Just fornd out ds had bad dairy intolerence

[charleepeters]

Hi we found out yesterday that ds (8months) had a bad dairy intolerence now im finding it very difficult to find things to give him, hes used to yoghurts and moose's and things its amazing how many things have milk in them, we origionally thought ds just had a lactose intolerence but mow peadiatrician says to cut all milk and dairy out completley so what do i give him except fruit/veg and meat hes been put on special milk which he doesnt like! sorry just stressed i thought he was getting better but seems hes not anyone got any ideas or has anyone got the same thing any help would be much appreciated.

[ionesmum]

Have a look at the Vegan Society and the Vegetarian Society websites for info on dairy-free eating.

Have you asked the paed about goats' milk?

[tatt]

hi it is very difficult. I have to cope with a dairy free diet for one of my family. Have you asked about soya? There are concerns about nut allergies being higher in children who have had soya and about possible feminising effects but short term it would allow you to find other things. Once he's a bit older there are oat and soya milks, you can buy carob (revolting if you've ever tried chocolate but not too bad as carob ginger or carob raisins).

What are his symptoms? After a time his gut may improve and he may be able to have live yoghurt or cheese (processing makes the proteins less of a problem). Vegan websites and health shops are invaluable as is www.lactoseintolerant.co.uk

[tatt]

forgot to say that I'm currently looking for some lactase as for us the problem is a lactose intolerance rather than cows milk protein. You may want to ask your doctor about probiotics and about lactase.

[charleepeters]

Hi thanks for your replys the doc said that he can have goats milk but only ocassionally because if he has it as a substitute for normal milk his body will eventually reject that to .
tatt - his symptoms are wheezy chest, extreme projectile vomiting, he goes to the toilet about 15 times a day (no joke!) hes always had a bad rash round his face he should eventually grow out of it, because i was the same at his age and i did.thanks again x

[tatt]

Would definitely try probiotics then as it sound more like milk protein intolerance than lactose intolerance. Biocare and solgar have both been recommended on mumsnet, solgar being cheaper for babies over 6 months.

Another useful site below and one link from it with a list of foods - but don't rely on the lists without checking as "safe" foods can change

According to a doctor on the first site 90% of kids will grow out of milk protein intolerance by age 2.

66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:NeST30Qrw2YJ:www.foodsmatter.com/Dairy%2520Allergy.htm+wheezy+chest+projectile+vomiting+diarrhoea&hl=en

www.dairyfreeuk.com/forum/products.php

[ruty]

we had similar prob with our ds, he is also 8 months. is it neocate you've been prescribed?our ds hates it but he is getting better. definitely get a probiotic, all that diarrhea weakens the gut.

[bijou]

Different point though might be handy for you re breakfast.

Be careful of breakfast cereals. Milk powder in nearly everything, not to mention nut traces.

Only safe ones I've found are cornflakes, rice krispies and weetabix and then only the "originals", not the super market brands.

Better just to stick to bread and toast with jam or honey. My ds has never had butter (or marg, I don't like it, seems too processed) and not a problem at all.

[charleepeters]

ruty: yes ds is on neocate hes finally drinking it! doesnt seem to impressed though!

[ruty]

well done for getting him to drink it!

[charleepeters]

hes a little piggy he eats and drinks anything, i found him eating a flaming hot pepperoni when i turned my back once and he reached out once and grabbed aload of chicken madras off my mums plate and ate it oh and my mobiles a favorite to!

[Meggymoo]

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[Rkayne]

Another good tip is to look for "kosher" foods in your supermarket or in specialist shops. They will be fairly easy to find if you live somewhere like London or Manchester, more difficult elsewhere in the country. If you let me know where you are I could try to find out for you.

Kosher foods are foods that meet Jewish dietary laws. Not all kosher foods are dairy free, but any that are will be labelled with the word "parve" or "parev" - this means you can be certain the product contains no milk or dairy products of any sort without having to read the label. If you can find someplace that does sell kosher food you will find a whole range of products - including dairy free margarine (the brand is called Tomor - although most supermarkets also sell a brand called Pure that is dairy free), dariy free chocolate (real chocolate, not carob), biscuits & snacks.

Toffuti cheese slices are also very good - sold in most health food shops. As are Provamel soya yogurts - they do a junior range as well with no 'bits'. And when he's a bit older you can try things like rice milk (again, provamel do a variety with added calcium & vit d) if he's not keen on the soy milk. For breakfast cereal, Cheerios is a good one - and they can usually eat them from a pretty young age. Also at 8 months I would recommend some of the Organic baby food fars - Hipp Organic and Cow & Gate Organic do several dairy free varieties - and again no need to read the ingredients because they will say "milk and lactose free" right on the jar.

Hope some of that helps. It is a bit of a pain but once you get used to it it's not that hard.

[Meggymoo]

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[PsychoFlame]

I have three with bad dairy intolerances, so sending much sympathy. I remember when my daughter (DD2 now 9) was first diagnosed. I came out of hospital and went into Tesco and bought EVERYTHING I could find for her that was dairy free (she was 13mths at that point). I spent £80, and that was only stuff for her, no nappies or food for the rest of us...shows the stress really!!! Was much easier when DD3 and DS2 got their diagnosis.

Anyhoo....here is a list of food that I use for them all now.

