a whole new one! All good fun

It might also be worth giving him a small dose of calpol before the jabs to give it time to kick in - I didn't for the first but did for the subsequent and would say that it was quite a lot easier for doing that.

I'm sure it will be fine, and don't worry about being 'PFB'ish' about it - we spend all of our days (at the beginning) trying to keep them warm, clean, comfortable - and then we take them to the docs and stab them with a needle - it kind of goes against the grain!

Kay, Agree with everyone else - all hol destinations are beautiful. Might be worth doing some research around days out in each area suitable for the boys?

Glask - Think you're very brave for even considering surrogacy again after last time, I think I'd be nervous about being let down again.

Diege, very sad about your friends little boy .

We've been really busy (again) working on DS' new bedroom. Its taken some time, but we've finally got it replumbed (putting the central heating pipes under the floorboards) and got the hot water working again after a whole week without! Thank goodness for dishwashers and electric showers!

I'm looking online for inspiration on how to accessorize the room. I'm going to paint the walls in basic colours, but use things like bedding, lampshades etc to add character. Only thing is, DS loves Dora and Peppa and their stuff is all geared around girls and is predominantly pink! Although I have found a nice George Pig duvet cover that might work. If anyone's got any ideas / suggestions on how to get round it...?

Hi! Fairly quiet day here except for DS having really bad wind this afternoon. Sometimes it's a real struggle to get it up. He eventually settled after tummy time, back patting/rubbing, me walking around and jiggling him, pushing his legs up to his tummy and a few good burps and farts!

Diege - that's really sad about that boy with MS. I have a friend wheelchair bound with it and it's not a nice disease, although he does try and make the best of things.
Oh, and boy wees - don't you just love 'em!

tink - hope the pizza making went well.

Kay - Both Somerset and the Lakes are beautiful. My brother lives in Keswick and it's great for a trip away. We also went to Somerset for our first wedding anniversary and loved it.

Bumps - hope you had a good time today and that DS's appointment goes well tomorrow.

We have DS's 8 week check and first lot of immunisations tomorrow afternoon. I'm trying not to be all "PFBy" but I am a little apprehensive.

Diege, that is my biggest fear. I am dreading her saying that, I'd have to make DH put his foot down and say that we just want a family holiday. But then again I really want to go to Longleat. It looks great and I'd like to go back to Taunton.

Do you think Ginger biscuits are ok for 7mo? just popped to the toilet and came down to find that DS1 had given DS2 his biscuit.

That does sound fun MOOSY! I've only been down your way (Warminster?) once and then on to Stonehenge, and really loved the countryside etc.
KAYZ, is there a danger MIL might 'volunteer' to come with you to see this friend if you headed to the Lakes?? If so, def Somerset . Only downside I suppose would be the travel, but once you're there would be brill
GLASK, I think you sound pretty much convinced re: the surragacy! If the sickness is controllable, and you feel strong enough to go for it, then do! It's such a wonderful gift to give to a childless couple.
Just found out that the little boy's party that dd3 went to yesterday has a severe form of MS, and won't live beyond 14 . Sort of puts everything into perspective really and makes my worries seem really petty. Felt really sad for the grandparents who were telling dh all about it
On a happier note ds has kept his last feed down and has settled well upstairs for sleep. I think the reason he hasn;t been settling at 7pm is that he's having too much sleep in the afternoon, but having said that is impossible to keep awake after the 2pm feed!

Somerset's nice (biased, me?), and if yo ucome in July there's loads of beer fests and family style days out going on, the Lowland Games is one and was very good last year.

Just been for a walk to the only place I ever seem to go, the train station!! On the way home I got some brochures for the lakes, Dorset and somerset so I am going to make DH look at them. He is being a real pain and just keeps saying "I don't mind" which is no good to me. I am tempted by the lakes too but MIL has a family friend there so DH has been loads and loads. I'm worried about him being really bored.

Re- surrogacy.... the friends that i was very close to offering help to after ending things with the couple i'd actually offered to help (hope thats read-able) still haven't found a surrogate... and i'd love to offer to help them... the sickness is a little bit of a worry, BUT, i'd have my friends to help out with my DC's should i be too ill, and the GP would be able to prescribe me cyclazine if i needed it... so i can kinda see a way round the risk of sickness... i mean if i forgot just how bad it was already it can't have been that bad could it?? We're meeting up with them in a couple of weeks for a day out... it'd be nice to have decided if i 'could' put myself through it all again....

Diege- sorry J is getting upset at nights... I yhave only just started putting DD2 to bed in her cot alone at nights and she's nearing 5mths old... but DD1 was going to bed at 7pm every night from 2wks old... each baby is different i suppose, couldn't have done it earlier this time round even if i'd wanted to- she used to cluster feed till my bedtime!!

Hi TINKS! Yes, he's fine, just a guzzler having had closely spaced feeds. Reflux is there, but not bothering him at present, so not concerned. Pizzas sound great - we always have bases in to do - not brave enough to make those myself! How is dd1 at the moment? Would you like to swop for dd3?

morning

oh no diege hope he is ok!!

we are going to make pizzas with dd1 to encourage her to try new things

Morning! Aww KAYZ you must be shattered On a better note your hols choices sound good - think I'd plump for the Lakes myself, but then weather down south may be better?
SES, sounds a brilliant day (love the new name too). And such good timing with the exploding poo
Hi SORKY!! How was the holiday with 4 of them?? Any advice?? We've got 2 weeks in Whitby to endure look forward to, so any tips gratefully received!
LB, dd3 has also 'gone off' me, so know how you feel...dh is def fave, although I have to admit I'm quite happy about it at the moment . Enjoy your day today
Odd night/morning with J. He's been getting into the habit of waking after an hour of being put upstairs in basket at 7pm, and being pretty inconsolable, so have ended up getting him down after an hour or so of consoling/cuddles etc etc. So he's down with us last night from 9ish till 11, just lying still gazing at TV (slumdog millionnaire ) (feed at 10.00), wakes at 2ish grizzling but ignore so he goes back to sleep, then wakes at 5.40 . So feeling vaguely human this morning. Also experienced the joy of boy wees today, with him weeing all over the bed, several times. Had to change the sheets, got him into his day clothes, came back in room to be greeted by exploding poo seeping through his cashmere playsuit (present obviously ). Change him again, go and get fresh bedding for moses basket, come back just in time to witness projectile vomit all over our new bedding... He's in bed now, but was starting that poo grunting again when I left him .
Right, better dash as dd3 starting again...
That reminds me SORKY, life with 4 for the first few weeks has been VERY tough, but we are slowly getting there. The school hols will be the real test though!

Morning,

DS2 got us up at half 4 this morning. I'm thinking he might not be getting enough food but he has loads.

Almost booked holiday. Just got to choose somewhere to go. Still deciding between Hampshire, Somerset area or the lakes.

Sorky hope you had a good holiday.

Hope everyone is ok.

evening all hope you are all well...

Been out all day. Went on river boat then to a farm then back on boat and got bus home.. DD loved it but only wanted to be with her daddy so me and owen chilled by ourselves. He has had a good day as well. Fed a lot more (although not as much as he should ) and slept for about 2 hours while we were out so all good... Except for dd being very hostile to me at the moment. It is very upsetting but I am trying to act as if it is ok because she doesn't see dp very much... Please tell me this will not last!!! She even asked if I could stay at home today (little monkey)

DP's dads bday tomorrow so out all day and then it is our hospital appointment monday so fingers crossed he will sign us off......

tink grins like a cheshire cat at thought of doing more shopping and @ her great shopping skills.

ses - great name and your day sounds good 2

getting rest of xmas pressies oct and nov

Hello!!

I have my new name!!
<Ses does a twirl!>
Someone on the May09 thread suggested exactly the same as you did STT so I decided to go for it!

Sorky - good to have you back! Hope you had good hols.
I agree about going back to work - I really don't want to but know I should and we'll need me to for the mortgage. Guess I'm lucky that I won't be going back until Jan.

tink - Kay is right. I'd love to hire you to do my Christmas shopping for me!

Glask - tbh, I'm suprised you're considering surrogacy again as I thought you were quite adamant about not going there again and not being pg again. However, I know things change and if taking everything into account, you are 100%, then go for it! It is a v generous thing to do.

We are having a very good day here
I managed to get into Crawley to go shopping and DS fell asleep just before we arrived and stayed asleep until 5 minutes before we got home! I managed to stock up on some essentials in Boots and take advantage of the 3for2 on No7 and buy O a couple of outfits, buy a set of white wicker baskets to use in O's room in Cargo, some jeans in Debenhams and have lunch at Costa!! O was such a good little boy!

He saved his exploding poo for when we got home this time so had to give him a bath and change his clothes then but once I'd done that he lay happily kicking away on my bed whilst I unpacked the shopping!!

On top of all that, one nice lady whilst shopping commented that she thought he looked big for 9 weeks. I didn't like to tell her that the last time he was weighed, he was between the 2nd & 9th centiles
That was 10 days ago though so she's given me hope that maybe he's climbing up to be nearer the 9th than the 2nd He's weighed next on Thursday...

Anyway, must get back to making the most of this good day!

Hello Ladies <waves>

How's everyone doing? I've been away on hols so haven't even attempted a catchup, though LB did a really good round-up for me.

Tink I'm shopping for xmas too Don't have too much more to get

Diege how are you managing with 4?

3 people have announced this week they are pg and I'm very happy for them, but not in the least bit broody, I'm very pleased to say.

Kayz perhaps you need to think about whether you'll be heavily pg next July before booking the holiday, should you go ahead with ttc.
I have to go back to work in a months' time too. I don't particularly want to go atm, but I know it's the best thing for me to do. I'll regret it if I leave and it's only one day a week so hardly like going f-time I suppose.

Moosy I still haven't got time to post the blimmin' t-shirt, Monday, promise.

Tink, I think I might give you a list of Xmas presents and the money and let you do mine. You are just so organised!!

hi

glas - what a lovely thing to do

diege - have already sorted xmas have got her leapfrog tag system also getting 3 books and leapster plus games for xmas as we rae up in hull @ xmas with dhs parents dont want to take lots of things up.
i ued to get her alot more than that

Quick hi from me too! Hectic here, dds crazy We have avillage festival this weekend, so am taking older dds and J to arts and crafts market, and dh is taking dd3 to a party.
STAR, enjoy your night - used to keep EBM out at room temp for at least a few hours with dd1 - was told at the time that it doesn't break down like ff, hence will last up to 5 days in fridge (compared to 24 hrs for ff).
GLASK, agree with GYO, as long as you can handle the sickness etc then go for it! Have you got a couple in mind?
Hi KAYZ, hope you get some rest today after last night
TINKS, wow sounds like dd1 has got a good stash of stuff for her birthday. TBH I'd be tempted to keep a few bits back for xmas, but then we have been trying to slim down their present list to keep costs down with 4!
GYO, does having the anniversary of your bfp make you wistful for another??
Hope everyone is well - back later!

Morning

Quick hi

I had my BFP a year ago today!!!! a year has gone so fast

Glask- being a surrogate is a great thing to do... but could you take being that sick (morning sicknees) again with 3 kids to look after? Otherwise, its a lovely thing to do

Star, think Ses is right re EBM. Enjoy your hen night.

Got to run and tidy whilst DD is napping.

Then I'd say if you were 100% about it then go for it.

Kayz- when i spoke to my GP (all the way back at my 6wk PN check) he said ruby being prem was just something that had happened, it could happen again, it may not. as there was no known reason for her being early he expects everything would be fine...

Glask, It depends on what the chances of having another prem baby are. If Ruby was a one off and that your chances of having another prem are slim then go for it. But if your chances are increased then I don't know if I would want to risk it.

Morning-

Kayz- sorry you were up so early!!

Me and DD1 are having a PJ day in front of the tv.... she's watching tinkerbell movie, we watched aristocats before that!! Think we're having a day out tomorrow with my sister instead.

I'm considering being a surrogate again.... any views anyone?

morning

enjoy sst sounds good

have just ordered dd1s last bits for her 4th bday

already bought her mamas and papas tulip pink dolls pram and my 1st annabell got in march
on elc bought :-

rosebud camper van and pet set to go with her dolls house

sylvanian families :-

honeybear family
seaside set
bbq set
toy shop

got a 20% off code so saved £20

off into town soon to get bits for holiday go on the 20th to centreparcs

kay - sorry you were up early!!

Morning,

Been up since 3 thanks to DS2. DH bought him downstairs at 4 and I managed to get a bit of sleep.

Hope everyone else is well.

Hello!!

Star - I've always used frozen EBM either from fridge having defrosted over night or immediately after defrosting by placing in a bowl of tepid water. I often use EBM that has been stored at room temperature for up to 6 hours though and I'm sure defrosted EBM if taken from the fridge, would be fine for a few hours. Hope that helps...

