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Ventouse/ forceps vs csec?

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BeanyIsPregnant Mon 16-Jun-14 13:13:40

Thinking about my last labour with dd, it was all pretty hectic towards the end as they kept losing her heartbeat and spent forever deciding whether to do forceps or a csec.. Eventually I actually had a fully 'natural' birth with no intervention, but the forceps lady was prepping, so obviously imminent.

I was scarily under prepared for the fact that might happen, and had done no research at all into what options I had/ if I had a decision/ what would be best for me.... I'm 34w with dc2 so trying to work out what my options realistically are if it goes tits up again..

Can I request csec instead of forceps/ ventouse?
Should I?
What's the recovery times like for the options? I've got an 18mo and my dp isn't entitled to any paternity leave due to a job change, so realistically once I'm out of hospital in on my own......

If they suggest forceps can I say no? And ask for a csec? Will they just laugh at me? :/

BeanyIsPregnant Mon 16-Jun-14 13:14:57

The idea of forceps/ ventouse are petrifying to me.. I had an episiotomy last time and the pain I had from that for weeks after was actually worse than giving birth..

Janesville Mon 16-Jun-14 13:42:22

I have had both and personally found a c section far less terrifying and painful. The ventouse still fills me with fear 8 years later. A horrifying experience for me.

mrsdicko90 Mon 16-Jun-14 13:47:03

I had forceps with first, I didn't need them for second. I had a second degree rip, but healed fine and felt so much better than first timr x

mrsdicko90 Mon 16-Jun-14 13:47:04

I had forceps with first, I didn't need them for second. I had a second degree rip, but healed fine and felt so much better than first timr x

MyDarlingClementine Mon 16-Jun-14 13:48:04

It depends where you would rather be cut should it come to that, for me, being able to go to loo in peace was a huge factor, I hated after my Vag birth I was crying every time I needed a wee, scared to poo....for a good ten days.

After section there was no issue at all.

I prefered to have a cut where I could see it and air it, rather than down below.

I found my section to be a wonderful experience.

Mrsb999 Mon 16-Jun-14 13:59:06

I always said I would prefer a c section to ventouse/forceps as the thought of too much damage down below filled me with terror. I did end up with an emergency c-section and I know people vary but my recovery was speedy and fantastic. Apart from the driving side of things I pretty much felt back to normal after a week. But I do think I was lucky to bounce back so quickly, even the midwives were shocked!

If I were to have another baby the problems I had in my first labour would probably lead me to be offered another section.

1charlie1 Mon 16-Jun-14 13:59:40

I had a forceps delivery 6 weeks ago, with an episiotomy and 3rd degree tear. Fractured coccyx too. All hideous. First baby. Consultant wanted to do a cs, I preferred option of forceps, I really wanted a vaginal birth, had to push for 3 hours to get DS low enough to extract with forceps. My recovery is going ok, I'm paying privately for a brilliant physio who specialises in women who've had difficult births. If I did have a 2nd baby I have no idea what I'd choose. I've heard there are obs who can use forceps without needing to do an episiotomy, unfortunately mine was not that skilful, although my repair is apparently very good. He made a point of visiting me the next day to say I would be very unlikely to need similar intervention should I have another baby, but I feel traumatised by my experience, and despite the fact that DS is divine, I feel quite sure he will be our only.

Mrsb999 Mon 16-Jun-14 13:59:47

Sorry meant to add that people I know wh

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softlysoftly Mon 16-Jun-14 14:02:25

Marking place as I am interested in this.

Both DDs were natural births though totally different (DD1 3 days, V nearly theatre, DD2 born fast on a pavement!) ad expecting DC3 any day.

I hate the idea of ventouse/forceps mainly for the fear of damage to the baby and would always want to have the chance to opt for a csec. But I don't know how much of that choice is based on logic not fear iyswim?

Flexibilityiskey Mon 16-Jun-14 14:06:24

I am really surprised by the answers on this thread. Just to balance things up a bit, I had a ventouse delivery, with an episiotomy. It was absolutely fine. I was apparently black down below, due to bruising afterwards, but it healed fine, and I didn't have much pain at all. I was back horse riding three weeks post birth. I'd have thought the recovery for a C section would be far worse as they are cutting through muscle etc.

puddock Mon 16-Jun-14 14:08:45

My last labour sounds like yours - NVD in the end, but c-section was considered (fetal distress) and they were hovering with the ventouse as he was born. I felt lucky to have avoided either instrumental or CS delivery.

When you say 'request a CS' do you mean during delivery, at the point at which instrumental delivery is suggested? I would have thought that - depending on baby's position and state - they might not be interchangeable options at that point. But if you decide in advnace that CS is preferable to you than instrumental delivery, you could write something on your birth plan. Something to discuss with your midwife/consultant?

Lones80 Mon 16-Jun-14 14:11:36

I had a forceps delivery and episiotomy with DC1 and although it wasn't pleasant, my recovery took less time than friends who had C Sections. I could drive straight away and it also meant I could have DC2 in a midwife led unit whereas friends going for a VBAC had to use the main hospital.

