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Children getting changed in front of the opposite sex for PE-age 8 and 9

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Ayerightyouare · 03/08/2010 22:25

I am new to posting,not lurking,and after a fab glass or two of Spar 2 bottles for £7.50 am off and running dear children at their grans for a sleepover,ahem
My children,boy age 8,and girl age 9,expressed extreme anxiety over the "changing for PE arrangements"...ie the girls had to get changed in front of the boys and vice versa,in the same classroom.
I saw the headteacher about this before the end of last term,and, to the point, was told that "Well,Mrs insert name,you are the only parent who has brought this up,I like children to be children,innocent,there is no problem,we don't have the staff to supervise 2 different sex groups,there is no problem,the children are okay with it,and you are welcome in to come and see them change in front of each other"
I told her about some of the,for want of a better word,pornographic things that I had heard children of this age speak about.
I do not agree with her,for the sole reason that my children have told me that they do not like this.And,I will not come in as a stranger and watch children changing when I know my own children's feelings on the matter.I explained that children in the school system are not going to go against their teacher when they know that they have no choice in the matter.
I really felt patronised TBH.
Now,in the last week,I have had an example of "creative writing" left on my kitchen table by a 10 yr old girl.I have lots of my children's friends around,and they often do "arts and crafts" at the kitchen table.
Here is what she wrote:

"My Daughter's name, you are a dick head, you suck dick, eat shit, you fancy name of boy,and have sex withname of other boy every night.
name of other boy has cheesy nipples and you suck them every night.Just to tell you how do you know boys name has cheesy nipples do you suck them, got it, you suck other boys name dick don't you? "
I mean,come on,this is a 10 year old girl.It is not her fault,she is just showing what that age group has been exposed to via the media.Her Mum is very very strict.
When the school term commences,I am making an appt with the headmistress and basically demanding that she allows children to retain their dignity when getting changed.I have spoken to my daughter regarding this piece of creative writing,she has just turned 9,and she is very uncomfortable about getting changed in front of boys considering what she has now been exposed to."Sucking Dicks" indeed. Am I being Unreasonable ?

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RealityKicksArse · 03/08/2010 22:26

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AnyFucker · 03/08/2010 22:31
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Ayerightyouare · 03/08/2010 22:34

Hello,reality Kicks Arse,

I am afraid that this has really happened,I typed it out from the writing on the A4 sheet.If you want to contact me through the system,I have allowed this.I am friggin concerned about this,seriously.May not have been best to let it out after 2 glasses of wine though.

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loopyloops · 03/08/2010 22:36

???

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scottishmummy · 03/08/2010 22:38

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Ayerightyouare · 03/08/2010 22:40

Do you all think that I am making this up?
I am serious,about both issues,and the fact that they correlate.This has been on my mind for days,and i just wanted a reality check,as I am shocked by it.

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AnyFucker · 03/08/2010 22:41

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loopyloops · 03/08/2010 22:42

I think that perhaps you didn't write what you meant very well, and it came across as perhaps inflamatory nonsense. How exactly does the note back up your point?

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nickschick · 03/08/2010 22:42
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Trafficcone · 03/08/2010 22:43

Oh fuxache...

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Vallhala · 03/08/2010 22:43

A tescher invited you to go into the children's changing area and observe them changing?

Really?

My first ever .

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tethersend · 03/08/2010 22:44

It's going to be on my mind for days now, TBH.

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Vallhala · 03/08/2010 22:44

Or even a teAcher!

Regardless...

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scottishmummy · 03/08/2010 22:46

tescher was funnier,you on the spar wine too

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SirBoobAlot · 03/08/2010 22:48

You're over reacting. Its normal for children to get changed in front of each other, and I think its a good thing. I stopped getting changed in front of other children when I started my periods, as did some of the other girls, because I was embarrassed about wearing a sanitary towel and frightened of leaking.

If you're worried about your children, talk to them not the school, to work out what it is they are worried about.

And that is not "pornographic" - it is a ten year old experimenting with words and phrases she has heard. I remember a friend of mine drawing picture of that age of her and a celebrity "having sex" - stood next to each other with a rainbow saying the word SPERM on it going from him to her. Was that pornographic? No, it was normal 10 year old behaviour. They know sex is an adult thing that they shouldn't be doing, and that dick and shit are bad words they shouldn't say. So they get them all into a paragraph as many times as possible.

The fact she has written "cheesy nipples" shows how innocent it is.

Are you one of these parents who is determined to see a paedophile on every corner?

Talk to your children, and to the girls mother, if you're worried. But don't bother the school with your paranoia worries, they have much bigger things they should be focusing on.

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Vallhala · 03/08/2010 22:52

Not on the wine yet, honest ScottishMummy!

If it is true, I'd be far more concerned about the teacher/tescher inviting someone in to watch children change. Now that might be worth mentioning to the Head!

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StormyWeather · 03/08/2010 22:57

Well you can all take the piss at the OP all you like - I'd have been very unhappy if any of my daughters had been expected to changed in front of the boys in the class at 9.

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StormyWeather · 03/08/2010 22:58

*get changed (sorry)

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Ayerightyouare · 03/08/2010 22:59

I am actually fecked off.The head teacher DID invite me to come in to watch the children change-which of course I declined.FFS.I didn't say or spell wrongly "tescher".
Really,no body believes that this is true?
It IS.

Do your children's schools have separate changing arrangments for PE??

It IS all related to the "creative writing"-my 9 yr old daughter is now terrified of getting changed in front of boys.

You think I want her to know about this sort of stuff at this age? No,I don't,but now I have to deal with it.

I asked if anyone thought that I was being unreasonable in having another meeting with the headmistress,telling her what I know,and basically demanding that they have separate changing facilities.

I don't think I am,after listening to my kids.

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