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AIBU?

to hate my colleagues who've kept their jobs while I've been shafted?

17 replies

fadingaway · 09/06/2008 20:25

my firm has made redundancies today. I've been "lucky" and been shifted sideways, with a 50% cut in salary to boot.

some of my collegues have remained in their posts and AIBU to hate them, just a little bit?

Most of the redundant people had good pay-offs because of their long service. I should be grateful I didn't go, but I can't..........

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ALMummy · 09/06/2008 20:39

No YANBU.

Find another job worthy of you and your skills and then give them the finger.

blueshoes · 09/06/2008 21:06

Fadingaway, sorry that you are going through this. I don't understand - how does being moved sideways require you to take a 50% cut in salary?

sunnydelight · 10/06/2008 02:39

It sounds to me like they are trying to put you in a position where you will resign, thus saving themselves the cost of redundancy. Have you also been with the company a long time? Being offered alternative employment with such a pay cut sounds to me like a constructive dismissal case. Get some legal advice!

ninedragons · 10/06/2008 02:42

What sunnydelight said. Are you in a union?

blueshoes · 10/06/2008 09:08

The company is renegotiating the terms of your employment, which they have no right in law to do so without your consent. Would you be happy with a redundancy payment instead?

I appreciate you are probably a bit shell shocked at the moment.

PembsLass · 10/06/2008 09:21

Hello, you could resign and then sue them for unfair dismissal. You can do that on the grounds that the paycut gave you no alternative other than to resign.

Speak to a solicitor

bran · 10/06/2008 09:25

I've been in the position where I kept my job while others were made redundant and while YANBU to be jealous of them if it's any comfort to you they are probably feeling horribly sad for those made redundant and a bit guilty that they are still in a job.

It does seem odd for you to be forced to take a 50% pay cut, I don't think I've ever heard of that happening before.

poorbuthappy · 10/06/2008 09:41

Post on the employment issues board about the pay cut - flowerybeanbag will help.

sweetkitty · 10/06/2008 09:45

50% pay cut sounds horrendous I really don't think you are being unreasonable.

A few years ago our team got reshuffled, half of the team kept their jobs, half of us about 6 had to fight for 2 remaining jobs. It was a horrible situation to be in, the people who kept their jobs were the "old school" there for an age but completely useless IYSWIM, they were smug gets as well.

I would be looking for a new job asap TBH.

TotalChaos · 10/06/2008 09:51

YABU. Hate the bosses who are shafting you instead.

ElfOnTheTopShelf · 10/06/2008 09:53

when my DH was having employment issues, he was told by a solicitor that you should not resign and then try to claim, you should remain in the job, follow all the routes and raise with a solitictor - apparently harder to do if you "up and leave" the company.

fadingaway · 10/06/2008 09:58

thank you - I am feeling better, although angrier, today!

I will post on employment. I am a solicitor, although not an employment bod. We've been told that as our jobs are redundant the posts we are being offered are new posts for which we have effectively applied and been accepted.

I woudl have thought the bosses would have had this double-checked by their own employment people but I shall get over on the employment thread and ask for help!

And I have been there less than two years, so no redundancy package for me!

And please don;t think I was earning huge sums, I wasn't, I was on less than £25,000.00 to start with.

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madamez · 10/06/2008 10:02

This sounds dodgy as fuck unless the 'new' job is considerably fewer hours per week. Halving someone's wges and presenting it to them as a fait accompli can't be legal.
I had similar stuff done to me years ago and was advised that the employer was on dodgy legal grounds: have they been taken over by another company or something?

TotalChaos · 10/06/2008 10:04

lawyers can be amazingly bad at the practical aspects of employment law....

as I understand it, rather than make someone redundant they are obliged to consider suitable alternative employment - would not have thought that a 50% drop is very suitable!

katebee · 10/06/2008 11:32

This doesn't sound legal if you are a permanent employee of the company.

I would have thought they would have to offer you the alternative of redundancy if they can not offer you a job on your current level of pay.

Are there any lawyers reading this thread who can help?

fadingaway · 10/06/2008 20:25

It's a bugger I know. Have been on the employment thread and flowey and ribena say it is legal.......

The company was acquired in November 2007. During the consultation period we all asked about possible redundancies. "Certainly not" came the reply from on high.

Aaarrgghh

I am job hunting but it is depressing.

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madamez · 10/06/2008 20:39

Can you get your vengeance by shaming them ie sell your anguish to either a proleporn mag like Take A Break or (given that you are a lawyer not an office cleaner or factory worker) the Mail On Sunday or similar?

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