To think that Lady Thatcher was a great feminist icon

(96 Posts)
kitty1976 Mon 08-Apr-13 14:07:26

Sure some people don't like her but she was a great example of what can be achieved with determination in the very male dominated world of politics.

WilsonFrickett Mon 08-Apr-13 14:08:43

That doesn't make her a feminist icon. It just makes her an example of what can be achieved with determination in the very male dominated world of politics.

Alibabaandthe40nappies Mon 08-Apr-13 14:09:24

She was a successful woman in a very male world, but not a feminist icon by any stretch.

twinkbat Mon 08-Apr-13 14:11:44

i do get what you are saying. As a girl growing up with a queen and a female PM i never thought i couldnt do something because I was just a girl IYKWIM. But i dont think a feminist icon in the true sense no.

ParadiseChick Mon 08-Apr-13 14:12:59

Absolutly not.

gordyslovesheep Mon 08-Apr-13 14:13:02

YABU

"I owe nothing to women's lib. The feminists hate me, don't they? And I don't blame them. For I hate feminism. It is poison." - Thatcher

joiemecconue Mon 08-Apr-13 14:13:42

Since when does acting like a man and not in women's best interests make someone a feminist?

AltogetherAndrews Mon 08-Apr-13 14:13:43

Um no. She succeeded in a male dominated world, sure, but led a government which vilified single mothers and trampled on the rights of the vulnerable. Not a feminist bone in her body.

shesariver Mon 08-Apr-13 14:15:19

She hated men and women equally, doesnt exactly make her a feminist.

lastSplash Mon 08-Apr-13 14:15:34

Hah, YABVVU

HoHoHoNoYouDont Mon 08-Apr-13 14:15:39

Just the same with Obama in a way being the first 'African American' president. Clears the way for others to do the same. People will aspire to be as successful in their careers and climb to the top.

timidviper Mon 08-Apr-13 14:17:52

Absolutely not. She achieved what she did by virtue of the fact that she married a multi-millionaire and was able to afford to pay for things. She then claimed that other women should be able to do the same whilst destroying any support for those who weren't married to millionaires.

Spitting Image didn't show her as more of a man than the men in the cabinet for no reason

Well then by that reckoning so were the women who were high up in the Third Reich and who were at the top of the Nazi party and in the camps.

Well then by that reckoning so were the women who were high up in the Third Reich and who were at the top of the Nazi party and in the camps.

LineRunner Mon 08-Apr-13 14:18:54

She was a throughly deluded, damaging and divisive figure. More an icon for the war criminal class than feminists, I think.

YABU. I agree with line.

I do feel uncomfortable with some of the vitriol directed at her, which sometimes is misogynistic. But that doesn't mean I have to admire her as a feminist, it just means that even bad people sometimes get targeted by misogynists just like good people.

YABU.

But AIBU for already being bored stiff with the whole subject of Thatcher only a few hours after the announcement?

<shrugs>

ComposHat Mon 08-Apr-13 14:22:50

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kitty1976 Mon 08-Apr-13 14:23:14

As much as people don't like her, to speak of the Third Reich is frankly lazy and ridiculous. She proved what could be achieved with determination in a very male dominated world and as such should get some respect for that. At least she had beliefs which could not be said of other politicians. Do people dislike Tony Blair as much after he sent our troops to a phoney war?

SueDoku Mon 08-Apr-13 14:23:31

She was a woman who took pleasure in keeping other women down - and the person who engineered the destruction of the heavy industrial base of this country and caused the present housing crisis by selling off council houses. Sign petition here
https://submissions.epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/45966
if you oppose her being given a state funeral.

Or you could join with Mark Thomas and walk along the route singing 'Ding Dong the Witch is Dead'.......

WilsonFrickett Mon 08-Apr-13 14:25:36

Oh don't get me wrong, I hate Blair equally. At least with Thatcher, you always knew what you were getting.

Thing is, having strong beliefs, that's not always a good thing. It can blind you to other, better, ways of doing things. One definition of assertiveness is: as the facts change, I change my mind.

MrsBungle Mon 08-Apr-13 14:25:51

She is not a feminist icon to me, far from it.

joiemecconue Mon 08-Apr-13 14:26:39

In accordance with her own wishes she's not having a state funeral so I don't see the point of that petition!

Viviennemary Mon 08-Apr-13 14:27:20

She certainly wasn't. She married a rich man which made her entry into politics a lot easier in those days.

motherinferior Mon 08-Apr-13 14:27:47

"There is no such thing as Society."

The whole point of being a feminist is that you do believe in society, and that it needs to change.

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