AIBU to not understand why Ian Brady is such big news?

(49 Posts)
SodaStreamy Wed 26-Jun-13 13:24:57

Why is he in the news constantly?

Surely the best thing to do is ignore the man, he will have access to the tv where he is , so will love he's being talked about on the news.

Why are the broadcasters trying to turn him into some sort of 'infamous villian'

Is it so we remember the first amous british childkillers with awe?

I just don't get it? If the guy wants to go on hunger strike let him and stop giving him more attention

fromparistoberlin Wed 26-Jun-13 13:27:26

i agree

venomous child killing CUNT get him off my TV and I hope he dies soon

ergh

fucking waste of air, waste of space hope he DIES

as you can tell, I have strong negative feeling !!!

SirChenjin Wed 26-Jun-13 13:29:10

Why are any criminals given air time? I guess it counts as newsworthy and in the public interest, but personally I am not in slightest bit interested in what some low life scumbag has to say (unless of course he chose to apologise unreservedly and tell the families where he buried their children, but I suspect that won't be forthcoming)

MrsLyman Wed 26-Jun-13 13:30:26

I do understand the interest to an extent, but I agree that the media really shouldn't give him the attention he wants but really doesn't deserve. I haven't read detailed reports but what I caught on the radio about it earlier made it sound like he was revelling in it.

FannyFifer Wed 26-Jun-13 13:30:53

I am also utterly disgusted by the pretty much glorification of him in the media.

He should not be reported on whatsoever, it's basically giving him a platform to spread his vileness.

phantomnamechanger Wed 26-Jun-13 13:33:35

Well I think the reason this case is happening is basically the same reason why we would intervene to get compulsory treatment to stop an anorexic child starving themselves to death, or an OAP with dementia who was refusing to eat - because we are a civilised society and we care for those who are mentally ill and cannot care for themselves and make sound decisions - regardless of who they are and what they have done.

yes his crimes were horrendous, but if we are going to decide who can and cannot starve themselves to death, where do you draw the line and who would make the decisions?

thebody Wed 26-Jun-13 13:37:40

He is trying to control the manner of his death and that shouldn't be allowed.

He shouldn't be given any air time or be in the newspapers or news. He can appeal that he isn't insane. We don't have to listen to the evil bastard on the news.

MrsLyman Wed 26-Jun-13 13:37:47

But phantomnamechanger, although I agree with your point, the case could happen without the media providing us with so much in-depth coverage of it. I just feel very uncomfortable with the idea that he is thriving on his 'celebrity' (for want of a better word), when he has caused so much pain to so many people.

Any power this creature had disappeared when Winnie Johnson died a brokenhearted mother. Here's hoping he lives for many many many more pain filled years. I don't want to hear any more about him.

AuntieStella Wed 26-Jun-13 13:41:06

I think there is a public interest in how the end of life for prisoners is managed. And I think it is right that the incarcerated, no matter how notorious, have proper access to MH tribunals and all other checks and balances for what treatment they receive.

I do question why the media are reporting to the extent and in the manner which they have closed so to do.

SodaStreamy Wed 26-Jun-13 13:42:31

but phantomnamechanger he is not refusing food without knowledge of what it will lead to. He says he's on a hunger strike , yet eats toast every morning?

Surely it's a protest , a look at me thing, I want to be back in the news

soverylucky Wed 26-Jun-13 13:43:26

What Brady did left a scar on the whole country but particularly on greater Manchester. He only just avoided the death penalty and many see his conviction as a turning point in the justice system in this country. His crimes have haunted me ever since I found out about them and I can't bring myself to watch or read anything about the most horrific of cases. But the man clearly is mentally ill. I don't know what I think tbh - on the one hand I think of him as pure evil and at the same time I wonder if he has any idea about the sheer scale of what he did?

limitedperiodonly Wed 26-Jun-13 13:44:09

Because it is an important issue about what the state can do with prisoners.

He's classified as mentally ill. He wants to change that diagnosis and be transferred to a conventional high security prison.

No matter what you think of him, everyone, including prisoners, has to have the right to challenge medical diagnoses. And society must know what we do with prisoners. Societies that don't are those places in the world where people just disappear.

Maybe you think that's what should happen to Ian Brady. The problem with that is that one day they'll disappear someone you do care about. It's happened to millions of people.

He's using the hearing as a platform for his views, but you can't avoid that. If you don't like hearing about it, don't read it, but you can't say that it shouldn't be reported.

FeckOffCup Wed 26-Jun-13 13:45:13

I don't see why it's so prominent in the media either, why do we have to know that he wants to starve to death and is being force fed? Why can't he just live the rest of his sorry life without media attention and maybe a short news article to let us know when he is dead.

phantomnamechanger Wed 26-Jun-13 13:46:43

I think actually the general public have a very real morbid curiosity about people such as this. There is a NEED to know whether he is mad or bad, if you see what I mean.

What about all the details that emerged in the Bridger case? The Philpotts fire? The Tia Sharpe case? and anything else found distressing - should all that be hushed up too?

I know this is different as we are not now talking about dealing with a recent crime and sentencing, but again, where do you draw the line about what is and what is not in the public interest? He will remain a high profile criminal till he dies. And interestingly on this thread there are already both extremes - those who want him to be allowed to starve himself to death asap and those who wnat him to live many more years in punishment for his crimes.

SodaStreamy Wed 26-Jun-13 13:47:11

someone should just hand him 200 paracetemol and a bottle of water. if he wants to kill himself let him get on with it.

Sorry if that sounds harsh

I agree. He's still making headlines, top news stories, getting the attention he craves.

He should be ignored and/or ridiculed.

Report it in law journals/psychology journals sure, but not on tv news all the bloody time.

limitedperiodonly Wed 26-Jun-13 13:51:56

No soda that doesn't sound harsh, sounds silly because the person who did that would then be tried for murder, wouldn't they?

I can't believe people on this thread would prefer not to be told the full story. Is that really what you want? Because I'm pretty sure that arrangement will suit people who do wrong just fine.

SodaStreamy Wed 26-Jun-13 13:58:28

limitedperidonly would they be done for murder?

Surely if he wants to kill himself, and declares himself sane enough to make that decision, then we should just give him the tools to carry out his sane and self made decision

Well, I turn off the radio, news, whenever I hear the name so I don't know the latest story.

Yes, tell the story, but no to the headlines, putting it first on the Tv news the sensationalism etc. is there really nothing more interesting going on in the world than the thoughts of that twat?

limitedperiodonly Wed 26-Jun-13 14:05:27

Lots of people with terminal illnesses go to court for the right to assisted suicide. No one's got it yet. Anyone who helps someone to die can be tried for murder and probably will.

Also, society has decreed that as punishment for his crimes he will spend the rest of his life in a secure psychiatric hospital. Who is Ian Brady to decide that he doesn't to want to do that? I thought people on this thread were against giving him what he wants.

BegoniaBampot Wed 26-Jun-13 14:19:20

Hope he lives a long miserable life waiting to die which he apparently wants but shut away from attention. best is if he gets passed as sane and sent to prison and still force fed.

LastTangoInDevonshire Wed 26-Jun-13 16:10:18

He is in the news so much because he is challenging his current sentence. He wants to be sent to an ordinary prison instead of being currently incarcerated in a mental hospital (Broadmoor, I think).

I think it's a decision that raises all sorts of important questions that we as a society should be able to think about and should be raised in the open. Far more worthy of news time than certain crime stories which seem to be of merely prurient interest.

Longdistance Wed 26-Jun-13 16:24:43

Oh, i do wish he'd fuck off and die.

The media have given him far too much attention.

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