Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw Sat 17-Mar-12 19:10:18

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon


The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.
George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community
Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a-------. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We’re hoping this doesn’t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won’t bring Trayvon back,
we don’t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

symfem Sun 21-Jul-13 23:50:02

You seem to have the same grasp of irony as Alanis morrisette

Boomba Mon 22-Jul-13 00:14:33

who?

symfem Mon 22-Jul-13 00:27:36

You

ThePowerof3 Mon 22-Jul-13 07:42:25

Only Zimmerman knows whether he would've shot Trayvon if the circumstances had been exactly the same except he was a white boy, no one can prove otherwise but if random MOP's weren't walking around armed then the outcome would've been very different

Ilovemyself Mon 22-Jul-13 19:59:30

Well said Powerof3.

And symfem, it seems that the lynchmob mentality will always be with us. It's a shame the miscarriages of justice sometimes happen ( not that I am saying this case is or isn't ) but as the system is fair and means you are innocent until proven guilty then you should abide by it.

OP - are you complaining about the verdict or the fact that one person shot another. They are two different things.

redtiger1079 Mon 22-Jul-13 20:17:05

Taking into account all of the facts and applying the law, ie, is it possible Zimmerman was acting in self defence, the verdict was clearly the correct one. I find it so tragic and unhelpful that the issue has been so politicised. It has been taken as gospel that the outcome would have been different had Martin been white, when that is pure speculation.

Jurors in my experience take their tasks extremely serious, and it is disgraceful that their careful deliberation of the evidence, which has clearly been filtered by the media, has effectively been slandered in this way.

Ilovemyself Mon 22-Jul-13 20:27:46

Redtiger1079. So so true. So many of these cases are used by someone with a point to prove - be they white, black, or sky blue pink - as it may fit their needs.

creighton Mon 22-Jul-13 21:06:20

Is your experience of juries american experience where juries are loaded with the 'right' kind of juror?

Ilovemyself Mon 22-Jul-13 21:08:02

Cieghton. Aren't al juries loaded at the start?

OldMacEIEIO Mon 22-Jul-13 23:05:17

wow - latest news.
Zimmerman has pulled a family from a burning wreck.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/22/george-zimmerman-rescued-man-from-truck-crash-last-week-police-say/

edam Mon 22-Jul-13 23:22:42

No, he didn't 'pull them from a burning wreck' - check the story, it seems Zimmerman has been identified as someone who helped to pull people out of an overturned car. That's one to chalk up against all the things he's done wrong - ignoring the police dispatcher's instructions to stop following Travon Martin, being arrested for violence against a police officer, being the subject of a restraining order wrt domestic violence, making 46 calls to the police about black men acting 'suspiciously'.

EldritchCleavage Tue 23-Jul-13 11:44:42

Aren't all juries loaded at the start?

In the UK the jury is not generally questioned at all (since contempt laws mean that coverage of the prosecution will have been restricted) and you can't challenge jurors unless there is a specific reason (e.g., oh no, that one's my mother). So there is no means to influence who sits on the jury in the way that US litigants can do, using challenges and questioning.

But jurors are drawn from the Electoral roll, so if any groups are underrepresented on that, they will be underrepresented on juries. The fact that high-profile and sensitive trials go to the Old Bailey meas that juries for those will be drawn from our most diverse population (London).

Ilovemyself Tue 23-Jul-13 19:01:24

But in the UK either the prosecution or defence can ask for a juror to be removed.

babybarrister Tue 23-Jul-13 21:23:43

It is extremely difficult in England Wales to get a juror removed - there is absolutely no automatic 'right to challenge' unlike in. The US

Boomba Thu 25-Jul-13 00:28:52

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