To think that vegans are being a wee bit contradictory if they buy leather goods?

[lottie63]

Just that really. Or - am I missing something fundamentally different between the two things here?

[NewAtThisMalarky]

Sorry, I wish I'd previewed that - managed to paste in another message from somewhere else. Ignore!

[NewAtThisMalarky]

I have reported it.

[maddening]

Sorry which vegans are you talking about? Specific vegans that you know are buying leather or a general unfounded vegan based on your assumption?

It is v unlikely that someone who has made the ethical choice to be vegan would buy leather.

[Frogman]

I'm not a vegan however I'm not sure that what someone refuses to eat necessarily has anything to do with what they buy to wear or own.

[chickensaladagain]

I've never met a vegan that wears leather????

[CecyHall]

Vegans don't tend to buy leather goods.

That's it really.

[HappyJustToBe]

A "true" Vegan wouldn't.

I'm vegetarian and don't wear leather but have friends that do and consider themselves vegetarian.

It is all about personal choice and labels are largely irrelevant.

[NewAtThisMalarky]

The definition of vegan is someone that doesn't use any animal products - its not just about food.

But I'm sure there are exceptions, as with anything else.

People that don't consume any animal products but haven't found a good alternative to leather shoes, mainly, I would think. Or possibly buy beauty products with some animal ingredients like lanolin perhaps.

[ChairmanWow]

Why do you care?

[Damash12]

Op I get what your saying and yes it's hypocritical. I had a veggie (not vegan) boyfriend once who wouldn't touch a jelly baby because of the gelatine yet had no qualms about wearing a suede coat and leather boots and would argue the toss that the animal had been killed for it's meat initially and the skins would be wasted. What a load of bollocks!

[anotherbrewplease]

Perhaps they think it's better to light a candle than to sit in the dark. Perhaps MYOB. and yes, YABU

[claraschu]

Maybe your post should read: "I don't think you should call yourself a vegan if you just eat a vegan diet". People are vegan for lots of different reasons. Not all vegans are fanatics, and some might not want to kill an animal for a few bites of one meal, but might be glad to use a skin that will last for years.

Some "vegans" just have vegan diets for their own health, not for animal or planet welfare.

Lots of vegans keep their mouths shut because there is so much prejudice against them, and very few people are actually interested. (I know this is off topic slightly.)

[OhDearieDearieMe]

Am I missing something fundamentally fanastic about your OP?

How about some context? Or did you just wake up and decide to plop that bit of wisdom 'out there'?

[Lottashakingoinon]

This thread reminds me of those FB updates that try to whip up hatred by saying are along the lines of Isn't it terrible that British pensioners/babies are all starving and freezing to death whilst illegal immigrants who bite the heads off whippets are being paid £2 million a week to live in penthouse suites in Mayfair Yes it might be if it ever happened!

What I mean is yeah, I guess it would be a tad hypocritical if vegans wore leather...but I have never met a single one who does! I do however have a close vegan frined who can't stand vegetables or hers. I have stopped inviting him to dinner, way too much of a challenge.

Slightly off topic: sorry you reported yourself Malarkey, I enjoyed that!

[NewAtThisMalarky]

Haha, glad someone did! :D

[Frogman]

HappyJusttobe - There are lots of reasons for becoming a vegetarian. I am a vegetarian and have been for 20 years.

I only buy leather shoes and leather handbags and I have a great selection of leather jackets. Would you "consider" me not to be a vegetarian?

As far as I know there is not a name for people who refuse to buy or wear leather items.

[Lottashakingoinon]

I do however have a close vegan frined who can't stand vegetables or hers. I have stopped inviting him to dinner, way too much of a challenge.

I'm sorry I'll write that again:

I do however have a close vegan friend who can't stand vegetables or herbs.

As you were

[NewAtThisMalarky]

You can get non-leather shoes but they don't work for everyone and they are hard to find and expensive.

I haven't found a non-leather shoe that my son can wear for longer than a week. Thankfully he isn't vegan!

[ArseAche]

I don't know of a vegan who wears leather. Most wear vegetarian shoes.

[TroublesomeEx]

Just to add my voice.

Vegans don't buy leather or any animal by products.

If they do, they're not vegan.

Just as if someone eats fish, they're not a vegetarian.

Or what claraschu said.

[OxfordBags]

Vegans don't wear leather. They don't eat honey, hell, they don't even lick envelope flaps or stamps, because those use horse glue. I also know vegans who don't wear wool or silk.

OP, do you know a specific vegan who wears leather or did you just read something about veganism, presume they still wear leather and decided to point this 'fact' out to people without researching further? Because if so, this is a fantastically ignorant and dull post, sorry.

[TheNebulousBoojum]

I've never known a vegan that did, do you?

[whosiwhatsit]

I used to be vegetarian but am now pescatarian. It always amazes me how people then expect me to be morally absolutely perfect - ie they are shocked when I shop at Tesco, buy products containing palm oil, etc. They do those things, of course, but I'm not supposed to somehow.

Maybe there are people out there eating a vegan diet but buying leather (although I haven't met any). But if there are, so what? We all do the best we can according to our beliefs but none of us are perfect. But as Voltaire said, the perfect is the enemy of the good. Just because people aren't perfect doesn't mean they can't try!