to be fucked off that stroes still feel the need to define toys by gender?

(405 Posts)
GretaGip Wed 14-Nov-12 22:02:14

I've been wandering around all day looking for inspiration. hmm

And it seems that within toy sales it's imperatiove to be prosciptive. sad

Surely one of the major retailers could realise that cupcakes and butterflies for grils and transport and dinosaurs for boys is just ouutdated and break free from the molud and then just sit back and wait for hoards of satisfued MNers to boost their sales.

AIBsimplistic?

Sigh.

YoullScreamAboutItOneDay Wed 14-Nov-12 23:33:15

Do Alisvo- when people mistake my DD2 for a boy (18 months) they tell me she is strong, and brave. They never tell me that when they realise she is a girl. They tell me she is cute and sweet.

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 14-Nov-12 23:33:15

I do think all the new "girly" Lego,mechano,footballs,play Mobil and so on are ridiculous,having given it some thought.

MakeItALarge Wed 14-Nov-12 23:33:31

Strict gender lines?

Really???

I admit I dont watch much childrens tv so dont see the advertising but my dd and ds play with the same toys. Tonight theyve both played hot wheels. Just buy your children the toys they want!

YoullScreamAboutItOneDay Wed 14-Nov-12 23:34:19

Right, really off to bed now. I have a thread on feminism called something like gender stereotyping moan of the day. Anyone interested in resurrecting it feel free and will see you soon smile

HoolioHallio Wed 14-Nov-12 23:36:07

Makeitalarge - Well done - I think you also deserve a snotty A+ from FromEsme for your comprehension wink

GretaGip Wed 14-Nov-12 23:36:16

I will have a nosey in three, YoullScream, thanks for the handholding.

wink

GretaGip Wed 14-Nov-12 23:36:38

there, not three.

Obvis.

hmm

GretaGip Wed 14-Nov-12 23:38:20

<<grabs Illgetmycoat's pigtials and drags>>

BlameItOnTheBogey Wed 14-Nov-12 23:38:34

OP I am with you. It's totally rubbish. Today I bought my children a happy meal (I know, I know it's my own fault) and they asked me if I wanted to girls' or the boys' happy meal. WTF? Turns out that the toys are different to reflect the fact that 'girls like pink' or something...

Alisvolatpropiis Wed 14-Nov-12 23:38:40

YoullScream that's shocking! I am so going to do it.

I generally refer to young children as cute,sweet or lovely. unless they're none of those things in which case I say nothing

I suppose I never gave it much thought previously,my parents let me do things I liked and never uttered the words "that's for boys" or "you should like this because you're a girl".

FromEsme Wed 14-Nov-12 23:41:12

You know, Hoolio , it's all very well to make these kind of comments that you think it's ridiculous that people worry about that sort of thing, but it really makes me wonder if you ever think about these issues at all. Fair enough if you don't, but I've never quite seen the point of being so scathing of people who do.

I am not crazy about seeing the girls in my class give up sport as they get older because they aren't encouraged into it. Or women growing up doing all the housework because that's what their toys socialise them to do from an early age.

amarylisnightandday Wed 14-Nov-12 23:45:42

Dd1 loves everything pink - there is now even bloody pink princess Lego in our house. Sigh sigh.

But....her best friend is a boy - they play trains and ride their bikes together but mostly just run around pretending to run away from monsters - that is when thru arnt in the pool which is their favourite past time. Pink crap wasn't what I wanted at all but I have gained perspective watching dd1 grow up in to a brilliant, string child grin

FromEsme Wed 14-Nov-12 23:49:31

Those string children are pretty scary though...

Lego - multicoloured - in the boys section - astronauts, police officers, scientists, miners, pilots. Heroes. Role models?

Pink lego - hairdressers, cupcakes, beauty salons.

Playmobile - Mulitcoloured - in the boys section - Vets, rangers, knights, doctors, racing drivers.

Playmobile - pink. Fairies, princesses and unicorns.