Glask - v impressed with your Next shop. I have a £20 giftcard for Next that I haven't spent yet as we don't have a next in Redhill or Reigate. Will have to head to Crawley or Sutton and spend it!!

LBOT - STT is right about the heart rate so don't worry

tink - sorry don't really know about Sylvanian families. Great rolling from Bracken!

Moos - do you know how long you may have to wait for consultant appointment? I know what you mean about being able to look at the situation in different ways but at the end of the day, it's good that they're keeping an eye on it.

Have posted on the May09 thread about my name too. Thank you for your suggestions Diege and STT. I quite like both of those and see how you've got them
Will have a think.... (any other suggestions still welcome too!)

Ooh, Glask - shopping sounds great.
Sparkly - glad mw went okay
Diege - I suppose soo much after care is better than none at all?
Kayz - sounds like a lovely planned shopping trip.

Okay - am off out on my best friend's hen do tomorrow, still very nervous and know I won't enjoy it 100% because of it, but will still be nice. Have posted the following Q about using expressed milk in bf topic, but wondered if any of you ladies know?

So, think we're all there with being prepared (except my nerves!):

Expressed milk in fridge to defrost overnight (check)
DD will take bottles (Check - although, hope she hasn't gone off them in last week, as don't have enough supply to spare some to check her again!)
Bottles in sterilising (Check)
MIL arriving mid-morning (Check)

BUT - DH wants to go out to town to give DS a run around tomorrow and go to Nandos, so they don't have to cook - can he take a bottle of expressed milk with him for DD? Leaflet with my expresser says not to store it at room temperature ever. Anyone done this?

You may well all have gone off for evening/weekend, but worth a shot

OOooh shopping Glask!! Sounds brilliant!! I'm going to Meadowhall next Thursday with my best friend. I can not wait!! It is our wedding anniversary next Wednesday so DH said I could just treat myself to something nice!

sparkly - glad mw went ok

glas - is good to be all shopped out
sounds like you did very well
tom plans sound great too

Have been shopping all day... sall shopped out now... i went to my local next outlet and got a huge bag of things (mainly for DD1) and it only cost me £30!! i got tons of bits for £1 and £2 each... jeans, leggings, tops, dresses- nothing cost me more than £2!! very pleased with them!! got her lots in the next size too so she has stuff to 'grow into'.

Managed to finish my jojo order last night... got the wooden letter to spell all Dc's names, and also got them to spell my nephews name too!! also got them all a peg with their initial to hang their towels on in the bathroom, did want the baby play gym for DD2, but its not on the website.

Have got rid of DS for the weekend- he's going to scotland with my parents, sister and nephew till sunday evening. They are taking him for a chinese tomorrow aswell- so i think i'll treat DD1 to a day out with me... we're going to do nail polish and a bit of eyeshadow in the morning and maybe the sealife centre in the afternoon.

Right DD is asking for her tea so i better dash and sort her before she falls asleep.

I have caught up since yesterday i promise.... BUT it has all just gone over my head since writing the rest!!

Hi LBOT, just a quick post, think you'll find that heart rate is about standard for your stage of pregnancy. It picks up a bit during labour (not surprising) and settles again after birth - but don't quote me on that...

Not long to go for you at all now! Good that baby is the right way around and showing signs of engagement...I hope the birth is as 'non eventful' as the pregnancy has been for you!

Hi everyone:

Only have a minute, but just wanted to pop in with a quick hello.

DH seems back to normal now which means whole argument will be swept under the rug - until of course it crops up again! I just don't have the energy to rehash it so that it's actually been resolved at this point. Hate to go into parenthood having not resolved issues, but I guess that's just how it goes...

Anyway, Hi to Glask! Glad to see you back!

Saw Dr yesterday and all is well - this is the most uneventful pregnancy ever! (thankfully, actually!) Baby's head is 1/5 engaged, bump measures spot on and heartbeat is 128bpm. Does that sound low to anyone?

Will do a better job of catching up later on! Xx

New thread ladies... lets hope its a good un!!

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......

Weeks list:
Diege - 38 weeks, 2 left to go. Boy!!!!(21st June)
LBOT - 33 weeks, 7 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 26 weeks, 14 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 24 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 19 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 14 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)
Claire236 - 5 weeks (EDD 7 Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (3 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
STT - 20 week scan 21st May
BB - 20 week scan 11th june 09 (not finding out sex)
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July

MW apps list:
IDOB- 24 week apt 9th June
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 36 week appointment, 25 June
Diege - 38 week appointment, 11th June.

Mat leave countdown:
Diege - Annual leave, proper mat leave starting 15th June.
LBOT - last day 17 July (I think!) 26 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 13 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 24 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 3 weeks

sylvanian bits i want to get:-

www.elc.co.uk/toy/sylvanian-toy-shop/

www.elc.co.uk/toy/day-at-seaside/

www.elc.co.uk/toy/garden-barbecue-set/

bracken can roll from back to front now and keeps getting stuck on her front in cot when she is meeting to be having lunch time nap!!

hi

i had sylvanian families when i was age 10 they are so cite cant wait to buy them for dd1

good luck with results - kay

and good lukc moosy

i got dd1s books have been reading them

Saw GP this morning about my low iron, he's arranging a consultant appointment and thinks they might want to do a tranfusion. Part of me says 'eek no!', the other part says 'yes please, more blood and better quality!' Of course my mum (daily mail reader! ) says 'oooh no, you don't want to catch hepititis!'

Just trying to get Dylan to eat something with lumps in. Not going down too well really.

Wow what a bargain TINKS I love sylvanian families - remember my little sister having them and even at late teens thought they were cute. Didn't realise they were still going!
SES, hmm, will have a think about your name...odd that SES is gone already, maybe something like JUSTSES???
Have to say had forgotten how tough it was getting things done with a newborn and a toddler...Just as I dare try to clear the breakfast things someone either wees on the floor or is sick . Am taking the easy option for tea when they'll all be here and getting pizza! For now the thought of fitting in a shop between jo jingles and J's feed seems impossible, so will just go with the flow..
Oh meant to say had an odd phone call yesterday from the hospital. It was my consultant's secretary ringing to arrange an appointment for me to see the consultant. Something to do with my request to go through my notes (which I have done already with supervisor of midwives, albeit without notes present ). I asked what it was about and she was noncommital, though said the consultant said it needed a special meeting as opposed to usual clinic appoint..So not sure what to think. Had the usual panic where I thought it involved bad news (ie, some test they'd done that showed I had weeks to live.., but on calming down think C has deemed it necessary to see me again to go through things, as I do have to sign to say I'm happy with things etc and he knows I'm a bit of a gobby so and so... Will ring midwife on Monday when she's back in anyway, as she wanted to speak to me yesterday (dh was convinced she was the hv )I also have my 6 week check the week after to go through the EM section ...at this rate I'll get post-traumatic stress just through all this debriefing!!!
Right, all is quiet..will attempt to unload dishwasher if I can be so bold. Back later x

Tink get Sylvanian familes stuff!! I loved it so much when I was dd1's age. I'm hoping to persuade ds1 that he wants it.

Blood test was horrible. The nurse dropped one of the vials so I had to sit there with the needle in my arm while she got it. Results should be back Monday.

morning

we had pizza last night bpught a pizza express garlic bread in tesco and magerita pizza yummy followed my gu cheescake

hi glas glad to have u back
hope you sort out jj order

any thoughts on sylvanian families?! for dds 4th bday

so chuffed was going to get dd1 as one of her xmas pressies leapfrog tag reading system retails @ £40, £30 on amazon i found it in tesco for £9 reduced so well pleased

have done loads of washing etc this morning

EssenceofSes?

Morning!

Diege - enjoy Jo Jingles! I'm sure J will be the centre of attention and it won't matter if he's awake and contributing to the fun!

Kay - hope your blood test is soon over and done with.

I really need a name change. Have been thinking about it for a couple of weeks but can't come up with anything I'm convinced about. I'd like one that I don't need to keep changing that is - in essence - Ses. I can't have Ses though as it's already taken. Any suggestions?

Had a good time at the pub last night. DS was awake and feeding pretty much the whole time but we had good food and I had a lovely glass of red wine

Lovely day here today. I feelI should try and make the most of it

dd3 at home, not 'hope';freudian slip there

Morning! Hope everyone is well. SES, ds sounds lovely and that he is doing really well. LOL at exploding multi-poos; I remember having to put newspapers down on my knee when feeding dd as they were so explosive! Think it's a bf thing but can be quite dramatic
GLASK, you know I knew you'd be on the jojo site - I was too . Got dd3 that doggie dress on front of sale leaflet and a few other practical bits. Agree, was very slow site yesterday!
Hi KAYZ! I'm sure you will have passed your test by the holiday date, but agree that you don't want to pile the pressure on when you have so much on already. Did you sort out meeting with work?
Hello to everyone else . Have dd3 at hope today too and first trip to jo jingles with J and dd3! A bit nervous that he'll wake up and scream the room down, but will face it head on.. Just need to rain to keep away now!

Nat, this website has a hazard perception test on it.

Morning,

Ses, Hope you had a good night last night. The iron tablets are just in a bottle.

GLASK!!!!!! YAY!!!! Manchester is good for me too! So if we just pick a date now we can get tickets sorted out!!

Got that blood test today. I hate blood tests but fasting ones are the worst. I'll be starving by the time I get there.

Hope everyone is ok.

Quick post from me...

STT - glad your appointment went ok and pizza sounds good!

Glask - good to have you back and great to hear Ruby's doing so well.

IDOB - glad all well with your appointment too

LBOT - hope all's ok with you? Have you done your 3 working days this week now? Hope everything's ok with you and your DH again now.

Kay - sorry realised I hadn't replied about the iron tablets. It really does depend on the stock the pharmacy had. If they're in a blister foil, the expiry date may be embossed at one end. Otherwise all I can say is that usually iron tablets would have an expiry of a couple of years from the date of dispensing.

We're off out for pub meal in a bit as it's DH's birthday. It will be DS's first trip to the pub

DS really seems to be changing in the last few days. He's filling out a bit and making lots more chatty, gurgly noises together with some lovely smiles.
He did manage another huge poo this morning. I heard it so took him upstairs to change him and whilst on his changemat there were ANOTHER FIVE explosions!!!

Oops, so much for a quick post!!!

Hi Glask - good to 'see' you back! Its been a little quieter than normal without you around

Had to post, am sitting here, with DS snuggled up next to me, admittedly, a little scrunched up - baby is wriggling around so much at the moment that my right boob keeps bouncing up and down all by itself! LOL

Doesn't hurt yet, but am guessing if it carries on at this rate, feet in ribs are going to start getting uncomfortable.

We've got asda pizza for tea - got them to make me a ham, chicken, sweetcorn and mushroom one - can't wait for DH to come home and cook it for me (i'm not being super idle, I promise, its just that it always comes out either soggy or burnt when I do it - I do a mean lasagna though, even if I can't bake a pizza!!!!)

i'm currently trying to order from jojomamanbebe website its so busy!! i think i'm not gonna be able to complete my order- been waiting half an hour for one page to load!!

i seriously can't get up to date with anyone.... been down for over a week since the lightening (did see it did the same to Nat)... it made the phone lines blow locally, and somehow blew the lines indoors too!!

On top of that we had the leaking emersion heater, but thats sorted now.

In the last week we've been to see about moving house... looks like its gonna cost us more to move than it'd be worth!! which is a bloody pain in the backside!! It'd cost us all the equity from this house to sell and have a deposit for the new mortgage and we'd be moving into a house of about 2 thirds the value of this one- how on earth does that frigin work??... anyway we've decided to stay put and renovate this!!

DD2 is starting to babble and have proper giggling!! it's very cute!! and she's now just over 10lb!!!! wuhoo!!

Kayz- manchester seems a good option- DH will take DS with him if i take both DD's with me... i'm sure we can find somewhere child friendly for our gangs!!

I'm finally back online!!!!!! Wuhoo!!

glad mw appoitnments went well

have decided to go for rosebud camper van to go woth her dolls house then some sylvanian family bits :-

bbq set with cat,seaside set with 2 dogs and toy shop look so cute!! i had sylvanians when i was little

LBOT, I'd have gone home too its not lazy, its essential.

Kayz, I didn't realise you were booking for next year - I thought you were trying to get it done in the next few weeks! Must have missed that bit in my catching up. See your point about trying to get the prices - but at the same time, try to avoid as much stress as you can around driving.

Hi,

just back from my midwife appointment. All good - blood pressure okay, baby's heartbeat good and measuring correctly for dates (actually I'm sure I spotted a 30.5 when I am only 28+4 but she didn't seem concerned and just ticked the 28-32 box). The midwives at the surgery are all so lovely and laid back they never stress about any of these things, just say there is always a range and as long as baby and I seem healthy they are happy .