Jaffa Cakes
Rich Tea fingers - tesco own. (check tho to be sure, I sometimes get the wrong pack)
Provemol desserts (in the free from range in tesco....the Vanilla ones taste of white chocolate)
Provemol yoghurts. (juniour ones are sold in sainsburys.....lump free)
Free from sausages from sainsbury
Free from chicken nuggets from sainsbury
After eight mints are dairy free (not that they are totally suitable for 8mth olds)
Pure spread(marg). Go for the soya one tho, its cheaper.
Most breads are dairy free, but do check first.
Salad cream is dairy free, which is great for mixing with tuna and giving with pitta bread.
Tomato sauce is too.
Heinz baked beans.
Heinz pasta shapes are mostly dairy free to.
((NOTE - HP Baked beans are NOT dairy free!))
Malt loaf should be dairy free, depending on make.


hth

[charleepeters]

Thanks for all your help its cheered me to know im not alone as my day has been crap with a capital C!

[tatt]

have you seen the other post about Pepti Junior? Something you may want to ask your paediatrician about too.

Psychoflame thanks for the comment about HP baked beans, I hadn't thought to check those! We have to have co-op jaffa cakes as they are both milk free and have no nut warning Don't suppose anyone knows of a chocolate bar that is milk free with no nut warning? He won't have carob. We do have after eights though (and wine gums or licquorice allsorts) .

[tatt]

Have just discovered this webpage www.kinnerton.com/nutfree.html

with dairy and nut free chocolate and you can mail order it. God bless Kinnerton!

[pixiefish]

some of these are dairy free

[RachelsAunty]

My son is milk & egg allergic & we use oatly oat milk.
We used to use soya everything, (marg, milk, yoghurt, soya milk for custard, rice pudding, porridge) and then he developed a goitre (swelling of the thyroid gland). This is not well known about and its not well researched in the medical profession, but there is stuff on the net about it. I would recommend that if you use soya then use it in moderation. Traditionally only a little soya is eaten each day.
Oatly also make ice cream, and cream.
Try developing a good relationship with your local friendly health food shop. Mine is a godsend!
See www.oatly.com

[vivie]

Being dairy free isn't too bad once you get organised. I tend to avoid processed foods most of the time and make big batches of things like spag bol, chicken casserole, sheperds pie from scratch and store them in small portions in the freezer. I have a mental list of 'treats' and stock up on them. I find cheap biscuits are usually okay because they contain veg fat but more expensive ones have butter - Co-op own brand digestives, rich tea and fruit shortbreads are fine, McVities are not.
Sainsbury's blue parrot cocktail sausages are fine (and ds1's fave!)
The provamel soya deserts are yummy and the vanilla one is a lot like custard.
I make rice pudding with soya milk - dead easy, follow the recipe on the packet of pudding rice. I freeze it in small pots and ds1 loves it with a big dollop of jam.
The only real problem is that ds1 can't always eat what other kids eat, but he's really good and accepts that he can't have an ice cream or whatever if I say it will make him itchy (he gets hives if he gets milk on his skin). I make sure I keep treats in the change bag so he can always have something. And plain crisps are nearly always easy to get hold of!

[rumplestiltskin]

usually a lurker but felt i had to reply to this thread as dd (just 8 months) would appear to be intolerant to milk but it causes excema not upset stomach. our health food shop man was very helpful and got us some baby goats milk and told me to add flax oil to her food as it is high in omega 3 & 6 which lots of excema people are short of (apparently) don't know if it works yet as we only started on monday but i'll give anything a go as her skin is so dry and she is allergic to all oils and lotions tried so far. gp would not recomend soy milk or products as it is apparently linked with tooth decay and obesity. luckly i am still bf so still getting protein from my milk. she just has veggies and rice, cous cous or noodles for lunch and fruit, fruit and more fruit. she also loves mashed avocado and banana which i sometimes spread on rice cakes and homous on anything. wonder if i can give her goats cheese yet? anybody know?

[Rkayne]

Just wondering about the Jaffa Cakes Psychoflame - the McVities brand definitely have milk in them - do you use a different brand?

Also, I mentioned looking for kosher foods the other day - well check out www.this link

I've never actually ordered from them because I can get kosher foods locally but they're not easily available everywhere in the country. Everything on the site is labelled for vegetarian, nut allergies and "parve" which means non-dairy. Try the Lieber's non-dairy coins if you're looking for real chocolate (not carob!).

[meysey]

there are also nice things you can make at home to keep the calcium levels up when he is a little older, but check with the doctor first about trying nuts...

for breakfast, ground rice pudding made with rice milk and a tablespoon of ground rice and of ground almonds, only takes a minute, throw it all in a pan and boil until thick

there are a lot of good specialist recipe books around these days

[vivie]

rumplestiltskin - at 8 months your dd really needs more protein than what she gets from breast milk, and she needs more iron. This are the main reasons babies should be weaned at 6 months. If you're not veggie she should be eating meat or fish at least once a day, and she should be having plenty of beans and lentils too.
My ds1 has had soya milk since he was a baby and I have never heard about any risk of obesity. In fact because he can't eat lots of the biscuits, cakes, etc that many children do, his diet is really healthy and he is below average weight, (but perfectly healthy). Tooth decay is only a problem if you don't clean their teeth.
Most eczema is NOT related to diet (according to the National Eczema Society only 30% is) so if you are going to restrict your dd's diet you should insist on having skin prick testing to confirm allergies or having medically supervised exclusion trial.