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is this totally weird behaviour or what?

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I have a friend who is acting totally bizarrely and I'm at a loss to figure this out. Please give me some idea who's in the right.

We both have children of the same age (3), which is how we met. I now have a second child who is five days old. My friend seems to find her own child's company hard work (aren't they all hard work aged 3?!) and admits that her daughter is easier to handle if there are other children to play with. In light of this, other children are frequently invited for playdates and my daughter is no exception.

My friend works in a job where she manages people. I have often felt (in an armchair psychology kind of way!) that she finds it hard to switch off the need to "control" people, even outside work. Certainly she sends me e-mails in a quite forthright (and frankly, sometimes rude) tone, questioning decisions I am making or asking for explanations or justifications for things which are really none of her concern. I do find this quite irritating but have never felt I could raise it with her because I don't like confrontation and it doesn't seem worth the hassle (I guess I'm wary of how she will react if I confront her). As an example, she recently questioned why my husband is working extra shifts (we need the money). This was not a simple query, it was in terms of "why is he working extra shifts when you say you're tired of being alone with the kids". This question came entirely out of the blue and out of context (via facebook).

My husband was upset about the tone of that particular email and offered to challenge her about her attitude (it was not the first such message) but I asked him not to.

On Tuesday this friend offered to look after my daughter for me on Thursday morning. My daughter has often gone to her house for playdates, but after I agreed (it was, in fact, a very welcome offer in the circumstances of us having a new baby), it transpired that it wasn't going to be a playdate at home, they were going out for the day (quite some distance from home).

In the meantime, we were telephoned by a close family friend who asked whether she could arrange to visit us this week. She has a very busy job and was going away for the weekend so it turned out that Thursday morning was the only time she could make.

In addition, my daughter's health visitor rang to arrange her three year check, also offering a time on Thursday morning.

I contacted my friend yesterday to tell her that my daughter would have to miss out on the outing, but that I hoped they had a nice day.

Following this I received a couple of quite sharp text messages questioning our arrangements. In her final text message she said that she was very irritated that I had cancelled the arrangement.

I am puzzled by this because it was clear from the outset that she was already planning to take her own child on this outing and that my child had been invited to tag along. I had assumed, therefore, that the outing would go ahead in my daughter's absence.

Ironically, she cancelled an arrangement to come and see our newborn baby when it was two days old. She was supposed to arrive around 4pm but simply didn't turn up (which is significant, as we had gone out and we made sure we were home in time for her to visit). We had no idea why she hadn't turned up but she eventually sent a text at 9.30pm that night to say she had become waylaid.

Tonight she is expressing her dissatisfaction via her facebook account. She has updated this three times now saying how bloody annoyed she is. I could be imagining it but I think the comments are directed at me.

I am very confused by her behaviour (and tired - I have a newborn!). I really think she expected me to change my plans so she could take my daughter out with them today, but in the circumstances I wanted my daughter to stay home. I am upset because I feel she feels she can comandeer my daughter to play with her child and that I am not allowed to change any arrangements. I have no idea how to deal with her and feel bullied.

help!
Well done for an assertive but not nasty message
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 11-Jul-09 00:40:13
I have to go against the grain here
This lady is bossy, and anti-social, and unreliable
BUT whilst you needed her you put up with her, whilst you wanted her to do stuff you let her carry on.
Now that you have your new baby, and enough time for FB and MN you obviously don't need her and are asking for advice on how to dump her.
She may be odd, but to be honest in my view you don't come out of this well either. So I think YABU.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Sat 11-Jul-09 00:16:47
Good for you! I'm glad you felt able to speak up for yourself.

Don't let her bully you.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Fri 10-Jul-09 21:32:58
Wow, what a great message. well done for being so assertive.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 09-Jul-09 22:32:34
I did think it would be a private message. I really admire how you've dealt with it. Good for you
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 09-Jul-09 22:18:11
oh I would never do that publicly - it would look awful and really show her up - it was a private message.

I've never been so assertive in my life, despite so-called assertiveness training at work (so at least I knew to use "I feel" rather than the accusative "you make me feel"!!)

She hasn't replied yet.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 09-Jul-09 21:36:20
Wow...well done!!! Did you put that in a private message or on her facebook wall? wink
good news, well done and good luck smile
I think she thinks she is a closer friend to you than you think she is or wish her to be. She is probably realising this, hence her behaviour/reactions.

I would gradually see less of her. When your dcs start school your social network will change anyway so this is just a bit earlier.
Add message | Report | Contact poster By Thu 09-Jul-09 21:16:51
Cheerful

I don't think I am wrapped up in the baby, TBH.

I'm a real "people person" and I spot what's going on in others' lives quite readily.

She is (I think) trying to conceive a second child. I did tread very carefully on telling her I was pregnant (though figured I could hardly hide it). I can't help the fact she hasn't conceived and I don't think there's anything I can do or say to help. I have deliberately avoided showing her the baby's nursery before she was born (she would normally ask to see a newly decorated room and I would normally show her but on this occasion I just allowed her to take the lead and she never asked to see it).

She never talked about my pregnancy and I didn't really mention it in her company unless someone else did. I carried on as normal and even helped with the catering at her DD's birthday party when I was 39 weeks pregnant.

There are lots of things going on in her life (including a stressful job) that I'm well aware of (because she tells me) but she isn't somebody who wants your advice - she wants to offload but doesn't appreciate constructive help so I've learned not to give it unless specifically asked.

Today she sent me a message on facebook to say her DD is sick and not in nursery. I replied briefly to this. She followed it up with a message asking how we are "going to sort out the fact that we have pissed each other off".

After a long sigh I have replied telling her that I still don't really understand why she is makign such an issue of it, reminding her that she didn't show up to see the baby (with no explanation until 4 hours later) and tellign her that, frankly, I feel she intimidated by her and that the tone she uses is not appropriate between friends. I have hinted that I feel she is treating me like somebody she manages at work in the hope she will see this might be true.

I have told her I feel unable to be honest with her because I'm scared of her reactions.

I have told her that, as a mother, I reserve the right to have final say over where my child needs to be (and when). I have said I reserve the right to cancel arrangemtns with adequate notice if this is unavoidable.

I have told her that her text messages are aggressive and that I feel this is not considerate or helpful in the circumstances of us having a new baby.

I have said I value her friendship and want it to continue but that I will not be intimidated by her.

I have done all of this on the back of the support I have received here - thankyou all so much.
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