to wish that parents would send their children with water bottles etc

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katydid02 Thu 18-Jul-13 17:23:14

Children are hot and thirsty with this lovely weather and yet parents are sending them to school with no water bottles, no sun hats and without suncream. 2/30 had a sunhat today and only about 10 had water bottles.

bragmatic Mon 22-Jul-13 07:30:34

Being thirsty is no more a sign of dehydration than being hungry is a sign of being starved.

conorsrockers Mon 22-Jul-13 06:50:04

Ummmm .... if you are referring to me trying to be clever kitty, my kids broke up from school 3 weeks ago - it wasn't very sunny then (and they don't go into the midday sun as I pointed out). There's no point putting sun cream on if you're not in the sun blush

katydid02 Sun 21-Jul-13 22:35:34

thanks Parakeet

PrettyKitty1986 Sun 21-Jul-13 22:26:07

Some people's cavalier attitude to sunscreen really surprises me.

I have medium tone skin that tans fairly easily. I sat outside for 20 minutes the other day on my work lunch break (with no sunscreen on) and that night my shoulders and nose were just slightly tender to the touch - that pre-burn stage where an extra 5 minutes would have turned into actual sun burn.

It's not hysterical or overprotective to slap on a little sunscreen before your kids go to school to ensure they are safe. Nor is it clever to say 'Ooh I never/hardly ever use suncream on them, aren't I a bad mummy!!'
Yes you fucking are, to be frank.

parakeet Sun 21-Jul-13 22:02:21

To be fair, Katy's OP did not actually say parents who send their children in without water bottles are irresponsible - although umpteen other people did.

And Emily, to answer your question, my point is that you said that some people were claiming thirst was a marketing ploy. When in fact no one said anything so ridiculous. Even the post you quoted didn't say that.

Feel free to admit you were wrong on that point any time you like... smile

Cremolafoam Sun 21-Jul-13 16:17:40

I agree the snacking is out of control. I have several acquaintances who are unable to walk the length of themselves without half a picnic tucked inside their handbags. Also OJ and other juices are packed with sugars and should count as food in my book.

Emilythornesbff Sun 21-Jul-13 13:04:06

Well I suggest you keep your sensible suggestions to yourself katie grin

katydid02 Sun 21-Jul-13 12:16:26

Catsize, nowhere in my original post did I say that they were irresponsible, I just said I wished they did because we have had days with umpteen children all wanting to go to the water fountain and then missing lesson time after each play as a result. They have all been provided with free water bottles to bring into school so it's not as if parents had to go and buy them.
In the end we just got jugs of water and plastic cups and had a drink waiting for them when they came in from play. Water bottles are much easier as they don't spill all over books.

conorsrockers Sun 21-Jul-13 11:09:38

Drives me nuts - I sit and listen to them moaning about how their kids won't eat a proper meal, while they sit and dish out non-stop snacks. So basically, they are rewarded for not eating the meal they are given blush
How about, give them breakfast and then make them wait till lunch. They'll soon pick up that if they don't eat - they get hungry. They will not die from starvation - similarly they will not die of thirst if they don't have a sippy cup permanently stuck in their hand/mouth.
Just produces tired, confused parents, needy children (and bad teeth).... confused

curlew Sun 21-Jul-13 10:42:41

The marketing people have done the "snacking" thing too. Supermarkets have aisles labelled "Snacking". Very euuuuuuuuuuu.

Interesting that they haven't yet convinced us that it's important to eat before hungry. But it's only a matter of time...........

spidercatcherextraordinaire Sun 21-Jul-13 10:31:14

Oh the snacking thing is ridiculous. I don't understand the women who walk around with packets of dried fruit in their bags.

Why?

Surely 3 meals a day are enough?

Why the need to constantly shove sugar into them?

Emilythornesbff Sun 21-Jul-13 09:25:05

There's a generally poorer provision of water fountains these days apparently.

Catsize Sun 21-Jul-13 09:20:48

This is all news to me. DS too young for school.
We all went to school without these things and now parents are being slammed as irresponsible per OP. I seem to remember there was one of those trickly water fountains at school back in the day.
Perhaps these a now breaches of health and safety or something...

Emilythornesbff Sun 21-Jul-13 09:12:30

Hmm. I do wonder if there's a tendency to over snack our DCs conorsrockers. I'm just getting used to the fact that my previously bf ds doesn't need to eat every couple of hours grin. It's quite liberating.

conorsrockers Sun 21-Jul-13 08:58:57

Well, my kids don't have sunscreen on before they go to school, they have school hats (but I know they don't wear them), and certainly don't have water bottles. However, they are blessed with common sense and go and play in the shade if its too sunny and drink plenty at lunch. It's just something else for people to get their knickers in a twist about. It reminds me of the parents that take a snack box to the sports pitch and offer them something to eat every time they are sent off for a quick drink. The kids are only playing for two hours! Seriously :/
Shoot me.

curlew Sun 21-Jul-13 07:26:37
Emilythornesbff Sun 21-Jul-13 07:11:43

Yes sleepywombat
I've always wondered about the 8 glasses / 2 litres thing. I have never managed that. Maybe i'm missing out.

sleepywombat Sun 21-Jul-13 05:52:11

*dubious? I meant doubtful

sleepywombat Sun 21-Jul-13 05:51:24

I'm in tropical Australia, where 32 degrees is pretty normal.

