To wonder about all the press on Social Services taking children away?

(459 Posts)
goldbracelet Thu 17-May-12 22:24:10

From good families and parents for no good reason. It is media hype or is there truth in it?

Talking with friends recently, some say they are careful about what they say to the GP for fear of what goes down on record. For example, they would think twice before saying something along the lines of, "I'm finding it hard to cope with my young children while sick with flu (or whatever illness)".

Amy social workers out there who could comment? Is it true that 95% of children are never returned to their parents once removed?

Scary. I can't believe this could happen.

MrsDeVere Sat 01-Dec-12 10:17:21

What I think is very very sad and very telling is that this poster was previously fairly reasonable and her denial about the situation was understandable
Scroll forward a very short time and it is obvious what sort of person she has been talking to
How easy it is to indoctrinate a vulnerable person
And does this ranting and threatening EVER get anyone results?
It never works it never improves the situation

Spero Sat 01-Dec-12 13:08:13

I will tell you how hemming gets away with it. Because no one gives a crap about the damage he does. I sent a (hopefully) reasonable and fully supported list of concerns about his activities - the most serious being that he advises parents on the basis of his false and unsubstantiated allegation that the child protection system is both 'corrupt' and 'evil' - to my MP, Nick Clegg and the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards

The first two sent me dismissive one paragraph replies. The latter sent quite a rude letter saying in essence, unless I was complaining about financial impropriety, I could just go away.

Maybe if a child dies after he advises the parents to flee the jurisdiction, there might be an inquiry into his activities or at the very least he might be respectfully requested to stop campaigning in this manner using his status as MP.

Sadly I think it will take some tragedy to stop him.

What on earth his constituents think when they vote for him, I don't know.

MrsDeVere Sat 01-Dec-12 13:53:50

Wasn't he going to sue you?

These families are easy targets for those who want to build a profile.
They will grab any hope offered and they are very easy to drop when they are no longer useful.

We had a woman on here claiming to have been poorly treated by someone in a position of power and he just called her a liar. Denied all knowledge.
Because he could.

bradywasmyfavouriteking Sat 01-Dec-12 15:00:03

He is a cock. And dodges all questions.

I to have email nick clegg, he doesn't give a shit.

To be honest its the fact that JH is allowed to continue as he does and the fact that Nick Clegg turns a blind eye that I would never vote liberal democrats.

I think he is disgusting as is Nick Clegg for allowing him to put children in danger.

Whats JH's mate called? The other one that get mentioned alot with JH.

Spero Sat 01-Dec-12 15:11:24

He wouldn't dare sue me - it's not defamation if it's true.

I would love it if he did as that might be a good way to shine a little light on his activities.

What he did was make a complaint to my professional regulatory body, the same day I announced on a thread that I was making a formal complaint about him. He is a bully. They did not uphold his complaint.

The other prolific one is Ian Joseph - he of the infamous 'golden rule' that you never seek help from a social worker, even if your child tells you they have been sexually abused.

It's as if what these men really want to campaign for is the power of the patriarch to control his family without any state interference, even if that means a child is sexually abused.

bradywasmyfavouriteking Sat 01-Dec-12 15:18:39

The other prolific one is Ian Joseph

Thats him. JH said on here he does not support Ian Joseph and the 'golden rule'.

So I asked him on several threads was he going to ask Ian Joseph to remove his (jh) endorsement from Ians website. Because clearly Ian thinks he does agree and is implying that he does.

JH and his arrogance simply ignored the question over and over.

I can imagine the headline now if he sued. His personal life is a joke, it would be one more think to show how much of a cock he acts.

Spero Sat 01-Dec-12 15:29:15

O yes indeed. I have asked him at least ten times if he will remove Ian Joseph from his website as an affiliated site. He has never, ever condescended to answer the question.

Still, every cloud has a silver lining, at least I got a good laugh when one poster compared him to Nelson Mandela.

FlangelinaBallerina Sat 01-Dec-12 15:33:34

Ah mysecretworld I think the building you're talking about is the Manchester Civil Justice Centre, yes? Big glass one on Bridge Street in town, next to the river. I know it well. There certainly are a lot of family courts in there, and it's a big big building. I can't remember if the family courts are found over 8 floors though. It used to just be 5 or 6 but then I've not been in there for a couple of years. And bear in mind what a big area Greater Manchester is, and it holds overspill from other local courts because eg Oldham, Rochdale etc aren't that big. So it's basically the family court for a few million people. Not that massive when you think about it.

Honestly though, they won't all be doing care cases. A lot are private law cases ie parents arguing between themselves about who the DC will live with and have contact with. Social Services wouldn't usually even be involved, and there'd be no question of removal. I can see how it would look like that, but it's not the case.

bradywasmyfavouriteking Sat 01-Dec-12 15:36:47

Still, every cloud has a silver lining, at least I got a good laugh when one poster compared him to Nelson Mandela.

I can't even fathom how to start that comparison.

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