To think that Kirstie Allsopp is completely out of touch? RE Twitter

(93 Posts)
Nokidsnoproblem Tue 09-Apr-13 14:28:47

I just saw this:

M&S worker
"You are completely wrong on this one, Frankie is a great stand up, you're coming across as a stuck up bitch."

Kirsty
"The next person that wants to call me vile, offensive & women bashing names better remove their employer from their profile, I fight mean!!"

M&S worker
"I'm sorry for what I said. I have no problem apologising. Just overreacted"

https://twitter.com/KirstieMAllsopp

This is in regards to Frankee Boyle and Thatcher.

Is it just me or is Allsopp being ridiculous?

WilsonFrickett Tue 09-Apr-13 15:07:44

Being called a bitch isn't a negative comment. It's a nasty name given to a woman to put her in her place.

"You are completely wrong on this one, Frankie is a great stand up, I think you sound stuck up."

Is a negative comment. See the difference?

It would take more than being called "a stuck up bitch" (especially if I were a public figure) to induce me to start issuing those kind of threats of Twitter.

WilsonFrickett Tue 09-Apr-13 15:13:03

That's your choice Pumpkin, doesn't mean KA needs to feel the same way.

<I don't even like KA>

Nokidsnoproblem Tue 09-Apr-13 15:13:21

@Twentytotwo

I don't feel that I am defending their actions. They are clearly very immature and rude.

Unfortunately people are very rude on the internet, particularly to celebrities. I'm guessing Allsopp is not a celebrity who gets a lot of criticism, therefore this was probably very shocking to her. Famous people should realise that anything they say from a platform (such as Twitter) can be commented on by anybody, rude and not-rude people. Sadly not everyone is polite as she experienced yesterday. However this person should not be judged upon this by their employer unless it took place in work hours.

Twentytotwo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:14:10

'Threats'? Some idiot publicly insults someone from an account that has their employer listed??? Have you never read an employment contract? That's misconduct. It brings the company into disrepute.

Booyhoo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:14:26

well she didn't actually threaten anything.

Twentytotwo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:16:31

You are clearly ignorant of the conditions of employment most people agree to. It doesn't matter if you're up the Matterhorn tweeting, if your employer is named on the account it still counts.

LifeofPo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:19:59

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Booyhoo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:20:09

nokids i think you are being very naive, especially in this instance where the person has their employer's name displayed.

i used to work for a national bank and it was stated very clearly in my contract that any behaviours outside of office hours would be reflected on the company. we were even warned against being very drunk out at the weekends incase customers recognised us.

i had a car accident on my way home from work one evening and the other person was a customer and actually came into my work to try and sort it out over the counter! when it was clear neither of us were accepting liability her first threat was to go to my head office and report me. this was all because the only piece of leverage she had was that she knew where i worked.

danceponydance Tue 09-Apr-13 15:22:48

I was up in the night and saw this when it happened, I was half asleep so can't be 100% sure but I remember KA being called a cunt by the M&S employee for disagreeing with Frankie Boyle. That tweet seems to have been deleted, as has the persons reference to working for M&S on his profile. This is not the same as being called a stuck up bitch, which itself is unnecessary and unpleasant.

Nobody deserves to be called a cunt publicly just for having a different opinion and if you are stupid enough to state that you work for a particular employer when you act in this way, you do deserve any repercussions that come your way as a result.

Abuse and criticism are two seperate things OP.

Calling someone a stuck up bitch is abusive and no one should have to tolerate it just because it was written on a computer screen and not said to her face.

M&S would absolutely want to know about that, as would any company. Social networks are extremely powerful. And I doubt that any company would want to align themselves with Frankie Boyle.

LifeofPo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:25:33

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Bowlersarm Tue 09-Apr-13 15:26:54

OP I think you're wrong to assume she doesn't get much criticism and I think you're wrong to assume she would be shocked by it when she gets it. KA strikes me as a strong personality who just won't put up with taking crap lightly. Which is why she said "I fight mean"

WilsonFrickett Tue 09-Apr-13 15:27:00

I'm guessing Allsopp is not a celebrity who gets a lot of criticism, therefore this was probably very shocking to her.

That's just nonsense. She's on Twitter a lot, she holds views and she expresses them ergo she gets shit back because she's a woman. Please stop trying to normalise the anti-women shit that is thrown around the internet purely because it's a woman who speaks.

^^ poster above thinks she was called a cunt as well as a bitch, should she put up with that too?

Hulababy Tue 09-Apr-13 15:27:05

"However this person should not be judged upon this by their employer unless it took place in work hours."

I disagree, not when they have their employer name attached to thir real identity. The easiest way is for the poster to have not attached his employer to his Twitter account; by doing this he has to behave in manner which is appropriate for that employer.

WilsonFrickett Tue 09-Apr-13 15:28:23

Also your thread title suggests she's only complaining because 'she's out of touch' - presumably if she was 'in touch' she would just suck it up?

<again I do not like KA>

That's your choice Pumpkin, doesn't mean KA needs to feel the same way

Never said she did. She clearly doesn't.

danceponydance Tue 09-Apr-13 15:29:56

Having had a quick review of the M&S employees tweets, he does make reference to usign the c word in his apologies so it looks like I remembered it correctly and it has been deleted.

SatsukiKusukabe Tue 09-Apr-13 15:30:47

you shouldn't put your employer in your profile and post bull shit it does reflect badly on your employer. I'm more suprised by how many cops post absolute crap on their facebook etc

SatsukiKusukabe Tue 09-Apr-13 15:32:29

also if a person responds to being called a bitch, how us that bullying confused.poor bullied asshole

beginnings Tue 09-Apr-13 15:35:27

Agreeing with a number of others, what you do outside work hours is an issue for most employers. Depending on what it says in your contract and/or employee handbook, doing something that brings the company into disrepute could be grounds for dismissal. Having your employer's name on Twitter or Facebook or whatever and then saying something less than complimentary is a very very silly thing to do.

Viviennemary Tue 09-Apr-13 15:35:52

My goodness we must all be terrified of Kirstie Allsop reporting us to our employers. She should be sacked for threatening people. Ghastly woman.

danceponydance Tue 09-Apr-13 15:37:48

In relation to your original post OP, you have actually misquoted who said what. Your original quote relating to "stuck up bitch" from the M&S employee was actually from another twitter user and not the M&S employee. The quoted apology was from the M&S employee.

A quick look at KA's twitter feed shows that they are two different people.

Nokidsnoproblem Tue 09-Apr-13 15:38:28

Please don't think that I am defending the M&S worker. I think that what they said to Allsopp was disgusting and I would be very shocked if someone had spoken to me like that. However, it would be naive as someone in the public eye to presume that people won't say those kind of things to you, because obviously they will. Allsopp does not deserve to be spoken to like that, however as a celebrity she should realize that some people are rude and inconsiderate and therefore may choose to speak to her like that.

I feel that she was using her status as a celebrity to threaten revenge on the tweeter. I just do not feel that the punishment fitted the crime in this instance. I doubt that the tweeter would ever have the balls to say this to Allsopp, or anyone's, face. They are probably a pretty normal person off of the internet. If they are consistently rude then I am sure that M&S are aware of this and dealing with it appropriately. It also seems that Allsopp was taking revenge on one tweeter for what many tweeters were saying to her and I just don't feel that this was fair.

I am sure that Allsopp is intelligent enough to come up with a reply to being called a 'bitch' without resorting to threats. I suppose I was just dissappointted with her reply.

LifeofPo Tue 09-Apr-13 15:40:43

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

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