Should have gone back to work afterwards but decided to be lazy and just head home - boss is on holiady so I may as well take the opportunity.

Kayz - good luck. Can you have a back-up plan to get to your holiday place just so you don't put too much pressure on yourself? Not that I think you'll have a problem but agree with STT that stress makes it tougher.

LB - how is the feeding going today?

Nat - LOL at spider dream

We have to book it now or not go on holiday. They are doing a deal that if you book your 2010 holiday now you get it at the 2009 price. So if we don't book it soon then we have another year without a holiday.

oops

Kayz, can I be slightly cheeky? How about instead of booking the holiday to put the pressure on to pass your test, why don't you just promise yourself that you'll book a holiday as soon as you have passed.

Its just that you do seem to have a lot on in general, and I worry that you might put to much pressure on yourself and end up being stressed...which isn't a good environment to be taking a driving test or holiday in.

<<takes sticky beak away again>>

Kayz, can I be slightly cheeky? How about instead of booking the holiday to put the pressure on to pass your test, why don't you just promise yourself that you'll book a holiday as soon as you have passed.

Its just that you do seem to have a lot on in general, and I worry that you might put to much pressure on yourself and end up being stressed...which isn't a good environment to be taking a driving test or holiday in.

<<takes sticky beak away again>>

Hi all, am back from my MW appt. Baby is lying with its back to my front RH side, which I kind of think I knew, just from where I've been feeling movements.

Blood pressure OK, measuring 27.5 at 27+2 so that's about spot on really. She's given me my MATB1 form and HiP Grant form and taken bloods.

I asked if she thought it was possible that I was anaemic and she said 'anything is possible, but your iron levels were so good at the beginning of pregnancy that I'd be surprised'. She said best to wait till the results come back. So I'll just have to take it easy till then.

DS is very clingy again this afternoon, which is fine by me, I far prefer cuddles on the sofa to charging around like a loony!

Not booked anywhere yet. Still not sure on where to go. Probably somewhere near the peak district.

Going to go and see Glask soon which I'm really looking forward to. Her Internet has been down since a big storm cut it off last week and broke something on their pc.

buying dd1s 4th bday pressy end of this month from elc

going to buy wooden rosebud caravan and stable plus horses to go with her wooden dolls house any other suggestions for toys?

what do your kids play with around age 4 years??

morning

sparkly - you did well yest
bumps - you are having a hard tiome of it!!

nat - glad neighbour spoke , hope phone lines get sorted

just went to dd1s nursery to see the teacher to discuus her final report we got given a book with report in and lovely photos of her doing things her report is excellent

good luck nj

Morning all.

That's about all I can manage. Will keep lurking.

Good morning

Really sorry for all the crappy nights sleep. We did OK here, except me waking up, seeing a huge spider coming crawling up the bed towards me, jumped out of bed screaming at DH that there was a huge spider in our bed, he jumps up, throwing the covers everywhere to find said spider, by this point I am starting to realise that actually I dreamt the spider thing and so got back into bed, and told him off for making a mess of the quilt... DH wasn't impressed

LB, am really trying to draw on the info I was given while BF'ing DS2. As you're finding, what they don't eat during the day, they make up for at night, BFC always really went OTT on offering the breast at least every 3 hours even if they don't seem interested.

Ses, can't believe Owen is 2 months already, time is whizzing by.

STT sorry you are feeling so crap, deffo push for those bloods.

Star, I haven't read your thread yet, will do as soon as I can.

Kayz, you'll be on the road well before next July Where have you booked for?

Diege, sound's like J is doing really well

Have I missed anything else? Sorry, am still zombified from yesterday's early start, it always effect's me the next day, no matter how much sleep I had.

Phone lines have been down since that lightning strike on Tuesday, although t'internet is still working, and not everyone's have gone down, only 3 or 4 of us int he street AFAWK so far. DH tried ringing BT from mobile at 50p a min, was on hold for half an hour so gave up, DS1's school is down, he was supposed to have board games yesterday after school, they cancelled it at last minute, couldn't get hold of me (though they have both DH's and my mob numbers and they didn't try them ) so in I walked at 4 o'clock to pick him up and he'd been sat there for an hour with the HT Wouldn't mind, but we only live across the road, someone could have walked him over the road. The school receptionist has been here twice this morning, first time to see if our lines were working yet, second time to say she's managed to get onto BT and they've told her there is a line down and it will be either today or tomorrow it's fixed, so that probably translates to next week if we're lucky knowing BT.

Neighbour spoke to me this morning, seemed absolutely fine, so whether she's had a few days out and realised what she was doing and has calmed down or not, I don't know. I suppose time will tell.

And, had some news yesterday, not really sure what to make of it. My dad, who I haven't seen since I was 14, and that was the first time since I was 8, had his leg amputated on Saturday. I knew he was probably going to have to have it done for a while, and I have to say, it didn't upset me, or play on my mind or anything, I don't know him, but knowing he has actually had it done, I don't know, it just keeps popping into my head. Am thinking that was what was behind the spider dream, only ever remember dreams when I've got something going round my head.

Anyway, I have a load of washing to put away, a load to put in the dryer, another load to go in the washer, got to clear up and hoover, have done the bedrooms, bathroom and most of the kitchen, could also do with some food at some point, belly rumbling.

thanks for all your messages. he isn't feeding agian today..... he fed every hour last night but just wont feed now.... i am getting so stressed. he wont take a bottle either......

people are telling me to not let him feed in the night but he is only 4 months surely i can not starve him.... (well i wont do it anyway)....

I am going to go to gp tomorrow i think for some advise and may ask for prescription for a dairy free formula...... i have just tried to express and got nothing out. is it possiable to only produce milk at night? if that was the case though wouldn't he be hungry and screaming for food rathing than refusing to feed iyswim!!!

LOL Kay!! Nothing like piling the pressure on yourself eh?!

Morning Diege! I totally agree about that "Is he a good baby?" question. He's not old enough to be naughty is he?! He's just a gorgeous little newborn!!

Owen is 2 months old today - how scary is that!! Maybe not such a newborn!!

Right I am offically mad!! But I'm going to book a holiday for next July so I have to be able to drive!!

STAR, LB (and Kayz!!) those nights sound horrendous . Really hope you can getb through the day ok - remember that horrible dragging tiredness all too well xx
Not a great one here last night either; J unsettled, grunting all night with constipation, and waking 11, 1.30, 3.00 and 6. A bad one for him, but should stay asleep for his morning nap so I can get dressed etc. Doing the school pick up for the first time since his birth today!!
Hope everyone is ok - it really helps to be able to off load/empathise with everyone about feeding etc on the wagon, as the early days can be so isolating when you think it's just your baby that is not being 'good' (hate that 'is he good'? thing )

Just cross-posted. Empathise totally with you LB. DD finally settled at 10.30pm, then was up at 12.50, fed for 15 mins - realised that I was just so shattered I didn't even have energy to wind her properly when she woke up 10 mins after I put her down, with wind, so gave up and got into bed in her room and then was on and off all night . Am so exhausted and didn't get any time to express yesterday, so in danger of not having enough milk to leave on Sat.
On plus side, am getting my hair cut this morning for first time since before she was born, so might feel more human then (although will probably fall asleep at basin)!!

Oh and Bumpy - formula we had was Nutramigen (hypoallergenic formula), but it's about £12/tin over the counter - we had it on prescription.

Star I didn't for one min think you were pushing bf please dont worry...

well i settled ds at 10:30 he then woke up at 2, 3:15, 4:30 and 6 for feeds.... He fed everytime!! I have just tried to feed him now and he wont take any.... I give up!!!!!!!!!

I am so fed up and tired I am seriously thinking about giving him to the gypsys....

Sooo sorry Bumpy - DD did not settle til 10.30pm last night, so didn't manage to get back on. Also, my first post (which never materialised) said what everyone else has said - you are doing an amazing job with DS, you will never lose that bond and you will be able to still comfort him. You've done far better than I did with DS - he was on top-ups from 11 weeks and then went full ff by 5 months. I also worried that I wouldn't be able to comfort him without offering the boob, but he was so much happier/more comfortable, he was fine. Does your DS take a dummy or suck his thumb? DS had found his thumb by that stage, so he was able to comfort himself.

I hope you didn't think by me posting my thread last night that I was pushing bfing. In my lost post I had said I really think that whatever makes you happy will make DS happy, but if you wanted some support from the other angle - thought you might find it helpful to see the links people had put on my thread about sleep regression in 4-6 month olds and the info about bfing.

Going to get a urine sample from DD today (getting practised at these!) and take it up to HV - she is going to test it, so if it is a uti she can be treated, if not, guess I need to get tough on the whole sleep business with DD!

Right, she has done her early morning business (another thing that suggests to me that she's not 100% - she normally poos every day, but last week has been going 48 hours or more without and then having really runny ones - sorry if TMI and you're eating breakfast!!)

"See" you all later.

Ooops meant to give you a link to Mums Piggy business!! Here if you ever want a whole pig for a spit roast!!

Morning,

DS2 woke at half 5 so I had to get up with him. Tried to make DH get up but I am wide awake now.

Ses, I've got a question to ask you. I've got some iron tablets that I was given about a week before DS2 was born. MW said to stop taking them as Anaemia would sort itself out now he was here. Do you think they are still ok to take? I can't find a date on them. Just thought if they make me feel better then I can just keep taking them.

Bumpy, Please don't think you have failed him!! Perhaps he was just having an off day. I hope he didn't keep you up all night. Everyone is right, you won't lose your bond with him. I have a great bond with both of my boys and they were/are both FF.

My teeth are killing me. I don't know what is wrong but can't be seen until 2 weeks time!!

Hope you are all well.

Re: Reigate meet up, I can do 27th, 28th July or 3rd August. Bumps - which is best for you? Gruff - is one of those going to be easier to try and arrange?

Bumps - everyone else has said it really. I hope too that yesterday was a blip for you. If he ends up taking FF though, please don't feel bad. You have done amazingly well and I'm sure you won't lose that bond as you've got an established bond with him. I think it would be a bigger change for you than for him tbh.

GYo - if SG is on Nystatin then just remember that once she's swallowed it, it won't be effective. Keep it in her mouth as long as possible and wipe it around the inside of her mouth with a clean finger.

Gruff - don't know if that helps you at all too. Hope your mum staying is helpful and going well.

Diege - J is doing really well!! Hope the reflux doesn't become a big problem.

LBOT - hope you and DH had a better evening. We found that we argued loads more in the last few weeks before the birth.

Star - how utterly exhausting for you. Hope the other thread has helped.

STT - another one here that thinks youvshould persist with your iron levels

also meant to say re reigate meet up it is going to be difficult for me as DH may need the car as its his summer hols and we take out a girl we look after with autism in the holidays so he may need the car. (it is usually everyday) What time is it likely to be? If we say what date everyone else can do and then I will try and organise it so I can have the car! Sorry its so complicated !

Hi all

Really busy with my mum here but have tried to lurk when possible!

Bumps - with GC I use Dr Browns and Avent - however I am just switching over to Avent copletely now as I find Dr Browns too faffy like moosy said and also they leak loads. However I do think they work well, but think that Avent are really good too.

Re Easy Digest milk from Aptimil I had to switch back to normal aptimil as ED gave GC terrible wind in an already colicky baby!They also say that expect for babies wind to increase at first - doh! ED is actually meant for reflux babies as the formula is much thicker so supposed to be harder to bring up.I am on the aptimil forums. there is a helpline you can ring for advice.let me know if you want it.

GC is back to normal aptimil milk and does seem to have 'silent reflux' now and again, tonight he was really choking on it!Its horrible.I am happy with the milk though. All my nieces and nephews used it too.

Bumps - you have to do what you have to do to feed your child at the end of the day. You are doing a fab job and there is no way you could ever break that bond between you and DS. I gave up BF at 10 weeks and was heartbroken but I had to do what was best for him and he was hungry and I couldnt feed him myself. I was so stressed out as it wasn't working. It was a very difficult decision but I don't regret it.

Gyo - is it Nystan Nystatin that SG is on? If so beware!GC has had two courses of this and we are going back to the docs tomorrow as he still has thrush!The poor thing is still struggling with feeding its awful!

Right I have rambled on enough! I will try get back on tomorrow

Do what you feel happy with (he took it tonight so you are doing fabulously!!!!!)

Well DS refused the bottle and after an hour of trying I eventually offered the breast which he took. I really hope today is a blip and he will feed as normal tomorrow because I dont think my supply will cope with just feeding in the evening and night time.

He has just gone down and fed for over an hour so hope we get a couple of hours rest at least...

Do you think it could be teeting? Jessica never really suffered with her teeth so I have no negative experiance of teething!!

Star I will go over to your thread now...