ChairmanWow Mon 16-Jun-14 14:17:30

I've never had forceps/ventouse but I did have an EMCS last time, and have a couple of close friends who have had forceps. I have to say I'm with most of the others. My CS healed really well. I'm a bit unhappy with the flap of tummy over it but compared to what my friends went through I think I got off pretty lightly. One of them needed corrective surgery and the other says that 3 years on it still just doesn't feel right.

The downside for me was that I don't think I bonded as quickly as I did with DC1, who had been delivered vaginally. It just felt a bit odd to not have pushed her out myself, especially because I'd laboured and the EMCS was a bit of a shock.

Can you discuss it with your midwife? She can tell you more about the risks and benefits of each. Also you could write something up so that you can bring it when you're admitted and have a clear plan with the midwives looking after you.

PandaWatch Mon 16-Jun-14 14:19:07

I was adamant when I was pregnant that I would rather have a CS than forceps because I had read so many stories that terrified me. In the end, I put my faith in the medical team and DS was delivered with forceps (which was very confusing for DH, who I had previously instructed to fight tooth and nail to stop them bringing forceps anywhere near me!). My stitches healed really well and everything went back to normal �down there� very quickly.

I dreaded the thought of my first bowel movement after too but just ate loads of fruit and drank loads of water to help things and it wasn�t that bad at all (although, TMI ALERT it was really big!! confused)

Mcnorton Mon 16-Jun-14 14:30:49

I had ventouse and episiotomy because son, despite arriving v quick, got stuck with his arm up at the last minute. Although my bruising and stitches healed surprisingly quickly (well, I was surprised, but I had nothing to compare it to), I wouldn't want to repeat it as it was unpleasant to say the least. Obviously my experience isn't universal though!
Son was very squished/bruised round the head afterwards, and seemed to have headaches on one side of his head as a result of the ventouse (he would only feed on one side until we tried cranial osteopathy - probably a coincidence but the feeding issues resolved after that). But the main thing is the outcome, and we're both fine now!
Good luck.

CuppaSarah Mon 16-Jun-14 14:34:14

I had a vontouse delivery. It was absolutely fine though, I was meant to get an episiotomy but everything went very quickly in the end and there was no time. I had a 2nd degree tear which hurt a bit for a few weeks, but other than when I needed a wee it was fine. The entire process was very calm and actually a fantastic experience. I didn't plan on an assisted delivery funnily enough, but I really quite enjoyed my birthing process. Forceps scare me more than a csec though.

TractorTedMum Mon 16-Jun-14 14:40:48

Exactly the same as Lones80 first delivery was a forceps job, yes I was sore but didn't know any difference. I went onto have 3 more natural deliveries without any issues. Dc1 did look a bit battered for about 24 hours but he was fine and had no ill effects from coming into the world with a wee b it of help. Infact I could do with a forceps most mornings to drag him out of bed wink

GobbolinoCat Mon 16-Jun-14 14:41:20

The downside for me was that I don't think I bonded as quickly as I did with DC1, who had been delivered vaginally. It just felt a bit odd to not have pushed her out myself

I bonded far better with DC2 because I had a section, I was mentally and emotionally and physically more able to concentrate on baby. I feel I bonded far better because I had such a great birth. We also got BF immediately. I love them both the same though and do not feel any differently about either of them in spite of their different entrances into the world

TreadSoftlyOnMyDreams Mon 16-Jun-14 14:41:23

I had a non emergency CS with DC1, then vbac with forceps for DC2. No episiotomy for the forceps only some "minor internal tears" [saw from my notes 2nd degree] but my DC2 was 3 weeks early and only 6lbs 6oz. Recovery from the vbac was 6-8 weeks longer than a c-section.
In my experience if a medical professional is recommending/suggesting a CS then take it with both hands. Far more likely to be suggesting anything else first.

HazleNutt Mon 16-Jun-14 14:41:29

I had ventouse and no trauma, no episiotomy, only a few small stitches. No pain, slight discomfort only for a few days, that's it. Certainly much faster recovery than a couple of friends with EMCS or ELSC. Baby fine as well. Was terrified of it before, but certainly not worried if I need to have ventouse again.

jessiemummy28 Mon 16-Jun-14 14:43:53

I had ventouse with my DD, 7 months ago as her heart rate kept dropping. She was my first so nothing to compare it to at all, but it was absolutely fine for me. I had a second degree tear but was barely even sore after and healed extremely quickly. I guess there's no answer as everyone is different but it was a million times preferable to a c-section for me. As far as I know my recovery was no different to anyone who had a completely natural birth. Oh and I didn't have an epidural, just gas and air.

VelvetStrider Mon 16-Jun-14 14:49:44

Wow, a whole thread about forceps and nobody has mentioned there are different types - from ones that just help with the last part of delivery when needed to the much dreaded 'Keillands' high cavity forceps which I understand are banned in certain countries.

Often it isn't a simple choice of 'cs or forceps' anyway. If a baby is stuck halfway down the birth canal then it will be safer and far less traumatic to help him out with mid-cavity forceps rather than performing a cs and having to hoik his head back up through the cervix.

jessiemummy28 Mon 16-Jun-14 14:49:45

Also, DD had no ill effects at all from the ventouse, no bruising and no marks on her head!

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