However, we are used to the heat, buildings are built for it, most classrooms have air con or at least ceiling fans and ALL children have to wear hats outside, even at high school. Children are taught to apply their own sunscreen from nursery age - schools have a big industrial bottle of it & go around putting a blob on the children's hands for them to apply, 15 mins before every playtime (allergic kids bring their own).

UK schools are not built for the heat nor are you used to it! I remember teaching in the summer in the UK & it being pretty horrendous.

The water thing, I'm a little more dubious about. Only because I never drank anything as a child (probably a cup of milk a day) - before the 8 glasses a day/take your bottle trend & I was never dehydrated.

At the kindy where I used to work here, each child had a cup with their name on kept at kindy & would just help themselves to the fountain during breaks etc.

spidercatcherextraordinaire Sun 21-Jul-13 05:12:04

Runningforthebusinheels - Its the same hear with the wellies, I don't understand it.

Emilythornesbff Sun 21-Jul-13 02:53:46

Believing that children would benefit from having access to water so they can quench their thirst, which increases in hot weather is not synonymous with an obsession with dehydration.
I appreciate that it may not be medically necessary, nor desirable to constantly sip water. That does not mean that a water bottle isn't a good idea. It's just something to drink from.

There are of course degrees of dehydration. It's not one single emergency state.
Thirst is simply a symptom of dehydration.
One does not need to be in the Serengeti to suffer dehydration.

Let the little ones have drink.
And pop some sunscreen on when the weather is like it has been in this last couple of weeks.
Easy.
I can't imagine why none would argue with that. confused

runningforthebusinheels Sat 20-Jul-13 23:39:06

I too send dd (reception) in with a hat, water bottle and covered in sun cream. The water bottle seems almost untouched at pick up, I've seen them all out at playtime without their hats/chucking their hats around the playground, and 2 water bottles and 1 hat (all named) have gone missing this term. Not to mention her pe kit which came back with only plimsolls in the bag - no shorts or t shirt.

We were also required to send in wellies and waterproof trousers and jacket to keep at the school, which I bought specially last September ans have never been worn by the looks of them.

Emilythornesbff Sat 20-Jul-13 23:20:40

Yes
Perfectly sure.

What's your point?

parakeet Sat 20-Jul-13 21:10:18

Dear Emily are you really sure you can read? smile

>>"it's not the Serengeti. People here are obsessed with dehydration. It's a marketing ploy to get you to buy water!!"<<

...does not say or even imply that "thirst" is a marketing ploy. It implies that the current obsession with dehydration is a marketing ploy.

MiaowTheCat Sat 20-Jul-13 20:15:09

4- you do adapt what you are doing to your own skin tone

And that would be why mine get suncreamed up in this weather (I don't suncream every day but when sun's forecast I do) - exactly BECAUSE they have my skin tone (poor buggers) and I can burn at the sight of a little sun symbol on the weather forecast.

I've also had the beginnings of heat stroke and collapsed once in this heatwave - I'm taking minimal chances with the kids and working on the assumption they'll cope badly with the heat like I do in this weather.

My mother was one of these "have to enjoy the sun" pillocks - resulted in her constantly forcing me (I've never coped well with the heat) out into the sun in a vest top and shorts and no sun hat and sunscreen on throughout my entire childhood. I've had suspect moles removed (which scared very nastily), have another I need to ask about removal when I get the chance (Dr gave it the all clear last year but it's being so uncomfortable and getting caught on stuff that I'm going to push to have it off) and I spent my childhood getting some quite nasty sunburn fairly periodically. We've had one relative had to have treatment for skin cancer already... and my mum has learnt fuck all from this - still refuses to use suncream on herself and nags me about getting a tan (her skin's like leather and my skin doesn't tan, and the magic power of her nagging will never make it tan) and she's started to nag me about my kids (15 months and 4 months) "needing to get outside lots and get a bit of colour in them."

No thanks - we'll stick to our early morning dog walk and swings in the park session before the entire known universe get out there.

Oh and the water bottles when there are water fountains thing... water bottles in-class mean that you don't lose half the class for nice 10 minute long wanders down the corridor to "get a drink miss" and then have them not drinking at breaktimes because they lose their football/cartwheeling on the school field time waiting to get a drink from the fountain.

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