to teach dc 112 and not 999?

(36 Posts)
MousyMouse Sun 17-Mar-13 17:55:32

112 is the emergency no in (most) of europe.
it's the number to call in case of the need of an ambulance/fire services/police when camping in france, sunlounging in barcelona or visiting berlin for a hen night.
so aibu?

purplewithred Mon 18-Mar-13 09:46:16

Thank you gooey head - brilliant to have the actual facts from a professional instead of all the silly urban myths!

Lljkk, 111 is the new number in some areas that replaces nhs direct and ooh doctors. It's for non-999 medical issues that aren't suitable for your GP or when your GP is shut. It's only just going live.

lljkk Mon 18-Mar-13 09:29:25

I have never taught DC any of these numbers blush.
I've never called 999 in (or 911 for that matter) in my life, can't quite imagine ever needing to.
I think 111 is the medical care number? It is in the ambulance report (that I am supposed to be swotting up on right now instead of MN, about 1/3 of calls coming thru via 111).
Never heard of 112 before this thread (quick google): okay, I go to Europe about once every 10 yrs. Will try to remember for next time, if they haven't changed system by then.
All these numbers are too confusing to memorise. If I don't have time to look up the right non-urgent number then 999 is probably appropriate.

You can still dial 0 for operator to get put thru, too, whatever country you are in.

Gooeyhead Mon 18-Mar-13 04:45:26

As a person who is currently on nights working my shift in a police control room I can absolutely guarantee that ringing 999 from your mobile will "pinpoint" a location. Neither 999 or 112 will give your "exact" location when phoning from a mobile. If you ring 999 and your phone disconnects your mobile can be traced to an area where the nearest mast is. The only way to find your exact location will be to perform a trace on the phone and this is only done by police forces in the most serious cases such as high risk missing persons!! 112, 911 and 999 will all connect to the operators in the 999 control rooms so best to teach 999 as this is the number that is widely advertised and easier to remember. Oh and of course 101 for non-emergency reports!!

WafflyVersatile Sun 17-Mar-13 23:41:49

everyone should change to 999 it's a much better number than 112 or 911. angry

I'm sure my friend who used to answer 999 calls said they could not pinpoint your position if you phoned from a mobile closer than to a few streets radius.

Lilka Sun 17-Mar-13 23:11:40

Obviously 911 would never work on a UK landline telephone or a CDMA mobile either

Lilka Sun 17-Mar-13 23:11:10

I think a mobile phone using GSM might well redirect 911 to 999 in the UK actually. I think one of the hidden features of these phones (since 911 and 112 were standardised as emergency numbers) is that they will recognise and redirect if you dial the wrong emergency number. If 112 works in the US on such a phone, I would not be at all surprised if these phones also redirect 911 in the UK.

If anyone seriously doubts this and has such a mobile phone, you could always try 911 and see what happens. My phone is definitely gsm and I don't dare because the operator would be upset with me, apology notwithstanding

apostropheuse Sun 17-Mar-13 23:03:05

Whatever you teach him make sure he knows only to call in a REAL emergency, and not to play around with the number.

My four year old grandson recently called 999, had a chat and put the phone down. We got a phone call back from a call handler asking if there was in fact an emergency. We of course read hi the riot act and went to great lengths explaining why he wasn't to do that. We thought we'd got through to him.

A couple of weeks later we were visited by two police officers as he had done the same thing again, but this time hadn't put the phone back down so they couldn't phone to check that all was ok.

He has been given another talk about using it appropriately, but I have now had to remove all the phones from the bedrooms just in case he does it again.

For what it's worth, he was taught 999 by nursery. There's not been any mention of any other number from him.

Fakebook Sun 17-Mar-13 22:25:45

Teach him both, they're not long numbers are they.

CestTout Sun 17-Mar-13 22:24:44

After googling it seems that mobile phones have a setting that if someone dials 911 it will automatically putt it through to 999/112. Also agree that the UK should have a big push with 112.

