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Allergies and intolerances

So we bought eggs today...

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harverina · 12/07/2014 21:44

To bake cupcakes and do a hidden egg challenge at home. I am terrified but dd's skin prick test showed an improvement to milk and eggs last week.

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trixymalixy · 12/07/2014 21:46

Will they not do a hidden egg challenge in hospital? DD had hers in hospital.

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trixymalixy · 12/07/2014 21:49

Also meant to say thanks for inviting me to that support meeting, unfortunately I couldn't make it as I had a tennis match that night. My iPhone is playing up and meant to reply when I got onto a laptop, but forgot!

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greenbananas · 12/07/2014 22:36

I wish you much luck with this! No wonder you are nervous... hope it all goes really well.

I suppose if you did the challenge in hospital, it wouldn't be 'hidden' in the same way.

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harverina · 12/07/2014 23:07

Thanks guys.

They won't do a hidden challenge but would do a full challenge trixy. So, yeah it wouldn't be hidden in the sane way greenbananas.

My biggest fear is anaphylaxis. I've been told it's unlikely but it terrifies me.

No probs btw trixy - I didn't go either in the end as wasn't week.

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trixymalixy · 12/07/2014 23:14

DD's doing full egg at the end of the month at . They did hidden egg for her a year ago. Are you not seen at Yorkhill too harverina?


I'd be sitting in the hospital car park and doing it.

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greenbananas · 12/07/2014 23:23

Well I'd be pretty worried too but if they say anaphylaxis is "unlikely" and are recommending that you try this at home, I suppose they must be sure that the risk is very, very small.

Do you have epipens (or equivalent jext or emerade)? You know what to do in the case of a reaction, and you know an ambulance would come screamingly fast in the unlikely event that you needed one.

Again, I say good luck.

I hope she likes the cupcakes you bake... My ds passed a peanut challenge last month Smile ~ it took him all day to consume about eight peanuts in small doses, and we were over the moon, but then he said "I'm glad I can eat peanuts, but I don't really like them and I don't want to eat any again". Gah!

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harverina · 12/07/2014 23:55

Trixy we go to rah in Paisley.

Green that's fantastic news! You just be delighted Grin

Consultant and dietician said anaphylactic reaction to baked egg is uncommon. Doesn't stop me beif terrified! We have epipens and piriton. I don't want to use either though Hmm

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harverina · 12/07/2014 23:55

Sorry for the typos Blush

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harverina · 13/07/2014 10:04

I think we will try the very baked egg a go at home and then any other challenges we will do in the hospital car park. I assume if she tolerates the hidden egg then we will move to the next stage.

We were told to do it last year babybarrister but I was too scared. Our consultant understood as she had children with allergies when they were younger. The thing that spurs be on now is the research that it could help dd grow out of the allergy. But it doesn't make me less afraid. Dh is all for doing it at home this time before we progress any further as he thinks dd will be more relaxed. I get that but....well you all understand!!

Allergies have a huge psychological impact don't they. The day that dd took her 2nd reaction changed me forever. Without sounding melodramatic, they have made me far more anxious and a very different parent.

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greenbananas · 13/07/2014 11:52

Yes, I do think allergies make us much more anxious parents generally, and have a huge psychological impact on the whole family.

Yesterday, DS1 (aged nearly 6) went scampering off out of sight down a woodland path wiith his older cousins (aged 10 and 15), and DH started to call him back, until we realised that if he didn't have such severe allergies, we wouldn't think twice about letting him do that - his cousins are pretty responsible, it was a low-risk situation, and we weren't far away with the medicine.

Being a 'normal' parent takes conscious effort when you have a child with allergies.

Let us know how the challenge goes.

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harverina · 13/07/2014 13:42

Will do.

Your right about allergies affecting normal parenting decisions. Dd stayed with her grandparents last night for the first time since she was 1 - I have been so nervous about it but she was so excited! I called every time I knew she would just have eaten Hmm

I go back to work in 3 weeks and finding Childcare again has been difficult as we moved house and had to find a cm closer to home. I find myself not asking the usual questions about play/learning/routine because everything comes back to allergies!