Evening . STAR, just seen your thread and while I have no advice to offer as such it must so hard and tiring feeding like that through the night. Some useful advice there though - fwiw the hush pat thing worked for me too, if you start it the minute they start crying.
STT, agree with MOOS, are you sure your mw didn;t just walk in off the street??!!! Duff advice there def re: anaemia I'd say for sure - nothing to do with bleeds etc Also agree MOOS that 9.8 needs treatment!

LB, can;t really put it better than others have done, only to add that I am in full admiration of how you have coped up to now, and really take my hat off to you. Also, be assured that aptimil is pretty good stuff and that you have given ds the best start xx

GYO, glad you got your meds; I think all gps say the same re: meds in pregnancy and bf, just because there have been no clinical trials. Was the same with my strong pile cream Hoping you get some relief - sounds horrendous!

Well J doing well - has put on 12 oz this week so is now 10ib 13oz, back on 91st percentile. She has also confirmed that he has reflux <sigh>, but after observing him (and looking at weight gain)doesn;t think he's bothered by it, at least not in terms of acid reflux at the moment. He does bring up at least an ounce or two after each bottle feed, enough to have to change him, and it''s often over an hour after the feed and not at all curdled (the key to diagnosing it she says). Not too concerned as she says 50% of babies have it - just been lucky with the other 3, and certainly no-where near LB's experience...just more of an inconvenienece regarding his clothes and bedding etc..
Right, must do kitchen before torchwood. Anyone else watching this week's episodes?

Aaargh, just lost the long post I wrote - got to go, bedtime beckoning. Will be back later.

Okay, don't know what's happening here, as I didn't mean to post then, don't know if post is showing, as MN keeps just showing me first few messages on this thread up to 14 June!

Link to my thread is

Ooooooooooohhhh wispa and haagendaszszs (however you spell it?!)

I hauled backside of sofa, collected DS, popped into see friends for quick cup of tea, dropped some stuff at the tip, went shopping and came home. Have since, emptied the fridge of all sprouting, running, oozing items (bleurgh), repacked it with all new items, emptied and loaded the dishwasher, washed DH's shirts, tidied the lounge, MN, and cooked some jacket pots for tea.

Really ought to get on and feed ds though

Am feeling better after my whinge, I like a good whinge, it makes me annoyed with myself and normally galvanises me into action!

Moos, interesting what you say about my MW, I'm fairly sure she's talking rubbish too, if she doesn't offer me a blood test tomorrow (which would be 28 week test a few days early), I'll book an appt with the doctor. I need a new prescription for AD's anyway so it won't be a wasted appt.

Right, really must feed my son! <<bad mum emoticon>>. Promise I'll try and catch up with all your afternoon postings after DS has gone to bed.

got bracken weighed in 2 weeks she has gained 6ozs is now 12lbs15ozs folowing 2nd centile

hi ladies

sorry that alot of you are having bad days

lastbox - sorry for huge row we always rowed when i was pregnant

kay - god you mil needs disposing of
cupcakes are yummy for any event

sparkly - sorry to hear you are feeling so awful hope u feel better soon

moosy i took spatone iron satchets found them brillant

bumps - poor you i know how frustrating it can be when they dont feed with dd1 i breast fed her for 5wks and one day she just was on me all day then i quit i was fed up and had had enough
good luck going to bottles, i use mam ones

right what this wagon needs is :-

tink brings in a wispa for everyone
some haagendaz of everyflavour
big dairymilks
cornettos
new fluffy cushions

Aw bless him, at least he's trying, but no, that's not really the point is it? Still, if you do get hammered every night he'll have to get up and do all the night feeds while you sleep in drunken bliss!

Wait in line Mossy I am there first....

DP keeps sending me silly text messages to try and make me feel better!!! He has just said he will be my taxi for a month so i can have a drink at all upcoming parties....... He is trying but just doesn't get it....

I think I'd chop its arms and legs off and beat it with the wet ends!

Oh yes star if you are lurking what was the formula you tried?? Can you buy it over the counter?

Hospital appointment is on Monday, I think the drugs he's on are definatly working for him as he doesn't seem to be in as much pain. He is still sick but has good and bad days!! It is just the non sleeping, non feeding that is getting me down. I cant stay in all the time just incase he doesn't feed so that I can express.... He is quiet happy today he just will not feed he has been on for about 15 mins all day... Which means I will be up all night agian I expect. But I am worried that I wont produce enough milk if he doesnt feed in the day!!! I also can not go on with such little sleep, if nothing else it is not fair on dd as I keep snapping at her!!!!

Well I am going to try formula tonight at 7 so we will see how it goes... I really hate reflux and if it was a person i might bob it on the nose...

Oh, re bottles and formula.

My friend has baby with bad colic and uses easy digest formula and doctor browns. Both these have really helped. I know its not the same as reflux but it cant hurt to try.

Star mentioned hypoallergenic formula previosly too... might be worth trying

Oh, and I tried Dr Brown's bottles with DD2 when she was bad and found them too much of a faff so reverted back to the standard wide neck Avent ones. Had to try a few different teats before we found one that suited her.

DH is buying steak on his way home but has been held up so am stealthily eating wotsits to keep me going, the vultures DDs haven't heard the packet rustling yet! Shhhhhh....

Oh Bumpy, so sorry you feel this way, you've done amazingly well already, I got where you are now at only 11 weeks with DD1. I've never used Aptimil but I've heard good things about it. How long is it until your hospital appointment? Also remember that just because you try formula, it doesn't mean you're committed to it, and it doesn't mean you'll lose your bond either, (I feel I actually have a closer bond with DD2 who was FF from 11 days) and of course you'll be able to comfort him you're his mummy!

You're NOT failing him, and if you need to sit and cry, then do sit and cry, I know I have done many many times and it does help (but I try to wait until no-one's looking! ). Reflux is such a demoralising bugger, it really is, I would say don't let it get you down but of course it does, but don't let it keep you down.

Hi Bumps

So sorry you are feeling so sad
<< sends not so secret wagon hug packaged in an "American Style" (sorry LBOT!) muffin>>

It is a hugely difficult decision to make so im not suprised you feel sad. I've not been throught what you have but I'd say its ok to feel sad etc. Take care of yourself and you've done brilliantly to get as far as you have done.

Lets sort out a date for the Reigate priory park? We can have real muffins then.

Maybe 27th or 28th July? or monday after? Im fairly easy on days. Mondays or Tuesdays are good for me.

Ses/ Gruff - any good for you two?

Oh Bump - sorry things aren't getting any easier for you . I know my SIL originally used Tommy Tippee bottles with SMA milk but swapped to Dr Brown bottles and aptimil which she said were much better (DN had an upset stomach and was a bit more sicky when she changed from breastfeeding to bottle feeding although she wasn't ever very bad but they had no problems at all once they changed to Dr Browns bottles and Aptimil). She didn't have reflux though so I don't know how useful that is for you. Fingers crossed it works for DS and hopefully DH can at least do some feeds so you can get some sleep. You must be shattered!

Hello everyone

IBOB- sorry for achiness and tiredness. Dont envy that bit of pregnancy at all.

STT- sorry you are tired too, hope you can get to the bottom of it. Maybe you just need more rest (read that as time lounging on sofa, MNing and eating choc brownies!)

Hi Nat

Ses- photos are great, you take a great picture.

LBOT- sorry for row, sent you a message on FB.

Got Fluconazole from GP, despite her telling me it wasnt licenced for BFing... weird, thought she'd say no, then just gave it to me Glad I got it thought as my boobs are aching a lot more now. Only thing is DDs symptoms arent improving with her medicine and we are nearly at the end of it.... Cant face ANOTHER GP appointment!

DH gone out this afternoon so its nice to have some time in the house alone but downside is that its a mess so need to get tidied up shouldnt complain as I just had a nice lunch out with the NCT ladies. Even the competitive one was on good form!

Owen had another bad night last night. He was awake from 2 until 6 then slept till 8. He has not fed all day today and I am stressing out about my supply on top of everything else.. So I have taken the hardest decision to try formula (he may or may not take it anyway). I feel that I am now at the end of my teather and today has been so bad he just will not feed and I just cant take anymore. I feel I am failing him and nothing anyone will say will make me feel any different.... I just want to sit and cry for hours, I feel that the bond I have with him will now go and that i will not be able sooth him etc etc....

I have bought a DR Brown bottle today as they are ment to be good with reflux and 3 trial cartons of aptimal.... Has anyone tried this??

STT, your MW is talking bollocks! My iron test results from last week came back today, it's dropped to 9.5 and I've been taking loads of iron and not bleeding from anywhere!

I rang up for my results today and the receptionist said "Dr's seen them and has marked them as satisfactory" I asked for the actual number anyway and she said 9.5 so I said, "That's NOT satisfactory! I might be for him but it's not for me!" So I've got a Dr's appointment on friday. Not sure what they can actually do about it, but at least I can try!

Well done with the driving Nat, you really sound like you're getting out of the rut that you were stuck in!

Good news about your tummy muscles Diege, the tubigrip sounds delightful SIL had one after having twins (both were 7lb) and she now has a flat flat tummy, so it can be done!

Hi STT - sorry you are feeling so rubbish . I feel a bit crap today too - I guess we have both crashed straight into the third trimester .

I'm very tired today and my bump aches all over for some reason. Combined with the braxton hicks thingies it is making me quite uncomfortable and I'm just feeling a bit fed up - probably the post-holiday blues. I feel bad for whinging though when so many of you have had difficult nights with the LOs .

Kayz - don't worry about the theory, I think it's one of those things that just clicks all of a sudden and you'll wonder how you ever struggled with it.

Nat - sounds like you are a natural behind the wheel.

LBOT - sorry for fight with DH . How are you feeling today? Do you think it's just the hormones and worries making you fall out? It's so exciting knowing you are getting closer to meeting your baby but I know my DP is also starting to feel a bit stressed.

Tink - hope you had a nice lunch.

Gyo - hope you managed to see the GP

Hi Diege <waves>

(catch up from Monday, I couldn't get online yesterday)

Hi all, its taken me ages to catch up from yesterday, and I've forgotten most of it, except that most of you seem to have had crap nights - sorry about that, hope they sleep during the day for you so that you can catch up with rest?

Am feeling completely washed out, like somebody has drained all my blood away. Feel hardly capable of moving. DS is in nursery this morning, got to go get him in a minute though, after they left (DH and DS) early this morning, I went back to bed and had an extra three hours sleep and it doesn't really seem to have helped.

I've got a Madwife appt. tomorrow to get my Matb1 form so I can claim Maternity Allowance, I'll ask if she can check my iron levels, even though she reassured me last time that they couldn't be low unless I'd had an enormous bleed

I AM SOOOOO TIRED.

There's toys all over the floor in front of me that I 'sorted out' yesterday with DS, that need bagging up / binning. I just can't be bothered to even think about going and getting a bin bag and putting them in.

I need to go food shopping too :-(

Perhaps I'll just get what I need for tonight and do an online shop for the rest .

Sorry for me, me, me - I just feel SOOOOOO terrible.

Am a bit off my food at the moment too - don't think the blocked nose helps.

Thanks, Kay. and LOL about your MIL's comment! We DO have christenings in America, you know! And we even have cakes for them!

LBOT, Sorry about row. Hope things are better soon. I had that "American Style" with my cupcakes for DS2's christening. MIL said to DH and me that they were "a bit American for a christening" I mean WTF!! How can a cake be American, surely it is just a cake??

Well, I guess it was the night for shit nights...DH and I had a massive fight last night. Really takes away from the excitement of the baby as who wants to bring a child into a relationship like this! And I feel totally crap today - plus had a really awful commute. Just not in the mood for life today - anyone else?

Ses - sorry about your crap outing, but I agree you handled it really well. And so lovley of that woman to get you a hot chocolate! Almost restores your faith in humanity!

Nat - sounds like you're a driving wiz!

Diege - good news about your stomach muscles

Kay - so sorry your DS1 was sick! Hope he's feeling better soon.

GYO - hope you can manage to get an appointment - sounds very painful! Your muffins sound lovely. I always think it's so funny when people call things "American Style" - especially when it comes to fridges for some reason. I honestly knew about one person who had a side by side fridge and it was a bit crap because each side was too narrow to fit anything in! but, I guess I understand why they're called that.

morning

ses - hope your day is less stressful

nat - well done with lesson

i would wean him i started weaning both girls @ 4 months and dd1 didnt sit up till 9 mnths. dont see why they need to sit up i fed both of them in bouncer till they could sit up.

just about to have lunch and watch gaving and stacey and ladette to lady then getting bracken weighed

My friend(and supervisor) just text me. I need to go and see my manager about going back to worksad I really don't want to go back at all. I am really upset about it.

Yes I've had about 7 lessons. Hoping to go out with Mum this weekend.