CestTout Sun 17-Mar-13 22:21:05

I was also told that about 911 a few weeks back at a St John training session!

NannyR Sun 17-Mar-13 22:15:23

Someone needs to inform the St Johns Ambulance that they are giving out dud information with regards to using 911 in the UK. We were told that 999, 911 and 112 all connect to exactly the same service, obviously to use 999/112 but if someone called 911 by mistake because it was the first number that came into their head it would connect.
That's quite dangerous mis information to be giving out if it's incorrect.

Sommink Sun 17-Mar-13 21:47:51

I taught my daughter 112 first and then 999, 112 is more accurate at finding location and is apparently answered quicker.

It is also more useful if you are dialing from an internal phone where you have to dial 9 first for an outside line...I have known many receptionists forget to dial the extra 9 then wonder why they can't get through hehe!

Lilka Sun 17-Mar-13 21:27:40

Also-

As long as your phone is using GSM (not CDMA), 112 will redirect to 911/000 in the US, Canada and Australia (it does in other countries as well). Not that you should neglect to learn 911/000 because you may end up in a situation where you don't have a GSM mobile on you and you need emergency services!

Overall, 80 countries have 112 as a primary or secondary emergency number, even if it only works from mobiles. It's extremely useful to know therefore. It's the standard GSM emergency number.

To be honest, everyone should know it. We need a public 112 drive for the UK

NannyR It's not recognised in the UK. Whoever is peddling that myth is awful, it really does not connect.

My husband spends his time trying to convince people that 999 (or 112) are the only numbers to dial here. 911 will not connect, it's not a manned number.

loubielou31 Sun 17-Mar-13 20:41:53

Because 112 will work all across Europe and 999 won't I would think 112 much more useful to know.

kayty Sun 17-Mar-13 20:38:26

More reasons to use 112 over 999:

It is preprogrammed into your sim card to prioritise your call if the network is busy

If you don't have reception for your provider (e.g. Virgin/ Orange etc) it will automatically search for and use other providers

It bypasses security functions such as pin numbers

It can be dialled from a pay as you go phone that has no credit

Some smart phones will allow you to dial 112 without a sim card

(999 may manage some of these functions but not all)

NannyR Sun 17-Mar-13 19:56:57

We were told on a recent first aid course that 911 does work in the uk, along with 999 and 112. Due to the popularity of US tv shows 911 is the first number that springs to mind for some people.

Tanith Sun 17-Mar-13 19:45:27

We were told on a recent first aid course that we should use 112 in preference to 999 for the reasons that Katy has given.

BoundandRebound Sun 17-Mar-13 19:26:02

She'll be very confused at school if you do

Why not teach both

Kayty Err, 999 works with mobile locators too if needed IME.

Teach 112 AND 999. But for the love of all things crunchy please make sure your children know 911 doesn't work in the UK.

Cheers American TV.

aldiwhore Sun 17-Mar-13 19:19:54

Sirzy I read that as "Unless you spend a lot on time travelling..." I was very impressed.

kayty Sun 17-Mar-13 19:19:10

Everyone should use 112 in the UK now rather than 999

112 calls can be pinpointed on GPS so the emergency services know where you are calling from on a mobile (very useful when on a country lane in the middle of nowhere)

999 is on the old analogue system so they only know where you are if you are calling from a landline

(I learnt this on Thursday at my first aid update training - although I much prefer the catchy 999 this swings it for me)

Sirzy Sun 17-Mar-13 18:09:03

Unless you spend a lot of time travelling I would stick with 999 as that is much easier for a child to remember.

You can still tell them their are other numbers and mention 112 then - that's what I do when teaching young children.

pinkyredrose Sun 17-Mar-13 18:04:55

myhead grin

myheadwillexplode Sun 17-Mar-13 18:03:21

Really I never knew the UK was in Europe!

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