Aspirational huh? Pink shit lego and playmobile has not and is not coming near our house if I can help it. Gah!

And some of you think this fucking pick shite is OK. FFS!

pink shite obviously

BTW if either DS or DD want to become a beauty therapist or hairdresser brilliant. But I DO NOT want DD thinking that is all she can be because she is a girl.

porridgewithalmondmilk Thu 15-Nov-12 00:06:39

I intend this question very genuinely as I have enjoyed reading the discussion.

I was a very 'girly' little girl, in some ways and as an adult my tastes do still lean towards what is traditionally considered feminine: I like pastel colours, to wear and in my home, I enjoy cooking and baking and sewing and as a little girl my two main hobbies were ballet and horse-riding (along with reading smile)

I'm afraid I don't much care for 'pink stinks' because of this. If there is more than one way to be a girl, surely a girl can choose, if she wishes, to like pink, sparkles and butterflies.

I do wink

MakeItALarge Thu 15-Nov-12 00:15:14

I dont think all the pink shite is ok, but I take that little intrest in marketing I honestly had never noticed girls and boys sections, just toys arranged into groups. I has a ds and dd very close together and they have always shared toys.

What confuses me is why people are so dismissive of pink? Its a colour, there is lots of them! My ds wears a pink jumper, most of my male friends wear pink shirts or ties.

FromEsme Thu 15-Nov-12 00:22:24

I don't think anyone's actually dismissive of pink. They're dismissive of the culture that surrounds it. I live with 3 other women, all of their rooms festooned in pink cupcake princess stuff. All educated and in their 20s. I find it a bit odd, I've never walked into the room of a man in his 20s who has transformers and ghostbusters stuff everywhere.

Fakebook Thu 15-Nov-12 00:28:45

I'm pretty sure the reason that A majority of girls like pinky butterflies and a majority of boys like cars and dinosaurs. is because they have been told that is what they should like.

I disagree with that. I have a dd (pfb) and I never told her what to like. She has cars, dinosaurs and a bob the builder soft toy along with her girly play sets. She doesn't like dolls so doesn't have any.

I was never told what to like, and I had mostly remote control cars because they were more fun than dolls.

MissPricklePants Thu 15-Nov-12 00:32:16

The problem is not the colour pink, the problem is limiting so called 'girls' toys to only be pink. I mean the pink lego is awful! I hate gender stereotyping and dd has a mixture of toys. She loves her dolls and equally loves her dinosaur collection. What irritates me is the limitations this may put on some girls, I am all for breaking down the stereotypes and encouraging girls (and boys too) to play with what they want. Oh and to read what they want too instead of the stories for girls/ stories for boys I saw lurking in the bookshop recently. Even supermarkets (Morrissons!) have a girls section and a boys section. The layout of the Entertainer annoys me with the sparkly pink floor with floor to ceiling height stacked with lurid pink boxes full of dolls/fluffy creatures.

Fakebook Thu 15-Nov-12 00:34:12

But what the hell is wrong with that? You have a men's section and a women's section for toiletries and clothes and even shoes. So what's the problem if they do it with children? Why is this even an issue?

FromEsme Thu 15-Nov-12 00:34:15

Fakebook maybe you don't tell her what to like, but society sure as hell does.

But why can the pink not be a vet's playset?..the butterflies be on the doctors set? The glitter on the safari ranger steering wheel? The pink stuff is never about exploring, about pushing boundaries, about finding out things. It is funneled into looking pretty. To looking like Jordan. That is why I find so much of what Pinkstinks says terrifying. Hey DS be a firefighter ,a vet, an astronaut. Hey DD...do your hair....

Fakebook Thu 15-Nov-12 00:37:20

Ok so society tells her, but how many of us have been influenced by society and have been deeply affected by it? How does a girl playing with girly toys affect her? It doesn't.

I have an old school friend who used to have a pink bedroom and a dolls house with about 10 barbie dolls. She's a doctor now. Didn't do her any harm did it?

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