Kayz, don't worry about the theory test, one read through the book, and a few more practises you'll have it. I did get really worked up about it first time round, have no idea why, passed no problems, was 100 times easier and simpler than I thought it would be! It's barely crossed my mind this time! Have you done any driving at all ever? They say with the theroy test/hazard perception, that although obviously you have to pass it before the practical, it is better to take the theory after you've had some experience of driving. And if you have your car sorted now, it might just be the carrot and the stick thing, I know after my lesson last night, I am raring to have a go in our car! We'll be learner driver buddies! and a slight <cringe>! C'mon Diege, we'll get you going as well

Ses, take it easy today, time for a relax methinks!

Diege, well, at least it's better news re. your belly! Think mine are about a mile apart, have been since after DS1 so can't see it ever going back now!

And you two, no more talking of broodiness please (have had baby programs on telly since before 6 this morning ) Am not broody for another one, but am definatly feeling the 'never again having a tiny baby' thing rear it's head every now and again, especially because Mikey seems to be growing up so quickly. And, I think even more so than the baby thing, I am really sad that I'll never give birth again The pregnancy on the other hand, is a whole different story! 'Bout time DH got his bloody referal through!

At least you know that this time next year you will either be ttc or pregnant! It's the end of the road for me!

Don't say that Diege!! Still terribly broody here. I keep trying to avoid looking at any pictures of babies at all!!

Oh SES those piccies are great . LOve the way that the babies look so calm with the (very glam) mums, and seem to be screaming their heads off when pictured with the dads . Felt a stirring of broodiness looking at the babies , which is nuts as I have one just the same asleep upstairs

Morning! Poor you SES - I think everyone with children has had lots of days like that, not that it's much consolation at the time! Sounds like you coped really well actually. I think it can be tempting to scale things down with babies, but my philosophy has always been just do it and if things get mega stressful just abandon ship. Knowing I can just come home always makes potentially stressful trips doable, although still quite stressy! Will have a look at you fb piccies now x
Sorry for odd nights everyone - just when you think you know what's what. J also had an odd one last night, waking 1ish crying, but I knew he wasn;t hungry after feeding at 11 and he settled after a few mins. Then awake at 4ish, so fed,then awake at 6 . Not so bad as night's go I suppose!
Great about the driving NAT! How are you finding reverse round corner etc?? That (and parallel parking) was my nemesis, and probably stopped me booking in for test. Sounds like you are a natural!
Hospital appointment was good yesterday. Felt really odd being back there, but J behaved himself on the bus and during the appointment. Physio says my mw was a bit OTT as the separation is only 2 fingers width, and hardly the scaremongering mw made out it to be Have exercises and a very fetching tubigrip to wear...also ordered a book off amazon that details the Tupler method, that I've heard is good. Am determined to get my flat tummy back!
GYO, that does sound painful Hope you can get an appointment x
HV here at 11, then out for lunch with frined and her 4 week old baby. MIL wants to come round this afternoon to see J, but will have to limit her to an hour or so (sounds awful I know!) as will be wiped out by that time...hope she can take the hint!
Hi to everyone else

Ses, those pics are great. I love the ones of the babies all lying down with all the parents with them! So cute!!

Have added some photos of our NCT bbq to my FB

Morning!

Feeling a bit drained still from yesterday but onwards & upwards! DS has already had half an hour in his bouncy chair this morning so thete's a load of washing in the machine and I'm up, dressed and breakfasted

Nat - driving lesson sounds like it weny v well!

Kay & GYo - sorry for disturbed nights.

morning

Nat. Glad the driving went well. Sounds like you will be wizzing about in no time!

Must be night for weird wakenings. Dd woke twice at 12,30 and 4.30 rather than her usual once at 4. Tried to get her back to sleep at 4.30 without food but think she was hungry. Either that or she knew I have it on tap! Was feeling rathered annoyed by DH sleepng next to us with duvet over his head. He could at least offer to help soothe her in the night. I'd probably say no but the offer would be appreciated!!

Kay, hope DS is ok now.

Got to go and play phone roulette trying to get through to the doctors surgery for an appt!

Argh!! Just failed another 2 theory tests! I hope there isn't a limit to how many you can do!!

I do have a book and some cds somewhere so must hunt them out!!

Morning

Ses, hope you've managed to wind down from yesterday's ordeal? Have been in similar situations myself with DS1 when he was a baby, always knocked my confidence for six. What a lovely kind thing for that lady to do for you though (No one bought me hot chocolates! )

GYo, hope you are feeling a bit better this morning, and if not that the doc get's you sorted ASAP.

Kayz, hope DS1 is feeling better soon.

Have been awake since 4.15, Mikey woke up about 3.30, which was very odd for him, got him settled back down but think because it was already light he had other ideas, so I gave up at 4.15 and bought him down, gave him a bottle, and of course he went straight back to sleep! He is waking earlier and earlier. Am wondering if it's now time to start weaning? But, he's still not able to sit up properly (he kind of does but it's more the size of his belly that keeps him up rather than the strength of himself!) and have passed him the odd piece of toast and a few pieces of veggies/fruits, but he just looks at them, hasn't once tried to put it in his mouth.

Driving went well I think. Instructor said he thinks I'll be test ready well in time for October, somewhere between 10 and 20 hours he reckons, which since you do two hours at a time, it's hopefully going to be a bit quicker than I expected It's strange because before the lesson I was trying to remember everything I'd learnt 3 or 4 years ago, could barely remember a thing, but after 2 minutes in the car we were out on a main road doing 50mph! Did the reversing round the corner and the bay park (which I wasn't shown once last time!) Gear changes were a bit chuggy, but were improving as the lesson went on. And yes, I managed to be the PITA learner driver, in front of a queue of cars at the lights, stalled it Luckily the lights were on red anyway so I didn't hold up all the traffic! Ah well, was better than when I was learning before, I stalled it on one of the worst juctions in Blackburn, in a yellow box no less! And I did have an excuse, thought I'd be sensible and wear my trainers, except the clutch had ridges on it, and my trainer soles had ridges on them and they kept locking together, that's why it stalled, nothing to do with me at all, ohhhhhh nooooooooooo

Right, it's finally come round to 7 o'clock, been waiting for it being time to get going for bloody hours, now it's here, and I don't want to get going now!

See you all later no doubt xx

Morning,

DS1 has just woke us up by being sick. We think he drank his bottle that had been there all night. DH forgot to take it out of his room last night. We're hoping it was the milk and not a bug.

Ses, that does sound like a stressful day. Hope today is better for you.

Gyo, hope you feel better soon. A lot of the December girls have had mastitis and they say it feels like they have the flu and the boob is very hot.

Hope everyone is well, using my new iPod touch. It's surprisingly easy to use.

Thanks GYo and Bumpy.

He did a couple of good burps (finally!) about 20 mins ago so we're both feeling a bit better now.

GYo - don't know how you find time to make muffins or brownies. I'm not complaining and will gladly have one!

Didn't get DH a present. I have already got him some aftershave and a book from Owen called "Why I love my Daddy". We're going to try and go for a meal at our nearby pub on Thursday evening too - the 3 of us for the first time!

Hope we all have good nights.

hello

Ses- sorry. For your bad afternoon not suprised you wanted to cry too. Hope you and DS are ok now. I personally find shopping alone with DD stressful without the poo and crying additions. Not to mention todays rain. Did you manage to get DH a present? Faxing you a choc muffin. Decided they are good after all now they are cold.

Hi Bumps, think you are right, there isn't any redness. I also phoned the bf lady who said to get some oral fluconazole (?) as if it is deep thrush cream won't touch it. Going to get emergency appt tomorrow as its v painful now.

Hi everyone else !

GYO I had mastitis quite bad recently. Had to have AB to get rid of it in the end. It hurts like hell, but you just feed from it as much as possiable. I had flu like symptoms and when I fed it felt like glass coming out. no need to give formula but try to offer the boob as much as possiable so you clear all the tubes......

I also changed poss for a while and adopted the football hold. Look at the boob is there any redness on it?

If it just aches then doesn't sound like mastitis as it is bloody painful even touching the boob killed me....

Ses ds is also an exploder in the poo department. He only goes once every 5 days but when he goes boy does he go!!!!

Hi!

Heavy rain, thunder and lightening here too. Victoria station in London is closed due to flooding!

GYo - sorry no expert in mastitis. BF counsellor is a good idea though. I've only ever heard good things and it took one to spot Owen's tongue tie.

I'm feeling really drained, tired and tearful this evening. No really good reason, just a few things building up. I'm going to offload about it though...
(You do have permission to laugh if you manage to wade through it all!)

Started off well as the surveyor came round at 12.30 and so DS and I headed off into town. Got the essentials in Boots and then went to look round M&S and Burton for a birthday present for DH. Within a couple of minutes of being in M&S, I heard DS's bottom. He has a habit of exploding poo at the moment so decided to head off to Costa as I knew they had changing facilities and I needed some lunch. Before I got chance to leave M&S, I could see he needed changing. Leakage coming through the leg of one of his shorts . I grabbed some baby wipes from the change bag to cover and stem the leak and headed outside the shopping centre to Costa.
It was then that I noticed it was chucking it down with rain. I had a choice of going outside and nipping round the corner in the rain to Costa or going upstairs to the other end of the shopping centre in the hope there were decent changing facilities in the centre toilets. I went for legging it round the corner so put the sun parasol up on the buggy to shield DS, ran past everyone who was sheltering from the rain and burst into Costa. There were 3 girls waiting at the counter to serve with no queue so I explained I was just going to use the facilities and promised to come back and order.
The toilet was engaged so I waited patiently outside although DS was using his lungs to show how uncomfortable he was by this point. We waited and we waited. I tried the handle twice, no joy. After nearly 15 minutes, I decided to go back down the front and ask the girls to check if all was ok with whoever was in there. I passed 2 elderly ladies on the way who stopped to fuss over DS and sympathise with his tears. In the meantime an elderly man appeared from the toilet so I went in and stripped DS and changed him. Fortunately I had a change of clothes for him - he needed it!
Once changed, he still was not at all happy. I tried to calm him down in the toilet but decided the best thing to do would be to sit and feed him and ask one of the girls serving to get me a hot chocolate. I left the toilet and saw the two elderly ladies again. DS was still screaming so I tried to get away from them politely by saying I needed to feed him and was going to ask one of the girls to get me a drink.
One of the ladies then showed such kindness and generosity. She told me not to worry and to sit down so I could feed him and she went and got me a hot chocolate. Bless her, it was so thoughtful and then she refused to take any money from me.
He fed and started to settle after about 20 mins so I put him back in his buggy and headed back to M&S. He wasn't happy though and started crying again. I'm convinced he had got a load of wind from all the crying he did whilst we were waiting to change him. So we headed home.
He then cried (except for the 2 lots of feeds) until about 8pm. DH came home and I was trying not to cry. I'd never got my sandwich in Costa and I think my blood sugar levels were too low too.
All seems so pathetic now. Sorry, just wanted to get the rollercoaster afternoon off my chest.

Even whilst typing that, DS has done another huge exploding poo!!! Another change of clothes needed!!

Just feeding him again and going to watch Torchwood.

Sorry IDOB, that was my fault- think I didnt copy the latest syndicate

Where abouts is your boat? sounds like fun

Nat- we have similar rain/ thunder here the small giraffe is a bit small to be too scared but then we havent had claps of thunder overhead!! Hope your boys are ok...

Sorry to hear about your neighbour.. no real advice im afraid, im crap at dealing with that kind of thing!

ooh lightening!!! <<ducks under laptop>>>

Tink clarks shoes do sound good as does price in sale! Im shocked how much kids shoes cost!

I've just branched out in my baking and tried to make american style (sorry LBOT- sounds awful!!) chocolate muffins (rather than my usual brownies)... They are ok but not quite right, not really chocolaty enough... Anyone want to try one? <<< puts on kettle to make pot of tea>>

Am waiting to speak to a BF counsellor about my thrush, as I am not sure thats what it is... still really aching and Im worried it might be early mastitis now...

Has anyone had any of these? Does it mean I ghave to give DD formula for a while if it gets really bad?

Sound's like a good afternoon Tink

Well, we've just been struck by lightning, well near as damn it. It's getting a bit scary out there now, we had a strike put down last week that's knocked our surround sound out. And now this one tonight, sounded a lot closer, could even hear 'bits' falling after the initial bang, car and house alarms going off all over the shop, all 3 of mine crying their hearts out. I like storms, but not really very much when they get like this! It was really loud, sounded like a gun shot out the front. Oh the drama <wipes damp brow>

Am waiting for DH to get home now, only a couple more hours, and then I've got to bloody drive in it. We should have a <shitting my pant's> emoticon!

