To think that soaps *Corrie*, don't really help the cause-DV

(51 Posts)
sparklyjumper Wed 23-Jan-13 20:21:41

I know it's not real, not everyone watches/believes. But a lot of people do believe these storylines come from real life, are some quite damaging?

The recent Kirsty/Tyrone storyline. Ok so take a real issue, DV against men, then go totally over the top and abusive women pretends to be the victim resulting in abused man being arrested and baby being removed by SS.

A few years ago the Tracey Barlow storyline where she faked DV to kill her boyfriend because he'd cheated on her.

Isn't there always enough of a problem with women not being believed/being afraid to report? Isn't there already enough speculation and media attention on women apparently making up DV as a spiteful tactic to use their children as a weapon?

Wouldn't mind so much if there was a disclaimer at the end stating that it is purely mindless weekday drivel, but they actually claim to be raising awareness of real issues, and people actually believe this shit.

Sallyingforth Wed 23-Jan-13 20:27:01

<yawn>
It's not meant to be educational.

nefertarii Wed 23-Jan-13 20:52:28

You want a disclaimer saying its not real?

HugeLaurie Wed 23-Jan-13 20:53:18

I think that a better idea would have been to show her pushing him down the stairs and that she was then arrested. Why do soaps have to twist and turn storylines all of the time. The three examples I can think of in Corrie were dealt with in a ridiculous way.

1. Alan Bradley - Killed by a tram.
2. Tracey Barlow - as you have mentioned. Tracy lied about being abused.
3. Tyrone has now been arrested because Kirsty has lied.

Oh and in Eastenders Trevor was killed in a fire and in Brookside Trevor Jordache was buried under the patio.

In the real world either it doesn't get reported at all, the victim is killed, the abuser is arrested and let out after a couple of hours or, in my case, he was arrested (after threatening to put a bullet in my head) and then bailed without the police telling me he was out.

Yes, it's just a soap. But soaps are very popular and this story line could have been used to educate people about DV.

shesariver Wed 23-Jan-13 20:54:43

YABU. Men are victims as you acknowledged so why cant women be manipulative. Or do women have to be portrayed as saints hmm

sparklyjumper Wed 23-Jan-13 20:56:55

But, you only have to listen to office chat to realise that people actually watch these things and actually believe it's based on true life.

The same way as DM and The Sun are damaging, the same way people believe what they read in gossip magazines.

NippyDrips Wed 23-Jan-13 20:57:27

I agree, I would have preferred tyrone to report Kirsty, her be convicted and Tyrone get Ruby. Or Ty escape to a shelter or something more realistic, to show people what help and support is available.

AuntieStella Wed 23-Jan-13 20:59:09

The problem with the storyline is the over-ebbing of the denouement.

The portrayal of Kirsty (including the references to childhood abuse) and the insidious creeping of DV into the relationship with Tyrone did show her as flawed, manipulative and increasingly dangerous. He potential danger to stunt was chillingly alluded too as well.

Then it all turned into pantomime; probably around the time when Tyrone began his affair.

sparklyjumper Wed 23-Jan-13 20:59:45

Exactly Nippy and HugeLaurie.

Shesariver, not I don't expect women to be portrayed as saints. But to me it's similiar to the way certain popular newpapers almost daily print stories of 'false' rape accusations and use headlines like 'she cried rape'. But mention nothing of all the rapes which go unreported and unconvicted.

AuntieStella Wed 23-Jan-13 21:00:06

"over-egging" (DYAC)

AuntieStella Wed 23-Jan-13 21:00:46

And "stunt" should say "Ruby"

BertieBotts Wed 23-Jan-13 21:01:41

The Little Mo storyline a few years ago on Eastenders was fantastic for DV awareness IIRC. And Coronation Street handled Maria's rape storyline very well recently too. So it's not all bad.