The biggest positive is that dd leads a very normal life and although she is aware of her allergies it doesn't stop her from being a normal and healthy wee girl.

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harverina · 13/07/2014 13:44

While I am on can I ask you guys about dd's skin prick results. Consultant said they had improved - egg 3x3mm, milk 4x3mm, no reaction to kiwi and peanut 3x3mm.

I feel so stupid but I didn't ask what they meant Hmm

Can anyone tell me what they mean in the grand scheme of things?

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greenbananas · 13/07/2014 13:51

Those skin prick results sound good to me. DS1's consultant said that anything under 3mm is pretty much counted as a negative. But I might be misremembering, so don't take my word for it!

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ShineSmile · 13/07/2014 13:51

I hope it all goes well for you.

Just so you know and may make your life easier, warburtons newhouse do a lovely lemon and poppy seed muffin which is all allergen free, minus eggs. So you could use that for the baked challange. Its in all major supermarkets.

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harverina · 13/07/2014 14:46

Ah thanks that's good to know will look for them later at the shops.

Well hopefully the improved tests are a good sign x

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harverina · 13/07/2014 14:46

Ha sorry for the kiss!Blush

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trixymalixy · 13/07/2014 15:45

I wouldn't use shop bought cake. I'd make it so you know exactly how much egg is in it. DD was challenged in hospital with cake containing 1/16th of an egg. It was half a cupcake so I'm guessing they made a mixture with one egg, baked 8 cakes and gave DD half.

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harverina · 13/07/2014 17:43

Trixy we have made 16 mini cupcakes using 1 egg (the recipe said to use 2 eggs). We will give her a small peice on day one and have been told to double it each day until she is eating a full cake.

They taste lovely but didn't rise very well, presumably due to the lack of egg!

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harverina · 13/07/2014 17:43

Trixy how did the challenge work - did you spend the day or go back over several days?

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trixymalixy · 13/07/2014 19:13

The challenge lasted not quite a full day. They first of all put some bits of cake on her arm and covered it with a big plaster then waited 15 mins then rubbed it on her cheek waited 15 mins, then rubbed it on her lips waited 15 mins, she ate a few crumbs waited 15 mins and so on until age had eaten the whole thing. Then we had to wait for 2 hours to make sure there was no delayed reaction. The whole thing would have been stopped if there was a reaction at any point.

It might be safest to do the same over a couple of days at home rather than waiting just 15 mins in between. When DS failed his milk challenge he got very far through the steps until he reacted and when he did it was a massive reaction. Probably with a longer time in between he would have reacted at a smaller amount.

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harverina · 13/07/2014 19:23

Thanks for this info trixy. We are out tonight overnight so will rub the mix on her skin tomorrow when we get home and then give her a small piece on Tuesday morning.

Nervous!!! Hmm

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harverina · 19/07/2014 20:48

It hasn't gone well Hmm

Day 1 dd said she had a sore throat and stuck her tongue out within a few minutes of having a tiny peive of cake. She then said she wanted lunch and said her throat was fine. We wondered if by explaining it to her we had made it into a big issue.

Day 2 she ate the cake with no issue. Said her throat and mouth was fine.

Day 3 ds said she had an itchy tongue and sore throat Hmm she ate immediately after and was her usual bright self. It went away within a minute or two apparantly?

Day 4 was today and we gave her cake with no egg and she said she felt fine.

So no more and I will contact her consultant to see what to do now Sad

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babybarrister · 19/07/2014 21:29

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greenbananas · 20/07/2014 01:40

Oh dear, that sounds very confusing.

She might be fine, doesn't sound like she has had a dangerous reaction - but itchy tongue doesn't sound good (unless she knew she was 'supposed' to have an itchy tongue? - had you talked to her about this? )

As baby barrister says, there is bound to be a psychological overlay.

Hope you get some good advice from her specialist. . And well done for having the courage to do this challenge at home!

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