to think the teacher shouldn't have called DN a bloody stupid twat?

(258 Posts)
wetspringday Sat 18-May-13 22:31:50

DN was working on a compter yesterday and leaned back in his chair (shouldn't have done this) but he knocked over a cup of coffee that went over coursework. The teacher yelled at DN and called him a bloody stupid twat.

DN wasn't bothered and seemed to find it quite funny but I think I'd probably have to say something to the teacher concerned along the lines of it not being acceptable. DN is in Year 10 by the way (15.)

AIBU?

Salmotrutta Sat 18-May-13 23:45:06

I don't want to state my subject area - but any teacher bringing a cup of ^ anything^ into a classroom in my subject would be a massive * twat*.

Salmotrutta Sat 18-May-13 23:45:47

That would be anything and twat!

Loshad Sat 18-May-13 23:47:24

AQA have most definitely not requested all their samples by now [stresses]

IncrediblePhatTheInnkeepersCat Sat 18-May-13 23:48:03

Out of curiosity,Salmo, how long do you get for break and lunch? At my school, break is 20mins and lunch 35. By the time you factor in speaking to children after the lesson and setting up for the next, it doesn't leave enough time for necking a hot drink.

As I said, sixth formers can bring hot drinks in and sometimes year 11 do too.

Salmotrutta Sat 18-May-13 23:55:55

We get 20 minutes coffee break and 1 hour lunch Incredible.

Salmotrutta Sat 18-May-13 23:59:19

But I should also say we have 6 non-contact periods in 30 where we can drink coffee if we wish.

Whilst planning, reporting and doing development work etc.

IncrediblePhatTheInnkeepersCat Sun 19-May-13 00:06:16

We get similar amounts of non-contact time too.

What is the reasoning for your school(s) being anti hot drinks? I can understand h&s for some subjects, but not a blanket ban. I normally drink half my tea during student arrival/final set up, then the other (cold) half after the starter while the students are working, giving them a couple of minutes to get work down before I circulate. I don't walk and drink, so not at risk of spilling it on a student. I'm guessing it's an aesthetic reason?

Arisbottle Sun 19-May-13 00:17:24

I quite often have a cup of coffee in my classroom, I am either in there or my office from 7am until 6pm and other than to go on duty I don't leave. I also not stop working for a moment for those 11 hours- other than me make a coffee.

Arisbottle Sun 19-May-13 00:19:01

I walk and drink, so far I have not killed anyone.

I am assuming that we have drinks at home around our secondary aged children and they survive .

CouthyMow Sun 19-May-13 00:24:48

IncrediblePhat - blush If you were my Y8 teacher and had my class for a 2.5 he lesson, you'd have needed method by the end of it, bollicks to tea or coffee...!

(My top set were utter bastards in Y8, we saw it as the year after settling in, but before buckling down for SATS in Y9 back when they had them. We seriously were bastards. Our German teacher had us for a double lesson that year. He left teaching by the Easter.)

You deserve a fucking medal for teaching 30 12-13yo's for 2.5 hrs without locking one of them in the stationery cupboard...

CouthyMow Sun 19-May-13 00:28:36

OFGS. I HATE Autocorrect. He = hr. method = meths.

deleted203 Sun 19-May-13 00:34:56

I quite often drink coffee in my classroom whilst teaching. I get 15 mins at break - and rarely make it to the staffroom for anything other than about the last 3 mins. Just time to make a fast cup of coffee and head back for another double lesson with it. No one objects - many staff do similar.

Twat round here is considered slightly ruder that twit. Yes, I appreciate it means cunt (which is not a word I would ever use in RL - it is the one complete taboo, linguistically, as far as I am concerned). I probably wouldn't say to a pupil 'stop behaving like a twat' - but if it slipped out I wouldn't expect anyone to complain about it.

I did shout 'You idiot!' loudly at a Y11 boy in the heat of the moment, the other day. He had just pushed a pile of equipment sideways, despite being told not to, and something had fallen on the floor and smashed. And afterwards I found myself thinking, 'Is someone now going to come and tell me I shouldn't have called him an idiot? Even though he is?'

