in thinking that this is sick? (WARNING possible triggers)

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Sorry for Daily Mail link

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2465359/The-Scare-Kingdom-Scream-Park-branded-degrading-rape-charity.html

This can't be real? People actually would pay for this and call it entertainment? I can understand if you like horror movies that you might like the idea of paying to be scared but this attraction is taking it one step too far....

Sinful1 Tue 22-Oct-13 03:27:34

Didn't use the safe word though :/

Not really sure you can complain if you can say stop at anytime but choose not to

Worriednamechange Tue 22-Oct-13 03:01:59

I do know someone who went in knowing that it was stuff of a sexually menacing nature.
She's very young and dare I say it, easily led by a crowd and went in after being encouraged and egged on by others. She had to go alone and amongst the things the paper describes, was made to put her fingers on a mans bum hole.
She describes it only as being beyond words and doesn't want to talk about it.

By implying that ape scenarios can be 'harmless fun' belittles to trauma of rape.

Sick puppies is all I have to say

soontobeburns Sun 20-Oct-13 15:29:02

I think It sounds great and I dont agree with the simulated rape, again because surely if you go in, for it you want the experience.

I watched horror movies last night before bed and happened to have "nightmares" last night. I bloody loved them and didn't wanna wake up.

So if I could get a nightmare/horror movie experience, here I would be there.

Im going on a paranormal tour and a murder mystery over Halloween and I cant wait. I love feeling fear.

SpookyRestingFace Sun 20-Oct-13 12:10:22

They've been doing similar in the US for a few years now, article about one guy's experience here.

kali110 Sun 20-Oct-13 11:46:15

Havent got a problem with this at all.
I wouldnt personally go but wouldnt judge anyone who would, my partner would prob love it.
I have mh problems but im not offended by it.
Some of the best horror films are about asylums!

I agree with Birds though, I have die hard horror/gore fan (just like me but In real life I scare too easily) friends who would love this. Just because it would be like being inside a movie. If it was just left to them (and those who read any disclaimers properly) then there probably wouldn't be any problems.

DP and I had wanted to go to that Horror Camp Live (same company AtmosFEAR) a year or 2 ago but changed our minds after reading this part of the terms and conditions:

"During Horror Camp LIVE! you may be forcibly handled, moved, bound, hooded, chained and subjected to simulated torture by our scareactors. You may witness strong offensive verbal language and graphic simulated sexual activity including the use of sex toys, extreme violence and gore, extended displays of imitation bodily fluids, simulated urination and full nudity.

And

Once the experience begins you will not be able to leave the campsite...

I'm not surprised they have moved on to this. I do think they make it pretty clear what you are getting yourself in for though.

DoubleLifeIsALifeHalved Sat 19-Oct-13 01:36:16

I think it's horrific... Mostly because of its low price, accessibility and not sure if people really know what they're signing up for.

I can imagine alot of ways that someone ends up doing this unaware how very like a sexual assault they are acting out. And ends up very upset and damaged.

The shock element seems part of it and that's the riskiest thing about it as far as I'm concerned.

Sorry, finger slipped.

To keep the park unlit.

Thinking about it, I think that it is better to indulge in total make believe, than some of the Murder Mystery's etc that I have attended, based on real life events, even if they were over a hundred years ago.

I have gone to the re-enactment of court hearings and when I have thought about them later, have wondered if the sentencing of desperate people and children, should ever be used as entertainment.

Ok, so what beats this next year in the scariness stakes then? My imagination is running riot as to what they might come up with.

I don't just want to be chased by men with chain saws, I want Pigment with chain saws, preferably all over 12 stone and 6 ft (as follows on from Squeal ), a midget one should also be present.

More from Silent Hill, I think it is under used. It is a shame that chasing people through farm fields has stopped because if injuries.

I like walking through my local country park on the dark ( and when camping) because I can picture the fear when I watch horror, more. I was part of the campaign to keep it

I would agree that the words "sexually explicit" should be put in the description, if it will make everyone happy.

However, if you are into Horror and Cult Horror, especially the type of Films that are on the Horror Channel, you know exactly what to expect.

My consultant visited this park, he also serves in the Forces, I am not going to say much more but he has the build of Ross Kemp, is trained in combat ( and I most definitely would ;) ). So people who are trained in C&R ( i am so is my eldest DD), go regularly.

The problem is that the world and his wife are attending these events and dragging their friends along, if they left us, die hard, Horror/Gore/Cult fans to it, then there would be no pearl clutches to report back, wailing how society is going down the pan and how humanity is going to hell on a hand cart.

In most Cult films, Men and Women are equally tortured/assaulted, if that's not what you are into, that's your business, some if us are. We are still mentally well and have respect for others etc, we just like fantasy, that has a dark side.

This attraction isn't about BDSM, it is old school cult horror.

