To start a benefits "myth busting" thread so that I can link the thickos of Facebook to it

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

When they start moaning about how people on benefits can afford diamond shoes and other such items.

I'll start.

1. Housing benefit is mostly paid out to WORKING people. So all of this talk of going out and getting a job and buying their own home if they don't like the bedroom tax is a flawed argument.

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

1. ILLEGAL immigrants don't get ANYTHING. They're illegal, you see? The system doesn't know they're here and therefore cannot pay anything out to them, never mind £1 million for a house in Chelsea.

[Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme]

Illegal immigrants don't get paid thousands of pounds of benefits. Because they're here illegally. They're not in the system so how can they be paid anything?

Would also like to link a few thickos to this thread. [bugrin]

[SchroSawMargeryDaw]

YANBU

Bedroom tax is probably going to put HB amounts up as it will force people into private accomodation as there isn't enough smaller social housing to move to.

[YouTheCat]

Indeed. I have been to the council today to pay my rent (in full) but far from being full of the workshy it was packed with little old ladies and people trying to pay in their lunch break.

It's a disgrace.

[NettoSuperstar]

Motability cars are not free, they are paid for with DLA.
They never belong to you either.

[Ilovemydogandmydoglovesme]

Oops, cross post. Great minds think alike!

[SchroSawMargeryDaw]

Oh! And it's really fecking hard to get passed by ATOS (which you need to claim disability benefits) even when you are genuinely very disabled

[SherbetVodka]

YANBU

This article about ten lies we're told about welfare would be worth linking to as well.

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

Your tax does NOT pay for anyone's flatscreens or Nike Air 1000's. Stop feeling like you, personally, subsidise the lives of poor people.

[Dawndonna]

Why just link it to facebook, trust me, there are plenty on here that think all those on benefits of any description are workshy scroungers. I have just been told I'm not doing the government or the taxpayers any favours by looking after the four disabled people in my family and why should I expect state help.
That was on a thread, on here, not ten minutes ago.

[limitedperiodonly]

Excluding EU migrants from entitlement to social housing is going to cost councils, meaning you, more because those eligible will still have to be put up but in more costly private accommodation.

[Tee2072]

DLA is not means tested. You can be working/have nice things and still get DLA.

[ParsingFancy]

Useful mythbuster here: "The Lies We Tell Ourselves"

[SirBoobAlot]

The amount of people claiming benefits they shouldn't be is drastically smaller than the benefits that are not being claimed by people who need them.

[mumofweeboys]

But people from europe can come here unaccompanied and claim tax credits for kids back in home country and they can claim jsa. To me that just seems wrong.

www.hmrc.gov.uk/taxcredits/start/who-qualifies/new-arrivals-intro/family-not-in-UK.htm

[SchroSawMargeryDaw]

Is that not because we can also claim benefits in other EU countries as well? That's not a UK government decision, it's a condition of being part of the EU.

[FancyPuffin]

That when 'young girls' have babies the Bounty pack does not contain the keys a new house

Paraphrasing a million different idiots.

[MarmaladeTwatkins]

But we are part of the EU. That is what happens. It's not just the UK giving migrants an easy wad of cash. If they are working and paying N.I then they are as entitled to it as we are.

[ParsingFancy]

Lots of sick and disabled people are being affected by the cuts.

Not everyone too sick to work gets DLA, which is for specific mobility and personal care needs. (And is actually going to be cut from 20% of people currently receiving it.)

So very many people with chronic, disabling medical problems which prevent them leading a full life or holding down a full-time job are being hit by the benefits cap, the bedroom tax, etc.

[FancyPuffin]

Also you are not just 'given' DLA.

You have to fill in a massive form, provide evidence from medical experts and generally the decision maker will also write for more information from your doctors etc.

It's not like you tick a bloody box and poof money

[limitedperiodonly]

There's a theory that we can get round that and avoid being penalised by the EU if we withdraw entitlement to those benefits from British citizens too shro

I can see that going down well with Duncan-Smith and the rest of them.

[PeneloPeePitstop]

Wouldn't bother. Too many disablist bigots round here.

[FancyPuffin]

Grammar fail

[YouTheCat]

DLA forms are an exercise in destroying your soul, especially if you are filling them in for your kids.

[SchroSawMargeryDaw]

limited Yes, I am sure that would make their day. Hopefully the situation will never get that bad.

I also completely agree about the DLA forms, they are soul destroying and designed to try and trick you (lots of the same question, worded differently).