Teachers are human. We get kids shouting at us to 'Fuck off' and I have been called all the names under the sun at times. Yet let anything 'inappropriate' slip out from us whilst under stress - such as saying to a kid, 'You clearly don't give a shit about your exams' and you can find parents immediately complaining about it. Ridiculous, IMO.

DN isn't bothered. Neither is your DB by the sound of it. Why would you want to cause even more stress and grief to a teacher by making a complaint to the school?

Dominodonkey Sun 19-May-13 00:38:20

Agree with raven - I have sworn a bit recently- only to year 11 really. Not at anyone though. Am genuinely ashamed to say I must have sworn a few to many times as one of my lovely year 11 girls came up to me with an essay yesterday and said 'would you mind marking this miss- sort if its a bit shit... ' I didn't tell her off but said that would teach me for being a bad influence. In the case of the boy in the thread if twat did slip out I would probably apologise after if it had come out as a result of shock. The boy should not have been swinging on his chair.
And the couple of holier than thou people mentioning hot drinks. If I have a full day it would be between 8.30 and 1 without a hot drink as break is not long enough to make and drink one.

selsigfach Sun 19-May-13 00:42:08

I'm amazed that so many are taking issue with teachers having tea/coffee in the class room.

Bessie123 Sun 19-May-13 01:21:48

I am amazed that so many of you are unable to go 6 hours without a hot drink - loads of jobs keep you busy and leave no time to make and drink coffee, it's not the end of the world.

I am also shock at some of the appalling grammar and spelling from teachers on this thread. Not all of you, obv, but shouldn't you know, eg the difference between lose and loose, and there and their?

And God, a teenager leaning back in his chair isn't really being a stupid twat. Although a teacher leaving coffee where it can be knocked over coursework clearly is.

GoblinGranny Sun 19-May-13 01:28:23

Teacher shouldn't have coffee in a stupid place. I often have a coffee in class, and I ensure it's always in a safe place.
And no, if that was indeed the language used, then it is unacceptable.

deleted203 Sun 19-May-13 01:29:31

Lots of jobs keep you busy Bessie - but have you ever spent 6 hours projecting your voice to a classroom of 30 teenagers?

You can manage without a cup of coffee - why should you martyr yourself any further, though? Do you think anyone will give you brownie points for doing so? Or care?

GoblinGranny Sun 19-May-13 01:29:46

'I am amazed that so many of you are unable to go 6 hours without a hot drink - loads of jobs keep you busy and leave no time to make and drink coffee, it's not the end of the world. '

Loads of jobs don't have you talking, explaining and communicating most of the time in a dry environment.

GoblinGranny Sun 19-May-13 01:30:41

Xpost!
Oh, and the coffee might have been the teacher's lunch, it often is mine.

Bessie123 Sun 19-May-13 01:32:52

Hmm, I drink water, I guess that would be an option? You could keep it in a bottle, with a lid that does up, so it doesn't spill on paperwork.

deleted203 Sun 19-May-13 01:32:57

grin. And mine, Goblin. I am currently spending practically every lunchtime running revision classes for Y11 - and actually, I don't get paid for lunchtime.

Bessie123 Sun 19-May-13 01:34:40

You don't martyr yourselves by not drinking coffee but you do by not eating lunch?

GoblinGranny Sun 19-May-13 01:34:58

'Those saying coffee is allowed in your classroom...

Where do you work?!

Never been sanctioned in any school I've ever worked in!'

My guess is that you are a scientist, no food or drink in the lab?
I've worked in a lot of primary schools, hot drinks have always been OK but you have to use your common sense.

GoblinGranny Sun 19-May-13 01:36:57

Lunch is trickier to eat whilst working than coffee, no martyrdom, just saying why. I'm usually marking work, who'd find sticky gunk acceptable on their stuff? hmm

deleted203 Sun 19-May-13 01:37:13

Christ Almighty, Bessie! I'm guessing you don't teach? I can't imagine anyone thinking it a good 'option' for teachers to spend the entire day in a classroom, skipping all meals and hot drinks, but sipping from a water bottle to sustain their flagging spirits and morale.

Before going home to tackle 3 hours planning and marking.

And some people wonder why teachers feel unappreciated...

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