Farmaggedon is my local one, so I have been going every year, since it opened ( as well as travelling to go to them all), part of the fun, is spotting the Movie references and themes.

If it isn't what you are into, there are plenty of other lesser events, Lantern Parades etc that you can attend.

zippey Sat 19-Oct-13 00:49:29

This looks fantastic! I love horror, but like sky diving or bungee I think I'd be too afraid to do it. Looks like fun though. The trailer had elements of Hellraiser!

Ok, so what beats this next year in the scariness stakes then? My imagination is running riot as to what they might come up with.

SPsTombRaidingWithCliff Fri 18-Oct-13 23:58:31

They willingly go in with a warning of what to expect. If they still go in after that then that's totally up to them.

Horror films influence Halloween attractions. They also want to be as scary as possible to beat competition. Not much more terrifying than that tbh.

There's no sexual assault or rape occurring.

Yes they willingly go in but I don't see how a warning that is sexually explicit and they will be manhandled = tied to a bed with a bag in your head and being shown a sex toy and asked if you want. It in your mouth or fucking arse ?

I truly can't see how people can be aware of what to expect ?
A d to film and stream it to onlookers is horrible

You see, what I don't get is the sexual element combined with the horror Movie set in a mental hospital thing.

I GET how some people are into dom/sub sex slave stuff on private or a club - it's purely a sex thing, but it's not an added attraction you're going to find tucked into the corner by the scariest rides in Alton Towers. It has a SEPARATE place which makes it perfectly acceptable to me.

It's this combining the two things and tagging it onto a relatively mainstream entertainment venue which unnerves me, I think. It's like putting a pole-dancing pole into a mainstream nightclub - just not necessary. If you want pole dancing go to a lap dancing club. If you want a bit of sub/Dom titillation, go and join a private club somewhere designed for it.

SPsTombRaidingWithCliff Fri 18-Oct-13 23:26:17

Cass Its not pretend rape. This is consensual tying up. They willingly go in.

It is nothing like rape.

Nice, SolidGold. Up to your usual tricks of twisting someone's words to suit your own agenda.

Why I feel the need to defend myself I really don't know, but if you'd read my posts properly you will have understood that I know only a few (3 actually) who have visited those places who seem to be of that ilk. I assumed they would have enjoyed it for what it was in its simplest terms without thinking of any deeper issues involved - ie. they saw it as just a bit of a laugh. I did NOT say that therefore EVERYONE who visits is stupid - how can I claim that with a sample of, ooooh - 3?

Ooh, you goady fucker, you! [we need a [frustrated "aargh!"] emoticon, MN! grin

CassCade Fri 18-Oct-13 22:39:45

Don't believe this is real. The place is real, but the story in the Daily Mail, I just don't believe. Who would pay to be "pretend raped??" If you really enjoy S&M / bondage, you're hardly going to go looking for it in a crappy looking farm-themed park with a "Mrs.Dowson's farmyard animal" sign and a garden shed.

I find it more worrying that posters are describing people who simply don't share their opinions as 'thick and immature and Not Proper Feminists.'

SPsTombRaidingWithCliff Fri 18-Oct-13 10:49:42

I've never actually heard of a scare farm. I went to York Dungeon and that scared me enough grin

I wouldn't pick this extra bit. They are told what will happen so they decide whether they want to go through with it.

It's interesting to watch how they react differently to people, fluffyraggies. They do back off if they get signals that someone is about to tip over into another level of fear.

The problem with this 'extra' is that it's one to one - you're removed from your group and the No Touch boundary isn't there.

fluffyraggies Fri 18-Oct-13 10:04:55

italics fail.

fluffyraggies Fri 18-Oct-13 10:03:32

Speaking of reacting violently to the Scarer - DH and i took our teen DD3 plus her best friend to a Dr Fright Nights halloween event last year (it was fab! no physical touching by the scarers, just an assault on the senses grin) but anyway - half way round the zomie invasion attraction DDs BF carate chopped a zombie on the head out of sheer hysteria! She as mortified and apologised. Zombie shuffled away - but kept his zombie composure. I think they must be prep'd in some way for the public's possible occasional extreme reaction.

As for the attraction in question - i'm on the fence.

''They said it was up to visitors whether they entered and they must sign a disclaimer before taking part, stating they know they will be manhandled, it will be sexually explicit and a bag may be put over them.''

^ this seems like fair warning to me. Weather or not an adult ^should want to be scared in this way or not is hard to call.

Preciousbane Fri 18-Oct-13 09:58:36

I find it deeply offensive but also wonder what will happen if someone when they are being partially suffocated has a heart attack or some other serious reaction. Being held down will make adrenalin kick, in what happens if they seriously injure the person playing the attacker if they go in to survival mode. I'm sure disclaimers must be signed but utterly bizarre and awful. Sexual assault should never be used as entertainment.

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