Thank goodness the electric hasn't gone, yet!

hi

kay - glad machine sorted
ipod touch sounds good
good luck with theory it will be fine

nj - wow @ house
not so wow @ location
lol @ theory answer!!

hi bummpy and se

just had dd1s last school visit

wont be there till sept now

finishes nursery next fri

went to town this morning sorted her glasses and swapped her pink shoes for white clarks trainers £12 in sale. luv clarks trainers the deatail is great. they have glittery sequins on, pink bottoms with purple birds on and they flash.

then we enjoyed swimming

Bump and I seem to have fallen off the bottom of the list so I'll just staple us back on.

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thurs 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- Sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Moosy - Monday 27 July at 4.23am, 7lb 9oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
GYo - Weds 29th July at 10.00am 8lb 8oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz
IDOB - Friday 31st July 9pm, 7lb 2oz
Bump - Tuesday 4th August 1am, 7lb 4oz

hello

here is my guess on the syndicate... off for catch up now.

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thurs 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- Sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Moosy - Monday 27 July at 4.23am, 7lb 9oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
GYo - Weds 29th July at 10.00am 8lb 8oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

TBH with the neighbour situation, am just going to play it by ear. If she speaks (nicely) then I will, but anymore snide comments or if she doesn't speak then that'll be it, I'm not spending the last few months we have here walking on egg shells.

Bumpy, I really don't know how you are managing. Wish I could do something to give you even just a few hours break. It is always scary when they react to the injections.

Ses, glad Owen coped OK with the treatment, bless him gurgling at the lights

Kayz, glad the washer is sorted, and don't worry about the hazard perception stuff, most of it is really obvious (kids right next to road kicking ball, lorry about to turn out of a tight corner etc.) even with no driving experience it is just mostly common sense. A lot of the theory test questions are just common sense, remember one of the questions was:

You are approaching a Zebra crossing, you can see pedestrians waiting to use the crossing. Do you:
A) speed up to get past the crossing before they start to cross.
B) stop at the crossing, rev your engine and sound your horn to let them know you are waiting for them to cross.
C) Put your hazard lights on to warn the drivers behind you that you are about to stop.
D) Slow down and stop, giving plenty of time for them to cross.

I went for B

IDOB, glad your boating w'end went well, sound's very relaxing

House is a deffo no go, it is advertised as being on a 'private road' which it seems is actually a bridleway, but it's used as a rat run, is also known for fly tipping and where they dump stolen vehicles, and on top of all of that, it floods!

So that's why it's so cheap hey?!

Still.... That Kitchen!!

DS is now screaming as, god forbid, I put him down for 5 mins.. So will be back soon!!!

Sorry x-posted with loads of you as my mum phoned whilst I was typing.

Bumpy - how is DS doing? What about DD - has she calmed down at all?

Nat - definitely an OMG house!!! Reaaly well refurbished!

How many spelling mistakes can I make in one post

Back from GP. She was running 20mins late again bu DS was v brave and stared at the lights on the ceiling whilst gurgling away quite happily whilst she applied the silver nitrate!

LBOT - I think you've done the right thing in cutting down gradually at work. It probably feels as if you could have started ML by now but (heaven forbid) if he's nearly 2 weeks late, you'd be getting frustrated. Hopefully work are being understanding anyway.

IDOB - glad you had a good wkend. Sounds v relaxing!

Diege - know exactly what you mean about not getting chance to watch the planned dvds before LO arrived!

afternoon all.

Nat it is not nice when you fall out with neighbours but at the same time you can not let anyone try to live your life for you. I think i would write them a letter and letting them know how upset you are that they told ds to shut up and that you are disapointed that she is letting her argument with friend to influence the way she is treating you and your boys... To be honest if anyone told dd to shut up while she is playing in the garden I would not only give them a piece of my mind but also have nothing more to do with them.

Ses hope today goes well and that it isn't as painful for little O.

Diege I havent heard from sorky either is she on Holiday??? J is lovely Diege he really is getting big isn't he!!

If you are lurking Sorky hope you are well!!!

I have been having a crap time. DS still not sleeping both little ones have had a nasty virus and ds had his 3rd lot of jabs yesterday and had an adverse reaction last night so we were up all night again.. He seems ok now but he was ok yesterday after jabs it was only at about 11 that he went downhill...

Moosy how is the barn coming along? I have eagily following progress and pics on FB....

Kay I would get a new machine as well we only paid £150 for ours....

LBOT sorry for my late date on the syndicate but dont worry I have only got one right so he will be a week old by the date I predict comes around I am sure.....

He everyone else I will try to keep up but can not promise i am shattered....

You are very bad.

<looks at phone>

You are very bad!

It sold for half a mil in 2007 And it's been refurb'ed since then!

How can they make any money renting it for £900 a month?

Another downside, sound's like it only has one bathroom, not even a wc downstairs Am very determined to make sure that I can have a bath with candles and smellies and the boys don't have to disturb me by coming in to use the loo, we must have at least two toilets!

Yes I looked!!

Ring him!!!

LOL, but did you just glance, or look

Am really trying not to ring DH! LOL Will go and get on with the washing, I need space between me and The Kitchen!

Yes it is great!!

Nope, need time to save up for the moving costs/deposits/first month's rent/our moving costs etc. etc.

Did you see The Kitchen?! <drools>

Nat, that house is gorgeous!! Is there no way you can move sooner?

Just a quicky...

OMG! Downsides, it's right next to rail line, not a problem for me (as long as it's all fenced off properly!) grew up right next to train station, soon get used to train noise.

Wow!! That kitchen-come-Grand Canyon

I should really stop looking, it will be long gone before we're ready to move

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thurs 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- Sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Moosy - Monday 27 July at 4.23am, 7lb 9oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz
IDOB - Friday 31st July 9pm, 7lb 2oz
Bump - Tuesday 4th August 1am, 7lb 4oz

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 37 weeks, 3 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 28 weeks, 12 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 28 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 17 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 38 week appointment, 9 July
IDOB- 28 week apt 9th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July 5 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 9 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 8 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

Morning all, just had a read back through the thread and it has taken ages so of course I can't remember most of it now.

LBOT - not long to go now, how exciting. I'm sure you are more ready than you think but agree you should get all those little last minute jobs done then lie back and relax. I'm already counting down the days until I finish (8 weeks, 4 days to go), not because I can't cope with work at all just because it is such a lovely summer and I am sick of being in the office.

Nat - sorry your neighbor is being a bit odd. She does sound jealous. No advice sorry - I think you just have to ignore it and try not to let her upset you.

Kayz - glad the christening went well and your cake looked fab. Glad you got the washer sorted.

Sorry - really can't remember anything else but Hi everyone and I hope you all had a nice weekend <IDOB worries whether her brain will ever get back up to speed >.

Had a lovely long weekend away on the boat. It was really quiet and relaxing - sometimes we went an hour without seeing another boat - the weather was gorgeous and it was great for DP and I to just chill out together for a few days.

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 37 weeks, 3 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 28 weeks, 12 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 28 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 17 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 38 week appointment, 9 July
IDOB- 28 week apt 9th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July 5 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 9 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 5 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

Wow - had to go a long way back to find the latest list so I hope this is the most recent one.

Births:
Kay - 12th December - 6:49pm - Dylan George - 10lbs 5ozs
Teuch- - - boy
Pop - 23rd December - twin boys, Hugo & Henry
Nat - 27th December - 8:36pm - Mikey Bradley - 6lb 10.5oz
Gin - 16th Jan- Girl - 7.25am- details tbc
Tink- 19th Jan - Girl - 1.51pm - Bracken Hope Willow - 8lbs 7oz
Astarte - 16th Feb - Girl - 8lb 12oz
Glask - 20th Feb - Girl - 7.47pm - Ruby Marie 4lb (8wks prem)
LardyBump - 21st Feb- Boy - 8lb 12oz
HappyNappies- 27th Feb- Boy - 12.01am 9lb13 Edward James Roy
Playing - 4th March - boy - 5 lb 12 oz - Edward Lewis Stainer
Starshinetiger - 15th March - girl - 7lb 1 oz - Charlotte Carys Rose
GYo - 22nd March 9.55am- girl - 10 lbs 12 oz -
Cosmo - 2nd April - girl - April Victoria - 8.51am - 6lb 9
Gruff - 15th April - boy - 8lb 2 oz - 6.02am Zachary John Graham
Ses - 9th May - boy - 8lb 9oz - 10.17am Owen Edward
MINM- .......
Diege - 13th June, boy, 9lb 8ozs Jacob Llewellyn

Weeks list:
LBOT - 36 weeks, 4 left to go BOY! (24th July)
KookyKid - 28 weeks, 12 weeks to go (2nd Sept) BOY!
Idreamofbeanie - 28 weeks (due 27th Sept) GIRL!
Sparklytwinkletoes - 25 weeks (due 6th Oct)
BB - 18 weeks (EDD 30th oct)
Moosy - 17 weeks (EDD 6th Dec)

Girls = 8
Boys= 9 (2 more still insitu)
Surprise = 10
Unknowns (yet) = 3

Scan list:
Moosy - 20 week scan 22nd July
STT - 38 week scan 17th Sept

MW apps list:
BB- 17th july MW, Antenatal clinic 15th june
LBOT - 38 week appointment, 9 July
IDOB- 28 week apt 9th July

Mat leave countdown:
LBOT - last day 17 July (I think!) 11 days to go
BB- AGES!!!
IDOB - 4th September, 9 weeks.

Babys Age
Kayz's Dylan - 26 weeks
Tinks Bracken - 21 weeks
Glaskham's Ruby - 16 weeks
Gyo's small giraffe - 10 weeks
Cosmo baby - 8 weeks
Ses's Owen - 5 weeks
Diege's Jacob - 12 days

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thurs 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- Sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Moosy - Monday 27 July at 4.23am, 7lb 9oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz
IDOB - Friday 31st July 9pm, 7lb 2oz

Bugger it!! I have just failed 2 theory tests!!

On a good note my Ipod touch has arrived!!

That's good KAY about the washing machine, esp as its not old at all. Oh and don't worry about the hazard perception thing, it's built up to be far worse than it is (and no-where near as bad as real hazards such as roundabouts IMO )
LBOT, know what you mean about clearing the decks for proper leave. I also made the mistake of doing 'bits' and in fact sent a report 3 days before my waters went. Never got those lazy days of watching Sex in the City dvds and going to aqua-natal that I dreamed of! So yes, get it all out of the way/plead illness and get some rest - goodness knows you won't get any after the birth
Off to get bus soon - please let this rain stop! - back later x

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thurs 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- Sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Moosy - Monday 27 July at 4.23am, 7lb 9oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

Hello everyone:

Nat - tough one with your neighbor. I agree with Ses that it sounds as if her life kind of revolves around you and your family or that she's really really bored Think the truth about your friend's argument probably lies somewhere in the middle of what friend says and what neighbor says, but really how much does it really matter to neighbor? It might've been slightly disturbing for the 10 mins, if that, that it went on, but it's not as if she has children that she's worried about hearing the swearing or anything. People argue, it's totally normal. It's really not on for her to be reprimanding you and your children in your own garden! I would probably go around one more time and say something like - I know you told me you weren't upset with us when we last spoke, but you seem to be now. and maybe tell her you don't appreciate her telling your children to shut up, especially when you were doing something harmless that you had done many times before. If she has a problem with you, she needs to tell you. But in the meantime, I'd start the detachment process anyway! After that, just ignore her! Hope it all works out okay.

LOL RE: the syndicate dates - look, guys, I KNOW the 24th is a Friday, I've only been counting down for 8+ months! I had a slight panic yesterday after posting as I had the smallest bit of what looked like some bloody mucus. But think it didn't come from the front IYSWIM - sorry that was way TMI! But then started to think about how I was totally NOT ready!!!! Still have so much to do! It made me realize I totally left going on mat leave too late. I still haven't finished my handover document and need to do some serious clearing out of my desk today! It's not that I can't cope with work physically or mentally, it's just that it could be 'any day now' and I guess I just feel like I need to have nothing pending!

Just paid for that website Nat linked to for practising the Theory test! I might book it soon, I am just a bit worried about the Hazard perception bit of the test.

Well it's fixed now and it cost us just £100. What he said was wrong actually wasn't the problem It's only 18 months old so don't want to get a new one yet!!

I've decided to book a holiday for next year. Then I will have to be able to drive or we won't be able to go!!

Nat - my friend is a driving instructor for the AA and says she prefers people who are nervous for their first few lessons. Hope it goes really well.

Diege - hope physio goes well. I'd be interested to know what they recommend.

GP says the cauterising can sting. First time he wasn't that fussed but last week he was screaming the place down! (Could have been because she was running 20mins late though!) We'll wait and see what happens this morning...!

Hi Diege Good luck with physio, and the shopping!

Kayz, just a thought, if you wanted a new one, have you tried here for prices? We bought our washer/dryer from them, saved us £200 on Currys prices. Washer/dryer was crap, but that wasn't their fault, and they did deliver when they said they would etc.

