...to still be sooooo angry at the UNFAIR way the Government has decided who does and doesn't get Child Benefit!

(321 Posts)
candyandyoga Sat 27-Apr-13 22:09:26

I know it's done and dusted but I'm so fucking annoyed. How can they get away with their bonkers policy that if two people in a relationship earn just under the threshold they keep their CB but if one person earns over the threshold they lose it!?!

morethanpotatoprints Mon 29-Apr-13 22:22:52

dreamingofsun.

I think you are near the mark there, we chose to move to where work was, lived on friends floors, saved for deposit, got a crappy house. We then put all dhs min wage into doing up house and lived off the local farmers and a lot of bartering. I was not a country girl but soon got used to it, we were a bit like The Good Life when we started off. We did this a few times with crappy houses doing them up and making a bit each time.
Some people see this as good luck but it was bloody hard work and good management. Anybody could do it and crashdoll I have lived with Mental illness since age 21

dreamingofsun Mon 29-Apr-13 18:42:14

crashdoll - i think it varies a lot on where you live. My BIL lives in a very cheap area on minimum wage and still manages to run a car and live in 3 bed owner occupied house. you would have absolutely no chance to get anywhere near his standard of living here in the south

crashdoll Mon 29-Apr-13 17:55:02

morethan I maintain it is possible for any family to live on min wage with or without top ups. Its down to the choices you make.

Sorry but I find this very ignorant. Families where there are children with chronic illnesses, special needs tend to financially struggle a lot. Also, many parents are unwell themselves, with mental illness striking in 1 in 4, it's not that statistically low a chance.

ShellyBoobs Sun 28-Apr-13 23:10:08

many seriously ill patients have died because they've had their benefits cuts.

Bullshit.

ihategeorgeosborne Sun 28-Apr-13 23:09:11

Night!

Savannahgirl Sun 28-Apr-13 23:07:41

Me too. Goodnight.

ihategeorgeosborne Sun 28-Apr-13 23:05:02

Note to self, must not switch on the computer tomorrow. Instead I must clean the really minging bathroom and hoover upstairs. {Apologies for completely going off topic emoticon}. I must really think about heading up the wooden steps for Bedfordshire.

Savannahgirl Sun 28-Apr-13 22:58:31

I know - I'm always grumbling at my DC's for having their eyes glued to one screen or another, but when it comes to MN I 'm no better! Very hypocritical of me wink

ihategeorgeosborne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:54:34

You're right Savannah, I remember meeting you before. We are kindred spirits grin I'm always on the CB threads. I think I've been here all day on and off, apart from the couple of hours we went for a family walk this afternoon. Dh says it's not healthy to be on the computer this much!

seesensepeople Sun 28-Apr-13 22:50:06

I agree ssd, extra childcare is needed in the hols for older DC.

But CB isn't paid for childcare, it is/was intended to offset a little of the incidental costs of taking responsibility for sensibly raising future tax payers.

Savannahgirl Sun 28-Apr-13 22:48:06

george I seem to remember we "met" on the last ranty CB thread. We have pretty much the same circumstances and therefore similar feelings on it all. We must be kindred spirits!

ssd Sun 28-Apr-13 22:45:55

so can I ask the posters who say cb isnt needed with children aged 12 and over as they dont need childcare

hello???

how many of you leave a 12 year old in the school holidays 8am-6pm then?

without the gp's/sil etc etc up the road?

I mean alone?

will wait for an answer but know I wont get one

ihategeorgeosborne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:44:18

Definitely not a bad influence seesense. I'm relatively new to mumsnet myself. The cuts to CB drew me here. Your welcome to drop in for wine anytime or a brew if you prefer!. Come on over kitty. The bottle's not quite empty. It is good to have virtual friends smile

We don't have a credible alternative. I too worry about this. I mean, after all, how hard can it be to be a credible alternative to what we have hmm

Savannahgirl Sun 28-Apr-13 22:37:55

george I think I too would regret one too many wine tonight! Have to go and be all sensible at work tomorrow!
Night all smile

YANBU to get so mad about this, I still do not understand how the idiots in the government have pushed through so many totally insane policies. The terrible part of it is how powerless I feel. I have no meaningful method of protest that the government would listen to. I can email, write letters, post here etc etc but it wont do the slightest bit of good, the government don't care, they don't want to hear it. So I get to wait until 2015 to vote for.....who exactly? They are all a bunch of arseholes.
Surely this will all end badly.

seesensepeople Sun 28-Apr-13 22:34:10

Yes, we knew there would be cuts and having lived through the last Tory govermnment I was worried.

There's still time for more austerity measures.

Problem is, we don't have a credible alternative - I worry about this.

seesensepeople Sun 28-Apr-13 22:32:49

That was to Geoerge

seesensepeople Sun 28-Apr-13 22:31:46

Oh, am I a bad unmumsnetty influence?

It's good to have virtual friends...

sweetkitty Sun 28-Apr-13 22:31:02

Seesensepeople - thank you very much no wine in this house I'm afraid ill mooch over to ihategeorgeosbournes and steal a glass from her grin

Not all of MN is as well heated as here, I've been here a fair few years and have seen some truly wonderful support.

Getting back to the erm topic, we all knew there would be cuts, we knew done would be difficult but I never thought they would touch CB nevermind what they have done to disabled people whilst giving the wealthy a tax cut, it's disgusting.

I think we all want the cuts to be overall fair.

ihategeorgeosborne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:29:18

Savanna, have already had too many for a school night. I will feel bad tomorrow, but I have to say, I have had a lovely time on here tonight. It feels strange, people feel like friends (or am I too pissed) grin Haven't got that feeling from MN before now. I feel all loved up [pissed mother emoticon]

ihategeorgeosborne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:25:47

seesense ditto from me. I really know I have nothing to complain about in comparison. You sound lovely BTW x

Savannahgirl Sun 28-Apr-13 22:25:36

Only one wine seesense grin? Methinks winewinewinewine required here!

HappyMummyOfOne Sun 28-Apr-13 22:25:16

Morethan, you have said before you claim WTC, CTC and CB so if its possible to live on just one persons salary of min wage why do you need all those?

Its not about SAHM vs WOHM, the debate was whether CB changes were fair. They are not and one of the few Tory policies I disagree with even though not affected. It should have remained universal, limited to one child or scrapped altogether. Penalising those who earn more is wrong, we want our children to aim high not ensure they earn the minimum and rely on benefits for the rest.

Savannahgirl Sun 28-Apr-13 22:22:01

BTW seesense as pissed off as I am about the whole CB issue I still have my DH so my frustration pales into insignificance when I think about what you have gone through and live with every day.You have my utmost admiration. Stay strong flowers

seesensepeople Sun 28-Apr-13 22:17:18

wine

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