WhoWhatWhereWhen Wed 23-Jan-13 21:02:04

The story shows the man not being believed by anyone who hasn't seen the bruises, ime that is very accurate

AuntieStella Wed 23-Jan-13 21:08:29

Maria wasn't raped. You mean Carla.

shesariver Wed 23-Jan-13 21:22:33

I think it is more about the man not being believed at the moment as whowhat has said, which is generally true.

HugeLaurie Wed 23-Jan-13 21:24:12

Didn't Carla's rapist get off? And get killed afterwards? Yet again, the woman in this soap land scenario is portrayed as a liar.

HollyBerryBush Wed 23-Jan-13 21:29:49

The Wilmott Brown rape story line did marvels for woemn, being believed and being able to go to court and know they will be believed.

Soaps are supposed to reflect real life, or portray it - there have been some stunning storylines that people can/have identified with. Be it death, birth, cot death, kidnap, conmen/women, murder - DV is no differenet. I dare say some men out htere will identify with it because they are men in the same situation. Some women (and men I suppose) will poo-hoo it because they don't think it believeable. Little known subjects should be brought to the fore.

Having a male friend in a male DV situation, I'm well aware of the devious lengths his wife went to. You only have to read the Relationships board, there was one the other week where a woman attacked her husband (and posted about it) and because she was sober and he was merry, she called the police and had him arrested - it was a god awful thread - one where you just knew the woman was a psychotic schemer, abuser, controller. And she admitted it too. And it wasn't a spoof.

NippyDrips Wed 23-Jan-13 21:29:51

I think t is send out the message to victims of dv, especially men that there is no help out there so what is the point in trying to change it.

I agree it started in a good and realistic way but this outcome is just damaging and making a farce of it. Hopefully they will see sense and sort it out.

It's very interesting. My DP went through similar.his Ex W is very controlling and manipulative. The last time she assaulted him verbally and physically she rang the police claiming to be a victim of DV. He had the whole incident recorded on his iPhone. It's very scary and violent.although she later got arrested too she wasn't charged. I truely believe if a man did to a woman what she did to him they'd have been up before a court. she would ring up DV advice lines etc.. Claiming to be a victim. He's been given no support.

SigmundFraude Wed 23-Jan-13 21:35:53

'Or Ty escape to a shelter or something more realistic, to show people what help and support is available.'

He'd be lucky, there is next to no support available for men. Unfortunately, female on male DV is dismissed, despite being common....treated as a joke or not believed. You only have to read some comments on here to see that.

Binfullofresolutionsfor10thjan Wed 23-Jan-13 21:55:50

We have a family friend who is going through dv with his partner. He has been to a lawyer in this country, and they have told him to marry his partner to gain equal rights in custody of the children. It isn't as far fetched as you'd think.

He turned up at our door with his 2 ds one night because she'd gotten violent with him and he didn't want the kids to be left there as she was very drunk. She was threatening to call the police and say he/we'd kidnapped the boys. He is really trapped and she is refusing to admit that she needs help. It's very sad for all involved.

NippyDrips Wed 23-Jan-13 22:35:53

That is really depressing. It's so wrong that men have no support.

I hope they have a happy outcome for Tyrone though or it is just reinforcing that there is no point in reporting etc.

I've only just started watching Corrie for this very reason. Kirsty is a very accurate portrail IME of how women can be so very evil..... Obviously my DH has never abducted my DSS but there are times when you think...would they be any worse off for actually doing that...

Five years, false accusations, £20k solicitors costs. Now we are getting somewhere where we should be.

I can't believe the only up to date threads from the advanced searce I've found about this are: this one and the one (albeit confused one) I started last week.

Hmmm.

Would appreciate back up from those in the same situation.

squeakytoy Thu 14-Feb-13 01:31:55

I think it has been portrayed very accurately in that many if not almost all men would be very reluctant to admit to anyone what has been going on.

sparklyjumper Thu 14-Feb-13 07:35:00

Actually I think most people here have entirely missed the point I was trying to make. And my point was that actually I don't believe that most women lie. They should just throw in a good old false rape accusation for good measure.

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