Right, am going to go and hunt down some breakfast, and sort the kitchen out. Is it wrong to be really fancying fried egg and home made chips? At 9.20 in the morning?

morning

hi nj - sorry to hear about neighbour situation -

i would :-

1) get your friend to go around and partner to apologise for noise etc
2) you could go around and talk to her to clear the air

cant think of any other suggestions

taking back dd1s pink shoes going to go for doodle shoes instead!! not happy with them
my mum is due here @ 9:30am then we are off.

have swimming @ 11am and last school visit @ 2pm

diege - enjoy shopping

kay - hope washing machie gets fixed
ours broke a while ago we bought a new one have a moon one is great

Morning! Throwing it down here, but at least it is cooler!
NAT, agree that neighbour def sounds jealous of the relationship with your friend - sorry, had assumed the 'row' between friend and her dh was the bawling Jeremy Kyle type Very difficult situation; as SES says depends what you want the eventual outcome to be I think that effects how much you want to 'invest' in the whole thing.
KAYZ, just a word of warning about the washing machine. I used to work on the circuit boards in in the local Hotpoint factory and from experience I'd say when there's one fault, there tends to be others that show themselves a few weeks/months later. In other words, you may end up shelling out more in repairs and may be more economical to buy a new one (or maybe a reconditioned one? - often a lot cheaper). Just advice based on what we were told - that washing machines are all designed to slowly break down after 5 years .
SES, how annoying about the time scale for the surveyor - hate it that they just assume you can wait around for them. Good luck at GPs - have heard granulomas are quite common. How does ds take the cauterising?
Have a physio appointment this afternoon regarding the separated tummy muscles, so will be taking J on his first bus trip(s). May pop in to town centre and buy him some new clothes too as his 0-3 are quite snug now!
Hi LB - how are things? Not heard from SORKY for a while - hope you are ok?

Kayz, TBH, I'd be royally pissed off at having to pay just £75 less to fix an older machine than paying the extra and getting a brand spanking new one! But then, I'm shit with money!

Ses, hope Owen's treatment goes well, bless him. Finger's crossed there won't be the need for many more.

Neighbour is just a PITA, her DH has just completely blanked me, think I know the outcome already! It's a shame if she feels the need to do that because AFAIK we, as in DH/me/the kids, haven't done anything - well other than being friend's with someone she obviously doesn't like, which frankly is up to her. Am not going to dwell for long. And am not going to let it stop us having fun in our garden, or in our house. It might only be till October, but we do still have to live here, just hope she doesn't start any snidey comments like the other day (Simon says....) because if she has made it clear she isn't going to talk to us, I won't stand for her saying anything to my kids.

Ah well, another day ahead, have already emptied dryer, put wash that was done over night in the dryer, put new load in the washer, kids all up and ready and fed, DS1 at school, I'm ready, have made all beds and opened the curtains and wiped over bathroom, am about to do the kitchen then I think I can call the day my own. Am a bit nervous, have my first driving lesson tonight in about 3 and a half years.... am going to be desparate for a glass of wine by the time it's over with!

Morning all

Nat - v difficult situation with your neighbour. Sounds like you are the centre of her life! Maybe have a think about the ideal outcome and then what will need to happen to get there. Do you want to go back to how things were or do you just want to clear the air but then keep a bit more distant? Can you accept doing nothing and seeing if things evolve into a better situation?
She sounds like she felt as if she played an important part in your lives and maybe now feels that's not the case - either because of your friend or you moving or both.

Kay - that's rubbish about the washing machine. Hope it's not as bad as first thought.

Bumpy - hope things are ok with you

We're off for our weekly visit to the GP. Not sure if I said but DS has a little granuloma on his belly button that is gradually being cauterised. This will be our third treatment. It is gradually getting smaller so I hope it won't take much longer.

This afternoon I've got a surveyor from the insurance company coming to have a look at where that stolen truck crashed into our fence & wall a few weeks ago. They've said he'll be here between 12 and 5 but I really want to pop into town so I hope he comes earlier rather than later.

No we looked and to get one similar to ours is about £250. It just started leaking everywhere and something is broken. Bloke said it might be cheaper so I am hoping it will be.

blinkin' 'eck Kay! Probably cheaper to get a new one.

Morning,

Nat, not sure what you should do but that would really annoy me! She does sound like she is jealous that you have a new friend.

Our washing machine broke yesterday!! It's going to cost £175 to fix it. I was hoping to go and see Glask next week but I know can't afford to Oh well I can go another time. Bloody washing machines!!

Hope you are all well.

Thanks for the advice, really don't know where to go with it.

When friend and her DH had the row, I was in the kitchen with the back door open (which is actually a 'side' door really) and I didn't hear anything at all. When friend came in she apologised because her DH had raised his voice in the garden and had sworn at her ( they have many more problems than an argument in my garden!), neighbour paints the story a very different way, they were apparently bawling at each other with every other word a swear word. Which ever way it happened, I didn't hear anything, no one else seems to have heard anything, so am thinking neighbour is perhaps laying it on. And you can bet your bottom dollar that as much as she moaned about all the shouting (that I didn't hear) and the swearing (that friend says her DH did once) you can be sure that neighbour would have been listening with a glass to the wall if it meant she'd get to hear every word.

Neighbour is harmless, she wouldn't hurt a fly, which is why I can't work out why she is being like this, and at least if she has problem's with friend, why take that out on us/DS1?

DH thinks she feels threatened, as in neighbour is the one that liked to know what we were up to (in a very annoying but kind of nice way), neighbour knows my mum, which for some reason seems to make her think that she is part of the family etc. She very much likes to be involved, like the other day when we had the valuations being done, I took the estate agents into the back garden, neighbour knows they are estate agents, and as we were walking back into the house neighbour shouts me back out to tell the estate agents that she comes free with the house

Everytime I so much as take a peep outside she is there 'just checking on you' she says. DH was outside at the weekend polishing the car, I had hold of Mikey and went out to talk to DH, within 10 seconds of me going out neighbour is out butting in and being nosy, claiming she's on her way out to the shop, chat's away for 10 minutes after 'just checking on us that we're not planning anything she doesn't know about' then she says "right I'm going back in that sun's getting too strong" I said "thought you were going round the shop?" She gives me a blank look, then the realisation washes over her face and she says "oh I'll go later" so she had no intention of going to the shop, she just literally saw me out there and came for a nose.

She is the sort of person that know's everyone, they'll go on holiday to some god forsaken place and bump into such and such a body who they knew years back because their mum's brother's wife's dad used to live on the other side of Accrington, and she 'knows' everyone in my mum's town, because she once went to Luton years ago, Luton is 20 miles away from where my mum lives, it's like me claiming to know everyone in London because I once went to sodding Gatwick <rolls eyes>

I could moan and moan about silly little things with her for hours, but this what she is doing now just trumps the lot. It's as though she is jealous, in some weird way.

DH says I should leave it, if she's playing silly buggers let her get on with it. I agree, but I hate being made to feel uncomfortable in my own house/garden, but then I refuse to pander to her again.

Grrrrr, sorry everyone, it's all pretty trivial in the grand scheme of things, s'pose I just feel kind of hurt. And yes we are still moving so it won't matter for much longer anyway, but I don't want to leave here with this hanging over us.

Evening all cant stop but wanted to mark for later.

Nat - IMHO, whatever she did for you while you were pregnant, this does not excuse this behaviour now. If truly a friend, then your neighbour would have helped you out when pg out of kindness, no need for any "payback" iykwim. If she has a problem with your friend it is not your problem and it is wrong of her to make it your problem. Also, cannot believe she told you and DS1 to shut up when you're in your own garden !!
Where I live all the gardens back on to each other and I do often think about the noise we are making (in this hot weather especially), but then that's during the day and other people are out in the gardens partying in the evenings - it is all just according to their stage of life. Much better to accept and get on with each other and all enjoy our own fun.
Think you have extended the olive branch and if it makes you feel better, you could go round there again and ask if she has an ongoing problem, but if not, tell her that you don't have an issue with her or your friend and would rather not get caught in the middle of their (her?) issues. Just nicely put, but make it clear that you don't want it to spoil your friendship and that should be the end of it! Just IMHO of course.

Phew NAT sounds very stressful, just what you don't need at the moment . I think if I were you I'd probably just lay low until things seemed calmer, but then I do avoid conflict at all costs, and it's usually better to get these things out in the open. Are you still going to be moving anyway? (one solution!) Maybe your friend could have a word, saying how upset you are and that she realises she's partly responsible by having the row in the garden (I would actually be quite pee'd off about her doing that) - although doesn't sound like they get on great...or maybe dh could do the same? That way they realise you;re upset, but in talking say to dh they may realise how petty they're being. I don;t think I;d let past kindnesses get in the way of being frank, as something obviously needs to be resolved. Sorry, realise I've not been of much help - it is a tough call.
Thanks for sorting out the dates STAR ; I think the cumulative wagon sleep deprivation is starting to show!

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thurs 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- Sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

I've fixed the days on this - I got mine wrong, which is inexcusable, as I know 24th is a Friday as it's my best friend's wedding!

Now off to read Nat's mega-post

Sorry ignore last line! xx

OMG, huge post, DS2 just bloody deleted it

Sound's like the weekend's went well for everyone Kayz christening sound's like it went down a storm, am also a bit at your SIL though. Bit odd to do that.

Tink, can I borrow your girls for a week? I want to go and do some girly shopping, am fed up of shorts and t-shirts!

LBOX, it really isn't long is it? This time next month, he'll be here!! V. exciting

I have a dilema, am going to try and keep it short, it didn't work with the last post so we'll see, but could really do with some un-biased advice.

OK, next door neighbours, lovely, nosy, 60+ years old (so not exactly the sort of people we'd want to be hanging around with on a Saturday night IYKWIM? Really helped us out more than I can explain when I had all the troubles with Mikey's pregnancy (looking after DS1 and 2 etc.) always been friendly, never a cross word although a lot of what she says we take with a pinch of salt, can hear two versions of stories, one from her, one from the other person, and they never quite tally, always hers comes out with her being on top etc. etc. etc.

Friend, has become a very good close friend, but relativly recently, wasn't around when I was pregnant, but I know if we had have been friends then she'd have done exactly the same as neighbour, so if you like loyalty is on parr with neighbour.

Friend had a blazing row with her DH in my front garden (which I didn't like at all, my house, don't shout and scream at each other in the garden type of thing) neighbour had a right go at friend about it, friend gave as good as she got, still cross and upset from argument with her DH.

Neighbour used to come round at least 4 or 5 times a week, think she kind of felt a bit of a mother figure to me, although, as grateful as I am for what she did with the kids, I never treated her like a mother figure, she just likes to play the role if you like. She seemed to think she had something over us because she'd helped us out.

Day after friend and neighbour argued, neighbour completely ignored me as I was coming back from school, so when DH got home that night I went round to see if a) she had ignored me, and b) to sort it out. She claimed there was no problem between DH and I and her, just friend and her, I say no problem, their arguments are up to them, I didn't, don't, want to fall out with her over this.

Skip forward a few days, friend goes on hols, neighbour doesn't know friend went on hols, neighbour pipes up with "did you hear all that noise last night? Thought it was friend starting again" in a really bitchy way so I said "I doubt it, friend is 4000 miles away in the Canaries" neighbour has sly digs at friend for the rest of the time friend is away.

Then yesterday afternoon, DS1 and I playing Simon Says int he garden as you do..... !) I say "Simon says....." neighbour pipes up with "shut up" - telling my child to shut up in his own garden Again, I didn't want to fall out so we came in, shut the door, completely ignored them and played inside - which I wish I hadn't done now.

Today, Friend comes round. Kitchen door is open so neighbour obviously knew friend was home, heard neighbour SLAM their front door, now we heard that over us talking, some music playing (not loudly) and the extractor fan whirring away, so it was bloody hard - obviously meant for us to hear)

Now, if we'd have been in the garden, music blasting, talking loudly etc. then I get it, but am I in the wrong to think fuck 'em, I'm in my house, after paying my mortgage to be in my house, talking to my friend, it is f' all to do with next door.

...but then I feel bad... she did such a lot for us when I was pregnant, do I go around again and pander to her? I refuse to justify who and why I am friend's with someone - anyone, whether neighbour gives me her blessing to be friend's with them or not.

But then I feel bad, again.

If you have got this far well done!! DH home, will probably not get back tonight, but needed to get it out!!

Have a good night everyone! xxx

Friend goes on hols, neighbour doesn't know they were going on hols.

The dates are still a bit funny! LBOT has the Sunday as the 26th and Ses has the Monday as the 28th!! Do you all have fuzzled brains like I do today??!!

I feel like I have been confused all day. Probably from being up most of the night as I couldn't get comfy, too hot, too cold at 1 point from the fan.

hi sparkly - sounds like you have done very well

gruff - my mum is one of those she defrosted our freezer last week

having a realzing aft couldnt believe all the heavy rain and we had thunder and lightning too!!!

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Fri 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thursday 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs 12 noon
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Tues 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Fri 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thursday 23rd July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Tues 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

Thanks GRUFF! Think it was probbaly me who started off the wrong dates, but have taken it as an omen and have changed to the Thursday That's good going on the GF GRUFF - I would probably be quite ruthless with any nighttime feeds now if they happen as ds can obviously last through - you must feel great having a bit more rest!! Enjoy having your mum with you - sounds fab!
SKK, ruthless is good - if you've not thought about it, missed it, looked for it, wish you had it etc in the past 12 months chuck it out Is wish dh was more like your's!
Slept for about 40 mins and wish I hadn;t - anyone else feel really rough after daytime naps?

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Thurs 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Friday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Tuesday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Weds 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

Is that right I think it is, but brain isn't quite awake yet after our afternoon nap!

x posts STT

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Fri 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thursday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Tues 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz
Gruff - Thurs 30th July 8.30 am, 8lbs 5oz

Hi all

Think you might want to check the syndicate Diege Star LBOT as the 24th July is a Friday!! Your dates aren't quite right there.

DIege - GC is not one for his 7am feed either. He tends to take the least at this feed.

Im rather pleased as the last 2 nights GC has slept well: the first night 11.30pm (after dream feed where he did not wake up) to 7.30am and this morning midnight to 6.30am (not that great but dream feed he actually woke up and I think he has tummy trouble as hasn't pooed for ages. Anyhow I was pleased and I am so hoping he keeps it up!<<please please please>>

I had a lovely weekend including evening off where I went to a friends, sat by there swimming pool and drank wine It was lovely to be baby free for once!

My friend was at Wimbledon final yesterday! I didn't spot her on the telly though.

My mum arrived from Scotland last night which is fabulous. She has already done al the ironing and defrosted the freezer, amongst other things. Now she is making me lunch.


Kayz - christening looked great!cake looked fab too.

Ses - glad bbq went well.

Hello there Gyo, Tink, anyone else I have missed!

Hi all!

Nice christening pics Kayz, about SIL, very odd and a bit overbearing if you ask me! Agree you looked very nice, and the DS looked like they had a good time too.

I'm exhausted, we've started work on the bedroom for DS so that we can move him out before the baby arrives. It took us most of Friday to just empty the room though! Then we got the wallpaper stripped on Saturday and by mid Sunday morning, had managed to get all the coving up. I didn't do nearly as much as everyone else, but I did manage to keep DS happy over the weekend, keep the kitchen fairly tidy and organise all the food etc.

Also managed to get rid of some unwanted bits of furniture between yesterday and today via freecycle - although it really annoys me when people don't turn up when they say they would.

DH is getting 'ruthless' (his words) and chucking out some stuff. I think its really brought it all home to him how much crap he's got now that its all jammed in the dining room and I keep saying, "well, if you want to keep it, we need to find somewhere to put it" and we'd need an extension to store it all!!

My vacuum cleaner is away being repaired, I do have a crappy little one that I can use, but its SUCH hard work as its nowhere near as good as my main cleaner. Mine is due back either today or tomorrow so I'm hanging on, hoping it will arrive - in the meantime, the carpets are getting quite desperate Ho Hum.

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Fri 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
Diege - Thursday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27am 7lb 8oz
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
STT - Tues 29th July at 15.00, 7lb 3oz

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Fri 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27amm 7lb 8oz
Diege - Thursday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz
Gruff - Thursday 30th July at 8.30am

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

Star - Fri 23rd July, 9pm, 7lbs 10ozs
tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27amm 7lb 8oz
Diege - Thursday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

tink- sat 25th july 9lbs
LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27amm 7lb 8oz
Diege - Thursday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27amm 7lb 8oz
Diege - Thursday 24th July at 7.14pm 81bs 1oz

Wow that does seem soon LBOT!! Very exciting! Oh and to change topic completely, yes do love my horrors . Saw a good(ish) one at the weekend called 'Hush', and an excellent non-horror 'Harvey Milk'.

Right, need a nap - I am a wimp I know - dh says it's because I am older this time

It is getting very real. Picked up the moses basket we're borrowing from friends this past weekend and it's set up in the bedroom. Got maternity pads for me, newborn nappies for the baby and various other bits and bobs. Baby's bag is all packed and I started mine this morning. Today is my first day off of mat leave (I've got two weeks where I'm going in 3 days a week)...it's so hard to believe that in a matter of a few weeks, we'll have a baby! DH admitted last night that he's finally nervous!

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz
Kayz - Saturday 25 July at 5.27amm 7lb 8oz

EEk, Ses! That's just about when my parents are arriving at Heathrow!!!!

Yay for syndicate LBOT! Does it all seem even closer now we're in July, Barcelona wkend is done and we've got your syndicate?!
I'm excited for you!

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy

LBOT - Sunday 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs 6oz
Ses - Monday 28 July at 9.50am, 8lb 3oz

No, no news on the other guy - DH didn't know him so probably won't be forwarded the info but he did say he talked to him a little bit about it before he got the call - I think it was his second or third baby, so I guess it can happen quickly!

Okay, so what do I need to do about a syndicate? Do I just do my dates and my own guess? I keep having numbers pop inot my head, which I find v. weird!

LBOT - Due 24 July, Boy
Sunday, 26 July at 3.30am, 8lbs, 6oz

Hi LBOT
Glad you both survived the Barcelona weekend without any major happenings! V dramatic for the other guy that got "the call" though! Did you hear the outcome?

You need to get your syndicate started girl!

Hello everyone Hope you all had good weekends!

Kay - Christening pics are fab and your cake looked great. at SIL - bit presumptuous of her!!!

Ses - glad your BBQ went well, was perfect weather for it!

Diege - thanks so much for posting the CD! I will look out for it. And J is a doll! Such a cute face he's making in those pics <aside to Diege> Noticed you liked horror films when looking at your profile - love the first SAW myself, great film! But was totally down hill from there!

Well, made it through DH's Barcelona weekend without any action here, which is very very good! DH said there was another guy on the stag do who's wife was due the 22nd and he got "the call" after he had only been there for an hour! Made us a bit more relaxed though as what are the chances of two guys on the same stag do with the same situation!

DS was having a really good morning and was sleeping soundly in his moses basket. After just 10mins though, the postman knocked at the door, the dogs barked and DS woke up! Nice to have a parcel though. I think it's a book of somesort for DS from SIL.

tink - sorry for DD1 playing up. Routine and reward chart sound good.

Weather dull and grey here too.

Hi TINKS - dd1 sounds very much like my dd3- agree, a structured routine with clear boundaries etc is the way to go, though far easier said than done at times, esp at end of the day I find when only a good shout seems to cut it
Ds screaming, so better get him fed. Sun out again and it's too hot...

morning

i feel happy happy happy

good hopping diege dont u just luv a sale.

dd1 does only have doodle sandals and clarkes white leather sandals, doodle red trainers and pink shoes.
i found staying up till 11pm the hardest bit used to watch endless road wars on virgin1

sorry you are feeling ill kay get well soonx

dd1 is still playing up doesnt listen when you tell her no laughs @ everything is very full on and demands attention all the time

have a naughty cushion inplace, have written up rules,her daily routine and using her reward chart again to make her feel more secure.

dd1 only has 2 weeks of nursery left

have ordered from amazon for her nursery leaving pressies - kippers basket with audio cd has 8 stories and arrggh spider just the book

Morning! Glad BBQ went well SES, and that the babies were well-behaved!
KAYZ, hope you feel better soon and can have your bloods done to try and get to the boittom of why you feel so rotten xx
GYO, re: dream feed I've never had the guts to fully wake up my lot with light on etc, and normnally do it in the (semi) dark though there has been the odd occasion when they've woken up and I've put the light on, and tbh it's not made much of a difference sleep wise (the light thing/being fully awake I mean). Oddly the times I've brought it forward to 10.15 have been when they've slept until 3.30ish - after 11 they seem to wake 2ish - odd! For the 3am feed I use a bottle of formula (too sleepy to bf if that makes sense!)and may start to reduce quantity slowly as J isn;t esp hungry at 7. How does mini GYO take the 7am feed? Must be really hard fully bf on GF - I take my hat off to you! I'm only doing bf for 10.30 and 7pm at the moment - not sure he's getting much but at least it's something.
Nothing really planned today - may give a friend a ring to meet up but other than that just house stuff and an on-line supermarket shop I think. Very dull here (weather and plans)...why did I complain about the heat??!!

Meant to say too, anyone who's email address I have (Sorky, MinM & Glaskham I think), if you got a random email from me about nike shoes, ugg boots and a link to a website, this is a (harmless) virus so just ignore it and delete it. Sorry...

Morning!

Sorry you're feeling ill Kay.
Photos are great. Looks like you had a great day

BBQ went really well. Time went really quickly and the babies were all pretty settled until about 7pm when it was a bit like the domino effect! As soon as one started, they all did!

Today my car is getting a service and MOT. I've found someone that my mum knows who is coming here to do it all. Just hope it's not too expensive...

Morning,

DH is back at work today after a week off. My Dad is still here at the minute so DS1 isn't being too much of a pain.

Meant to be having my blood tests today but I feel really ill! So going to rearrange it.

Hope you are all well.

lhello

Just checking in on the nughtshift

Kayz. Pics of today are great. Your outfit looks really nice on you. V annoying about the extra cake. !

SES hope your BBQ went well today andyou got to see someof the tennis final. Thanks for the info on the cream. Its clotrimazole not daktarin.

Diege; waving at fellow 3am feeder. How is lying down feeding going?

Ok here. Tried another dream feed tonight as I was awake at 11.30. Just doesn't work as she just woke up. Might try fully waking her first GF style.

Done here now byeeeeee

<ducks from STAR's well-aimed rotting tomatoes> Get to bed STAR!! You have a week to get your supplies done!

<Briefly stops in to throw rotten fruit and veg at Diege>
Trying to toss up between need to express (need stores for my day out next Sat) or going to bed - DD been asleep for 1 hour 10 mins and this is normally her longest stretch!
Christening looks lovely Kayz - at your SIL!!

x-post MOOSY! Hello!

Evening! Busy one today with sister over with nieces. Photos look fab KAYZ - I would have been a bit at SIL if I were you with the other cake . It does look like a lovely day though (love your outfit btw )
More shoes for dd1 TINKS ; you are as bad as me...Ordered a few bits from the Boden sale, including some cute trousers for ds - I have to say I am getting into boy's clothes
Hi STAR, good to hear from you . You must be shattered with 2 hourly night feeds . Hopefully it's just a stage?
SES, hope the BBQ went well today - bet you're shattered too!
Pile of ironing for me then bed - putting the bloody ironing board up has been enough for me!
Let's hope we all get some good stretches of sleep tonight - though I can't really complain at one 3am feed a night. Having said that, staying up for 11pm one is what does me in! <runs from all every 2 hours feeders>...

Kayz your cake looks great, the second coat turned out really well! And yours is way better than your SIL's, she didn't even do her own writing

i have been busy this aft making purees did a total of drumroll ........

24 cubes!!

have made - brocolli,cauliflower,carrot,potatoe,pear,apple and peach her menu for the next 2 weeks.
also hoovered,changed beds and tidyed

christening pics look great kay looks like a great day. saw the other cake did wonder who made it that is annoying!!

me and dd1 went to clarks and bought her a pair of high backed pink shoes in sale £12

Christening pics!!

Hello!!

Quick post as I am very tired!! Christening went well and no screaming from DS2. Little bit annoyed as SIL made a bloody cake as she doesn't like fruit cake, which is why I made the cupcakes. But apart from that it was brilliant!!

morning

have a great day kay

Morning all - second morning running, up at 6am after 2 hourly feeds all night... Really need to get DD to learn to fall asleep on her own, rather than needing the boob, but am just too tired to get organised and do it IYKWIM!!

Sorky - if you're lurking, how is Elizabeth Pantley working out for you? Hoping to do my log today, so I can then start trying techniques from tomorrow.

Kayz - cakes look yummy - enjoy Christening today.

Ses - yay for organising Christening, ours is 23rd August, but have yet to get invitations out! I also have problems with wind when I feed DD lying down. Have to admit that at about 8 or 10 weeks, I stopped feeding her lying down, as she was just sicky afterwards due to wind, now I only feed lying down if I'm absolutely exhausted - like this morning, 5.50am feed was lying down, otoh I was pretty sure she wasn't going to go to sleep afterwards - she didn't, so I picked her up and she had a ginormous burp after each side. Can't give any help I'm afraid, except to say that I manage to burp her better and get her resettled in cot when I feed her sitting up, even at night.

Diege - Jacob is gorgeous, but admit he does look hard!!

Glad to see Tink back!!

Bumpy - cross-posted with you the other day. Sorry DD is